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The Santee Revolt: Escalation – UPDATED

Santee parents and students demonstrate
As I wrote yesterday, last week, parents and students demonstrated at Santee Education Complex after principal Vincent Carbino made weird and unannounced mid-semester changes in the subject matter of more than 30 classes, wreaking havoc with students’ schedules, and in some case, disrupting graduation and college plans. This week it appears that matters on campus are continuing to escalate.

For instance, at a campus meeting on Monday afternoon
Santee students read a letter requesting for the resignation of principal Vince Carbino.

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Yet, while the Santee’s students and their parents continue to be upset,
the school’s teachers are, if anything, are far, far angrier. And the faculty anger appears to be directed equally at Carbino and at LAUSD administrators whom they feel have turned a deaf ear to their escalating alarm regarding the school’s leadership.

On Monday, after the students made their presentation, a group of faculty members stayed to talk about some of their grievances against a principal whom they say gets his way through a combination of threats, bullying, withering public criticism of anyone who disagrees, and various forms of “harassment. “For instance, if he doesn’t like you, he’ll order regular police searches of your classroom,” says Jose Lara, a social studies instructor.

“So what’s happened is all the good teachers are leaving,”
says Brent Boultinghouse, a bearded, genial-faced culinary arts teacher, who is also the school’s union rep. “Santee is hemorrhaging teachers. All because of Carbino.”

Jose Lara,
explains that the district went so far as to send two full time “coaches” to the school to work with the principal. “But he won’t listen to them,” he says. “He won’t listen to anybody.”

The school’s English Department Chair, Gina Perry, agrees and then confides in a low voice that she’s reinstating some of the AP classes whether the principal likes it or not. “Sometimes you just do what you got to do,” she says. “It’s what the kids need.”

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Both Santee teachers and UTLA leadership contend that the reason that principal Carbino canceled or changed the various classes, including the 12 AP classes, was in reaction to a landmark court settlement called Williams v. the State of California. The 2000 case was a class action suit that contended that kids in the state’s poorest were being denied the right to an equal education because they didn’t have the same access to books, adequately trained teachers, and safe and clean school facilities, as those students in affluent areas.

In settling the lawsuit, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger agreed to pour $1 billion into schools with test scores in the bottom 30 percent — most of them schools whose students overwhelmingly live in poverty.

The settlement also created a system of annual checks, sending education officials into classrooms each fall to see if every student has a book and is learning in a safe school building. Those checks — and the money to buy textbooks and make repairs — have led to tangible improvements in low-performing schools, says the study commissioned by lawyers who filed the Williams suit.

Right before the change, say teachers, Santee was due for its annual Williams inspection.

“There’s no reason he shouldn’t have been able to get the textbooks,” says Dori Miles, the UTLA rep for LAUSD Local District, who met with Santee faculty members again on Monday. “But even if there was a problem, if he had just talked to the teachers and the parents about the issue, some kind of creative accommodation could have been made. That’s what good administrators do.”

Instead Carbino made the course changes unilaterally, says Miles, then left teachers and students to scramble to deal with the results. This meant that in many cases students found themselves suddenly stuck in courses that they’d already taken and passed, meaning that they would be a course short at graduation.

It also meant that teachers who say they’d spent weeks “preparing course outlines, lesson plans, and instructional goals” (as one teacher said in an unhappy letter), were expected to teach a course for which they had made no preparation.

In the case of the AP instructors who, for each course, had been required to get a detailed syllabus approved by the state’s college board in order to qualify for AP status, the change was particularly infuriating.

Yet even months before the course changes, in response to a year’s worth of escalating complaints, the union asked Santee faculty members to fill out a survey indicating if they approved or disapproved of the way Carbino was doing his job as principal. The results indicated that 9.5 % approved, 17.5 % were unsure, 73 % disapproved.

On August 9, the union sent an 8-page letter with nearly 50 pages of back-up material, to LAUSD’s local district superintendent, Carmen Schroeder, about “a matter of great urgency.” The letter talked about “verbally abusing students and staff” and “creating an education environment “characterized by hostility, fear and intimidation.” Mr. Carbino’s poor administrative judgment was “shattering” teacher morale, and “denying students access to a free and adequate” public education, ” said the letter.


It concluded: “…We urge you to immediately appoint
a new complex wide principal.” The letter is signed by UTLA President A.J. Duffy.

Thus far, there has been no official response.

“Except Carmen Schroeder came to the school and asked me if I could get the students and the parents to stop their demonstrations,” says Boultinghouse. “I told her ‘no.’ I couldn’t.”
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The teachers say that if the union can’t push the district into taking firm action to remove the principal, the faculty is likely to take matters into their own hands.


“We’re looking at the idea
of turning this school into a charter,” says Boultinghouse.

Lara nods. “Frankly, we’ve had conversations with Steve Barr and Green Dot.”

38 Comments

  • Celeste, what’s up with these changes in courses? Do you have a sense of what is underneath those decisions? This strikes me as the craziest part of the whole deal. While it sort of makes sense that if the textbooks aren’t available, you might think you had to adapt … but, a textbook is supplemental to a course. A course could be taught without a textbook. And, why would a principal drop AP classes? Or, is he dropping the AP designation for the classes? And, how can the departments simply reinstate them? Jerking around a curriculum and jerking around student’s registered courses, strikes me as one of the riskiest things an administrator could do. There just has to be more to this. Something about this whole deal just feels off. Way off.

  • My son had a history teacher last year (a great one!) who tossed the textbooks and taught from notes and articles that he had chosen to be the best over his years and covering the subject matter, and he provided copies of that material to the students. It was nice that my son learned to analyze real history rather than be able to regurgitate political correct history from textbooks written to appease the California textbook committee, the biggest textbook customer.

    In a previous class, my son’s textbook had only two paragraphs on World War II–no kidding, but it dedicated a full page color picture to Maya Angelou, one of the worst poets in my lifetime.

    There is a funny story written by Dick Feynman about being on the California textbook committee. Every member was to review books submitted by the textbook publishers and to give them scores. He reviewed every book and found that one was completely blank. It turned out that the publisher could not get that book finished in time, so it just provided an empty book which would be replaced later. What’s great is that most members of the textbook committee approved the book without even knowing that it was nothing but blank pages. A lot of good that they did.

    Anyway, classes can be taught without everyone having a text if the teacher knows his subject. In fact, the classes could be better taught given the textbooks of today.

  • What would have happened if he were in private industry. Well if he was PPresident of Ford he would have received a Bonus of 12 million while Ford was setting a record for the largest yearly loss in history. And if he ran Harken Energy into the ground and escaped SEC charges due to daddy’s help he’d get to be President.

  • From my perspective, I know that LAUSD High Schools all have a yearly budget to meet and can only allocate funds to a specific department, activity, or future outstanding cost. The principal of every high school has to figure out what’s more important for their specific school – football uniforms, a new drum set for the music department, new vials for the chemistry class, getting the grass cut, or buying new textbooks. This is why most LAUSD high schools are deteriorating and falling apart. NO MONEY! If the school has no private contributions, then they are basically down to the zero dollar at the end of the school year. Every LAUSD principal has this yearly headache which I believe is how he/she is rated on job performance by the big wigs (but they will rarely admit to it).
    The high schools in nice upper class areas, the parents are better off and will fork out some extra cash to assist the local High School burdens, creating a yearly positive dividend. These schools can buy books every two to three years if needed. In low income High Schools, there is no money unless some generous multi-million dollar corporation or person drops a nice chunk of ching-ching change. These high schools are always in the red. If a high school even gets close to the yearly prespective cost and meets the yearly budget, you win a little shinning star on your forehead. If you are thounsands of dollars off, your going to get freeway therapy or sent to Jordan High, Jefferson High, or Fremont.
    Now, i’m sitting on this side of the computer and can see what is going on with this guy. He is not going to buy the books and you can count on that. His biggest mistake was not to sit down with the teachers, do a round table brainstrom, and hammer out an alternative plan.
    I bet you guys any money that if a private donor goes over to Santee and tell this jack ass that a donation is being provided to buy these books, Carbino eyes will open up with dollar signs. He will become “MR Yes Man.” YEs…of course Yes, of course….of course…..

  • At a high school such as Santee where their “Academic Performance Index (API) is in the basement at 451 and is ranked at the bottom of LAUSD high schools, I find it a little incredulous that AP courses are required.

    It has become fashionable to offer AP courses at inner city high schools even though these classes are often taught by unqualified teachers to unqualified students who never take the AP tests or if they do take the tests fail them.

    For the 2007-2008 school year, teachers of AP classes are now being asked to submit syllabuses approved by the College Board before they may call their classes AP classes.

    I would be surprised if any of the Santee teachers have had their courses approved by the College Board. Unfortunately the best students at a school like Santee would be considered only average at an OC high school and typically unqualified for AP courses.

    Maybe the principal knows something that we don’t. It would be good to get his side of the story

  • For the 2007-2008 school year, teachers of AP classes are now being asked to submit syllabuses approved by the College Board before they may call their classes AP classes.

    This make some sense yet. Pokey, do you know how the College Board is defining 07-08? I know, it seems obvious… but would this summer term be counted in the 06-07 year, or the 07-08 year. Colleges and universities, for example, do it variously with their summer terms. Do you know what the situation is for Santee?

    And, then how could the Department Chair simply change the designation back?

  • Good comments and questions, Listener and Pokey in particular.

    I was a bit wiped out last night so didn’t explain as fully as perhaps was needed. I hope the updates I’ve just posted do the trick.

    As you’ll see Pokey, the Santee teachers definitely got their syllabi approved by the college board. In fact, a couple of them have forwarded copies to me.

    Yesterday, I was particularly struck by the intelligence and dedication of the teachers a met with. These are smart, very well educated, experienced, impassioned instructors who work their butts off, and really care for Santee’s kids. And they feel completely disregarded, abused, and betrayed.

    Listener, this summer is the 07-08 school year because Santee is on the track system.

  • “…even though these classes are often taught by unqualified teachers to unqualified students who never take the AP tests or if they do take the tests fail them.”

    Pokey, I can’t speak with personal knowledge about every high school in the district, but I can definitely tell you that at Santee and Jefferson—LAUSD’s number two and number one lowest scoring high schools—that is most certainly not the case at all.

  • Pokey, I dont agree with your idea of discriminating against students in low income areas strictly on the basis of test scores. In a public school system, all students, no matter what the demographics are, have the right to obtain the same level of education or opportunity. I dont know if your a conservative, but you guys always seem to forget the basic American principle that you so proudly preach. Its called equality. Now, if your paying for private schooling, you have the right to bitch and cry because you made that choice to pork-out the extra cash. You now have the right to shop for schools. Nevertheless, I dont think the OC public schools districts are any better in certain areas as compare to LAs. But then again, knowing the typical unfounded classic conservative came back, your start to bitch about its due to them being taken over by the illegal aliens – the post-9/11 social panic bullcrap. LA like OC has its good and bad.
    However, I do agree on your last point to a certain degree.
    If your graduating from high school in any major but mathametics, once you reach the university, you are considered an average student. Especially School districts like Compton and LAUSD. Students are totally unprepared and are pumped up to think they are the shit because they got valedictorian at their local High School. However, due to having more numbers coming from these areas like LAUSD, your going to see the numbers higher among this group. Ive seen them come from other areas as well, including parts of Orange County.
    They would either drop out of the University, asked to return to a community college, placed on probation, or just change majors. The majority changed majors and they ended up graduating in some mickey mouse major like film studies or communication (hope I dont offend anyone here on your major).
    I was that very small fortunate percentage that could sit in a class, not take notes, and still walk out at the end with a A- to a B+. The only time you orange county-huntington/newport beach private school snobs wanted to befriend a Mexican, was when you couldn’t figure out how I kicked your asses on the bell curve score. Then everyone wants to be your friend, no matter if your ugly, fat, or a commonly called “wetback.”

  • Celeste, thanks for the updates. Just knew there had to be more to this story… and, I’m guessing there are a few more pieces yet to fall out. I don’t disregard the possibility psychosis could be part of the answer, but this move of Carbino’s was guaranteed to attract the kind of attention no principal wants. So, assuming he’s in this right mind, he should have wanted to avoid what’s happening now.

    Poplock, You gotta write that book. Hell, I’m not sure I wouldn’t offer to write it for you, if you’d dictate it.

    Snippets. I don’t have time to dig out the links to the research, you’ll have to trust that I can – or, not. Up to you.

    Research suggests that (poplock’s Dad might be pleased) there is only a one year post graduation financial advantage for graduating from a school like MIT, Harvard, etc. controlling for all other variables.

    AP courses, even for kids who do not take the exam/pass the exam confers an advantage in college and university settings. No one shure what the mechanism is, but if the kids are exposed to a genuine AP class – the effects are statistically significant.

  • Keep in mind that most High Schools can only provide AP classes to a small number of students. In almost all track schools, AP classes are only given on one track.
    Let me give you guys some inside details on this.
    If your in sports like football and on a track system, your usually placed on track-b, due to only having to qualify once throughout the season on grade point average, unless your team makes it to the playoffs. The next set of grades comes out in the playoff season.
    If you want to be on sports and AP classes, you have to more over to another track, usually A track. In some schools if your well liked, the principal or VP can allow you to do the switch over but its not common.
    So, here is what you kinda get in every High School. One track full of AP kids, the track that the high school loves to treats like royality (the majority are in High School Geek club or school government). B-track – full of sport jocks and C-track – mostly full of the reject kids -taggers, gangsters, & IEP.

  • If I write a book, it would be full of too much hate and anger. I think a movie would be better….
    🙂

  • Who wants to sweep the floors of the Ford Corporation when papa Henry funded the International bigot newspaper in multi-languages around the world supporting Hitler and the Nazi party….

  • Mr. Fremon, why dont you tell all the kids at Santee to walk out of school-back to back for a couple of days. I want to see them on Channel 7 News. After the protest dies down, you can jump them all in a Teen Challenge Van and drop them off at Venice Beach for the rest of the day. But then again, Mayor Viagra is going to jump-in and get a couple of licks for political promotion.

  • Excellent points, Poplock, about the way the tracks work, and about how unprepared even the top-of-the-pile kids at these schools feel when they get to universities. I’ve had heartbreaking stories told to me by kids who have the native talent, but not the education—and they know it. So are frankly, afraid to apply to top colleges because they know they don’t have the chops to compete—even though they’re smart kids.

    Drives me nuts.

  • Under-prepared, Celeste. Not necessarily unprepared. A certain amount of preparation certainly happened. Perhaps, not quite enough. That’s why access to the AP classes – whether they pass the exam or not – is important. It’s in learning how to cope with that academic demand level. Life is full of dress rehearsals. 😉

  • Also, Math, Math, and More Math. Achievement in MATH is crucial. They don’t necessarily need the Calculus – although it’s nice, and easier to learn in a smaller class than the 250 student lectures you can see in some universities. But, there’s an “analytic switch” that gets flipped in math, that’s essential in lots of other places during a successful four year postsecondary education. Courses in formal logic might do an equivalent switch flipping.

  • Yeah, thanks Poplock. If you hadn’t explained those “tracks” this whole issue wouldn’t have made much sense to me. Where I come from “tracks” refers to college prep, and non-college prep academic curricula. Although, from your description, it amounts to the same thing in schools like Santee. Just one additional level of sorting, it seems. College prep plus SES. Ain’t that sweet.

  • One of my student jobs at my Ivy college was working at the “Study Skills Center,” where minority kids who’d been recruited to fill certain quotas/numbers/percentages, whatever you call them — black, Hispanic and American Indian, mainly — were taught the basic skills they should have entered college with. I had to read simple stories, and make up multiple-choice test questions, an essay q at the end, and grade and discuss it. There cookie-cutter things, too, but the school tried to tailer the subject to the students. But it was at a level geared for a bright 7th- grader. With even prep-school and smart kids from good schools crying over the first B’s and even C’s they’d ever gotten in their lives, no way were many minorities prepared.

    What’s a disgrace is that in an effort to meet well-intended minority balance/ quotas, whatever, many of these kids were set up to fail, and qualified kids denied entry. Look what happened at UCLA with black (and Hispanic) enrollment when affirmative action was cut out (now reinstituted under a different name).

    By the way, most ethnic kids chose black/Hispanic studies programs, and social studies and other liberally- taught classes (which often reaffirm their sense of “injustice.”)

    The solution is solid preparation in and before high school.
    Which the kids at Santee and elsewhere are not getting.

  • Many elementary schools run on a 4-track system. What is sad is that you can almost go through an entire 3-4 years of high school or jr. high school and not know everyone in your graduating class….
    When you go back to a high school reunion, your still meeting people you never knew existed.

  • “….the right to obtain the same level of education or opportunity.”

    Certainly agree with you on your point about equal opportunity, all kids deserve GREAT classes, but I am comparing Santee (API score of 451) to MY local public high schools which have API scores of 805 & 924 for 2006 where 90%+ of the kids continue on to college. (see links below)

    http://tinyurl.com/2mjqmr Santee
    http://tinyurl.com/3c3vy4 Troy
    http://tinyurl.com/3alcog Sunny Hills

    I think it is great that these are AP courses at Santee, but I suspect that they do not measure up to true college courses. The college boards are getting wise to AP course inflation and many people have complained that the content and rigor of AP courses can vary widely from one high school to the next. These courses are often offered so students can get the bump in grade point average.

    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05223/552396.stm Standards tighten for AP courses

    Note: my God daughter is a college junior and also Hispanic.

  • Affirmative Action admissions are alive and well at UC. If they weren’t you’d never see a white student at Berkeley or UCLA. As it is the local joke down here is that UCI stands for “University of Chinese Immigrants.” Funny I never hear complaints about less qualified white kids getting in over an Asian with perfect SATs and straight As.

    Oh, and I speak as an Afffirmative Action Baby. The same one that got Shrub into Yale. Legacy preference. Sure as hell didn’t get in with my GPA or SAT score.

  • Poplock, look at the bright side of meeting people you never knew at a supposed reunion: you can present yourself any way you want. Me, I don’t go to reunions at all, because they’re so depressing — everyone looks so old, so I’d rather go to events based on topic or interest, instead. You might have more in common with someone 20 years younger (or older, older people are often terrific to be around and funny.) Reinvent yourself! You don’t have to be tied to or limited by your past. As you know, people come here from the east or midwest just to be free of their “old” selves!

  • Poplock, I vote Spike Lee to do your story. He might be the only one who has the creds to do it. I suggest in your free time (right) you sketch out a script and kick it to him. One just never knows.

  • Alternately, Poplock (now that we’re all acting as your agents and literary advisors), you could fictionalize your story in a terrific crime novel series in which the hero has a complex and slightly checkered past and we see his unresolved anger creep out at crucial moments.

    And THEN sell the novel(s) to the movies. (Hey, most of my favorite mystery writers seem to employ some variation on this theme—James Lee Burke, George Pelecanos, Walter Mosley…Michael Connelly…)

  • Wow, your the first to called it “unresolved anger.”

    When I got my admissions paperwork from the the University, it said, “special action” on the top right hand corner. When I got my financial aid paperwork (loan agreements), it said “specal action” on the top right hand corner. When I got my housing paperwork and meal plan applications everything said “special action” on the top right on corners. Everywhere I went, people looked at me funny and stated, “I’ve never seen this before, this special action thing.”
    When I ran out of money and my gas & lights got cut off, I walked over to the EOP building seeking a counselor for extra financial assistance. They tried their best to help me out but were limited to a $1,500 emergency loan. After reviewing my admission paperwork and loan information via computer, all the latino and black counselors huddled together and kept saying, “wow” – “wow” ..”wow”
    Finally, one of them looked over at me and said, “you a real walking affirmative action and probably the last.”

    According to them, Affirmative Action was only used by the UC schools on special circumstances. Almost all minorities students are admitted on their own merits and under the regular admissions process. Seats are reserved yearly for certain number of minority groups that can qualify on the normal admission process and held until they are fulfilled or not. Again to emphasize, these seats were not connected in anyway to the Affirmative Action program. Today, those seats are still held for various minorities groups that qualify under the normal applicantion process. If they are not filled, they just get thrown back into the general pot.
    Affirmative Action is only used on special circumstances and everyone knows you got in via Affirmative Action. Its stamped and written all over your freaking paperwork. So, to cut this short, the counselors stated that I was not taking a seat from a possible applicant but that the UC was actually creating an extra seat for me. According to the counselor, this “action” is tracked and monitored closely by the UC regents and in Sacramento. You just dont give out an Affimative Action spot like its a tootsie roll.

  • Richard brought up a good point. Since the death of Affirmative Action, I can argue excellent points on how it backfired on the conservative 187 supporters. But who cares, Asians will be all your bosses CEO in a couple of years.

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    Ms Fremon
    Why do I want to fictionalize when I got good arrest stories?

  • Poplock, by “unresolved anger” I wasn’t talking about you the person, I was now busily imagining you-the-fictional-character. (Also, I was, in part, responding to your comment—something about not being able to write about certain things yet because you were still too angry. This is a condition that, trust me, I fully understand on a most personal basis regarding to one or two things in my own checkered past.)

    About fictionalizing your good arrest stories, well, somebody’s got to give Michael Connelly some competition. And there are a lot of literary folk who believe the best way to get to the deepest truths is through the vehicle of good “fiction”—i.e. fact disguised as fiction. (But I write nonfiction, so what do I know?)

  • Actually I can write about anything related to me, the problem is that I cant be on this computer typing my life away. My wife wants to hide my laptop.
    While your investigating the Santee school thing, I’m over here looking at a couple of supremist white guys on a hate crime.
    If I start to write, its like endless…..

  • Poplock my father had the same difficulty by the way. His father saw no need for education so dad worked a few years in a foundry and then went off to Bowdoin. I think most immigrants felt that way. He was nine months old when he went thru Ellis Island.

  • Celeste: Posted tonight in Metroblogging L A, there will be a press conference tomorrow at Crenshaw High School to announce something important but no details given, exc. that A J Duffy, UTLA head, will be there. This is one of the Mayor’s special interest schools, selected for his TLC, and one of the lowest performers — along with Santee, I take it. Crenshaw only got a one-yr acceditation vs. the usual 3, very marginal. You might want to check out what’s up tomorrow. Boy, the battle of the low-performers is ON!

  • Low-performing schools got extra money under the Williams settlement to buy textbooks. Most schools did so, according to a ACLU report that just came out.

    Also, remember the principal didn’t change AP History to regular History. He changed it to “Cinema.” That’s not about quality.

    Any school, however awful, has some students who are motivated and capable. They deserve a chance to learn academic subjects.

  • POKEY said:

    “It has become fashionable to offer AP courses at inner city high schools even though these classes are often taught by unqualified teachers to unqualified students who never take the AP tests or if they do take the tests fail them.”

    AND

    “I would be surprised if any of the Santee teachers have had their courses approved by the College Board. Unfortunately the best students at a school like Santee would be considered only average at an OC high school and typically unqualified for AP courses.

    Maybe the principal knows something that we don’t. It would be good to get his side of the story”

    I teach at SANTEE and both of my courses were APPROVED by the College Board. Unqualified, well ok, what are POKEY’s qualifications? (in anything). How many inner city students has he/she gotten to pass an AP test. Last year, 2007, I had 3 pass with 3’s and 7 get 2’s and many more got 1’s. So yeah I’m no Jaime Escalante but I’m doing my best and it gives me great pleasure to know my students who passed their AP exams took the same test that kids at SAN MARINO HS or NEWPORT HARBOR HS, who have parent thats pay for tutors and have BMW’s to drive to school! So yes I know many people say why bother trying, but we either believe in equal opportunity or we don’t. I understand taxpayer frustration at how much is spent with so little return (kids who can’t read or compute by the time of their HS graduation)and the Public Educational system has serious problems and needs reforming but there are kids here who have real talent and they deserve a chance. They may need an extra boost to give them a shot at the American Dream. Does the principal know something we don’t, come work for him and find out for yourself, he’s a lemon!

  • I worked with mr carbino 12 years ago–and he hasn’t changed. he was just as controlling and divisive then as he is now. he was a liar, too! someone checked up on his statement that he was a police officer–and nobody could find any record of him ever being a cop. what amazes me is that this district keeps passing him on!

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