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Frank Rich, Barack Obama…. & Reading the National Wind

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Every now and again Frank Rich writes a column
in which he articulates a national psychological turning point, and does so just a beat or two before anyone else has managed to put the thing into words, although the sense of the wind-change is already widespread and palpable.

A past instance that comes to mind is the column he wrote in August of 2005 when Cindy Sheehan refused to leave Crawford, Texas, until President Bush came out to talk to her. Rich noted that during Sheehan’s campout protest, something in the American psyche clicked into a different gear with regard to the Iraq war. Bush didn’t talk to Sheehan. Sheehan (and the road show that surrounded her) eventually left Texas and, for a time, became something of a caricature.

But that wasn’t the point. At issue, was the shift in the national mood about Bush’s invasion of Iraq. Rich correctly sensed a new border had been crossed during the weekend that the president ignored the grieving mother. Perfectly expressed or not, Sheehan’s anguish became the final and fateful trigger for an American mental/emotional sea change that had been a long time coming.

This Sunday’s column about the building rage among average Americans is another one of those zeitgeist-flagging moments. It should not be ignored. Yes, there is real hope running through the American psyche right now. But, as Rich notes, there is also a very potent fury abroad in the land….and it is growing:

Here’s how the piece begins:

SOMEDAY historians may look back at Tom Daschle’s flameout as a minor one-car (and chauffeur) accident. But that will depend on whether or not it’s followed by a multi-vehicle pileup that still could come. Even as President Obama refreshingly took responsibility for having “screwed up,” it’s not clear that he fully understands the huge forces that hit his young administration last week.

The tsunami of populist rage coursing through America is bigger than Daschle’s overdue tax bill, bigger than John Thain’s trash can, bigger than any bailed-out C.E.O.’s bonus. It’s even bigger than the Obama phenomenon itself. It could maim the president’s best-laid plans and what remains of our economy if he doesn’t get in front of the mounting public anger.

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Obama’s brilliant appointees, we keep being told, are irreplaceable. But as de Gaulle said, “The cemeteries of the world are full of indispensable men.” You have to wonder if this team is really a meritocracy or merely a stacked deck. Not only did Rubin himself serve on the Obama economic transition team, but two of the transition’s headhunters were Michael Froman, Rubin’s chief of staff at Treasury and later a Citigroup executive, and James S. Rubin, an investor who is Robert Rubin’s son.

A welcome outlier to this club is Paul Volcker, the former Federal Reserve chairman chosen to direct Obama’s Economic Recovery Advisory Board. But Bloomberg reported last week that Summers is already freezing Volcker out of many of his deliberations on economic policy. This sounds like the arrogant Summers who was fired as president of Harvard, not the chastened new Summers advertised at the time of his appointment. A team of rivals is not his thing.

Americans have had enough of such arrogance, whether in the public or private sectors, whether Democrat or Republican. Voters turned on Sarah Palin not just because of her manifest unfitness for office but because her claims of being a regular hockey mom were contradicted by her Evita shopping sprees. John McCain’s sanctification of Joe the Plumber (himself a tax delinquent) never could be squared with his inability to remember how many houses he owned. A graphic act of entitlement also stripped naked that faux populist John Edwards.

The public’s revulsion isn’t mindless class hatred. As Obama said on Wednesday of his fellow citizens: “We don’t disparage wealth. We don’t begrudge anybody for achieving success.” But we do know that the system has been fixed for too long. The gaping income inequality of the past decade — the top 1 percent of America’s earners received more than 20 percent of the total national income — has not been seen since the run-up to the Great Depression.

This is why “Slumdog Millionaire,” which pits a hard-working young man in Mumbai against a corrupt nexus of money and privilege, has become America’s movie of the year. As Robert Reich, the former Clinton labor secretary, wrote after Daschle’s fall, Americans “resent people who appear to be living high off a system dominated by insiders with the right connections.”

Average Americans—both Republicans and Democrats— are no longer content to take the word of the economic “geniuses,” and the trust-us-we-know-what’s-good-for-you pols who have gotten the country into the worst mess of our lifetimes—and then, in the name of fixing things, seem to have acted only in the best interest of themselves and their corporate cronies.

Even those without PhDs in economics have suddenly awakened to the fact that they can do the math. They—we—have done it, and are appalled at what we have discovered has been done in our name…and with our money.

If Americans sense more of the same inside-the-all-knowning-bubble crap coming from Obama’s administration, it will not be pretty.

Let’s hope Barack Obama is taking note of the wind-change too. Our country’s health and well-being truly depends upon it.

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P.S. The scribbling on the photo above is meant to be metaphorical so please don’t send me messages about what I do or don’t know about real poverty as opposed to middle class discomfort. I get it.

41 Comments

  • Rich’s column today was one of the most brilliant, on the money, and chilling columns I’ve had the pleasure of reading in quite a while.

    And although I’m pulling for President Obama’s success as a President, and want the economy to turn around, and am pissed at the Republican obstructionists who seem to be nothing but apologists for the totally failed supply side economic policy’s of the Robber Baron Bush regime, I, like many, including it seems Frank Rich, am confused at Obama’s economic team for it’s resuscitation attempts at restoring the failed and melted down monopoly capitalist system of economics that has obviously run it’s course.

    Where does it say it our country’s constitution that monopoly capitalism is a sacred cow that must be saved at all cost’s?
    We are starting to resemble the bankrupt Soviet Union as it fell apart like some condemned building mined with explosives.

    Maybe Obama and his crew need to concentrate more on building a totally new economic model that works, instead of re-hydrating the dried up corpse of supply side economics and monopoly capitalism.

    But as Rich so deftly points out in his column today, the same cast of characters who are so closely tied to the bankrupt financial institutions that got us where we are now now hold the reigns to what seems a dead horse. Why continue beating it?

    Rich; on Secretary of the Treasury “Timothy Geithner”,

    “But he still has not satisfactorily explained why, as president of the New York Fed, he failed in his oversight of the teetering Wall Street institutions. Nor has he told us why, in his first major move in his new job, he secured a waiver from Obama to hire a Goldman Sachs lobbyist as his chief of staff. Nor, in his confirmation hearings, did he prove any more credible than the Bush Treasury secretary, the Goldman Sachs alumnus Hank Paulson, in explaining why Lehman Brothers was allowed to fail while A.I.G. and Citigroup were spared.”

    More of the same old, same old?

  • Obama’s in way, way, way over his head. But, nooooooo. No one listened to me during the campaign.

    Everything that Obama knows about economics fits on the screen of a teleprompter. Yet, he wants us to beleive that he knows how to properly spend $1 trillion after a week and that we better hurry and accept it now.

    The consequences of doing the wrong thing are far greater than the consequences of taking additional time to do the right things.

  • Yes, Rich, finally, has noticed the obvious. People are scared and they are angry and they are disgusted. Duh! And, shockingly perhaps to Rich, the mere appearance of the Obamessiah is not sufficient to quiet them.

    People are really fed up. And when people get fed up, mob psychology can lead to terrible results.

    Obama has squandered the great good will he was provided, and blown the possibility of a very good start by hypocritically appointing one flawed appointee after another – in direct violation of his campaign theme and promises.

    He campaigned on healing the wounds and immediately dissed the Republicans in Congress – during a critical time for the economy.

    He has failed to bring Congress under control, resulting in the worst spending bill in the US history – created by the unfettered trough feeding of Democrat porkers in Congress.

    People are angry. They are angry at Congress. They are angry at greedy executives. They are angry at real and perceived hypocrisy. If Obama doesn’t catch on (not to Rich’s ideas, but to how to govern), they are going to get mad at him.

    Personally, I am saddened, disappointed and scared.

    I hope we can chalk this up to inexperience on Obama’s part – which is certainly a possibility – rather than a fatal inability to govern, or worse, an acceptance of hypocrisy in n(or blindness to) his own actions and gross political greed by the Democrat Congress.

    Obama is either:

    Able but inexperienced;Unable;
    Unwilling;
    Too narcissistic to know is how failings

    To do what is necessary.

    Dr. Victor Davis Hansen, a scholar and commentator, has already written his observations. They are worth reading. I hope he is wrong, but he rarely is.

    …… Rich, of course, manages to insert is own idiocies…

    He manages to slip into total inanity with his comment on Palin’s “false” hockey-mom image. But then, this is the NY Times, which was part of creating that slander.

    He also apparently doesn’t have a clue about the role of tax cuts vs spending in a stimulus vs other economic policy.

  • Dr. Victor Davis Hansen ?

    I’m laughing my ass off. The guy’s a second-rate classics sholar.

    Meanwhile, according to Politicl: “the traditionally Republican-leaning business lobby is beginning to exert itself more as well.

    “In announcing his support Friday night, Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) pointedly read from a Chamber of Commerce endorsement. The National Association of Manufacturers has also weighed in, telling Republicans that votes on the bill “including potential procedural motions” may be considered for designation as key votes in NAM’s scoring of their legislative record. ”

    The rightwing has gone crazy. Good !!! More from Hansen. More Palin. More “economic experts” from the Ayn Rand Book Club – I mean, the Cato Institute.
    Go crawl in your ideological holes. I’m loving it.

  • “rarely wrong”

    http://www.antiwar.com/orig/jtaylor.php?articleid=11557

    http://www.reason.com/news/show/28368.html

    “rarely wrong?” – “not even wrong” perhaps…which leads one to conclude Hanson, who fell in love with Sarah Paliin during the campaign and continually asserted she was more experienced, more competent and more intelligent than President Obama, is merely crazy. Taking advice on the stimulus bill from Hansen is arguably a cut below taking one’s crazed, partisan talking points from Rush Limbaugh.

  • Obama is so inept at management that it’s sad for this nation. At least Gov. Palin has executive experience.

    Here’s more about this great bill that Obama says that we have to pass immediately or America will NEVER recover. Bull—-!

    Stop The Stimulus Bill (Not my site.)

    They insist that our nation simply cannot make it through the current financial crisis without all these things:

    $2 billion earmark to re-start FutureGen, a near-zero emissions coal power plant in Illinois that the Department of Energy defunded last year because it said the project was inefficient.

    $246 million in tax breaks for Hollywood movie producers to buy motion picture film.

    $650 million for the digital television converter box coupon program.

    $448 million for constructing the Department of Homeland Security headquarters.

    $248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters.

    $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees.

    $400 million for the Centers for Disease Control to screen and prevent STD’s.

    $1.4 billion for rural waste disposal programs.

    $125 million for the Washington sewer system.

    $150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities.

    $1 billion for the 2010 Census, which has a projected cost overrun of $3 billion.

    $75 million for “smoking cessation activities.”

    $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges.

    $25 million for tribal alcohol and substance abuse reduction.

    $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas.

    $6 billion to turn federal buildings into “green” buildings.

    $500 million for state and local fire stations.

    $650 million for wildland fire management on forest service lands.

    $1.2 billion for “youth activities,” including youth summer job programs.

    $88 million for renovating the headquarters of the Public Health Service.

    $412 million for CDC buildings and property.

    $500 million for building and repairing National Institutes of Health facilities in Bethesda, Maryland.

    $160 million for “paid volunteers” at the Corporation for National and Community Service.

    $5.5 million for “energy efficiency initiatives” at the Department of Veterans Affairs National Cemetery Administration.

    $850 million for Amtrak.

    $100 million for reducing the hazard of lead-based paint.

    $75 million to construct a “security training” facility for State Department Security officers when they can be trained at existing facilities of other agencies.

    $110 million to the Farm Service Agency to upgrade computer systems.

    $200 million in funding for the lease of alternative energy vehicles for use on military installations.

    We might as well be digging holes and filling them back up. Obama is just growing a bigger, bloated, inefficient government.

  • Rich doesn’t understand that TARP was a legitimate attempt (partially failed) to address one thing: a liquidity crisis. As shown by the TED spread, it prevented the interbank lending market from melting down. But it didn’t stimulate more loans.

    If you want the banks to make more loans, you have to cause their regulators to free them from currently dangerous rules – especially mark-to-market at a time when the real-estate and debt market has largely collapsed. This would cost nothing, but Congress isn’t doing that.

    Instead, we see pork upon pork, and spending for every Democrat dream of the last 30 years.

  • The idea that the business lobby is in favor of free market economics and minimal government innovation is naive. Big business gets along fine with big government – they scratch each others’ backs.

    For example, big chemical companies like certain strong environmental rules, because they can pass along the cost to consumers, while potentially threatening upstarts don’t have the size to deal with them.

    The idea that the right is going crazy is pure projection. The right is anguished and worried, but hardly going nuts.

    As to VDH, you can slander him all you want, but he’s a very serious guy, who combines his scholarship with his family’s multi-generational experience at central valley farming.

  • Slander involves verbal utterances, libel is written comment.

    The fact that you don’t know the difference between hardly makes you the authority to say that VDH is rarely wrong.

    FYI: the truth is a perfect defense against libel/slander.

  • Sarah Paliin during the campaign and continually asserted she was more experienced, more competent and more intelligent than President Obama, is merely crazy.

    It’s a good argument. She has more government experience overall, much more executive experience, and has had to make more hard choices. Or is it because she is lower-middle class and didn’t go to Harvard that you find her so worthy of derision?

    Obama, on the other hand, is now showing just how inexperienced he is. Hopefully he is a quick learner, and will correct his appallingly poor judgment shown so far since he took office. Otherwise, we are all in trouble.

    The leftist media did him and us a great disservice by failing to challenge his weaknesses. Showing just a well spoken cipher upon whom the dissatisfied could project their wishes, they both insured his election and, as usual, failed utterly in their self proclaimed role as the speakers of truth – to power or anything else.

  • Randy,
    The fact that you don’t know that in common usage, slander is used to refer to either act makes you competent only to snark. Oh, and I have long been aware of the historical legal definition.

    libel and slander, in law, types of defamation. In common law, written defamation was libel and spoken defamation was slander. Today, however, there are no such clear definitions.

  • Far-right GOPers are proving how out of touch with mainstream America they are in these fatuous arguments against the stimulus bill.

    Nuff said.

    Neither of the guys yammering on this thread even believe in the Bill of Rights but represent the “hate America Right – one wants to hang journalists and the other is a flaming racist moron whose reaction to Obama is that he’s “nigger-rich”.

    Limbaughizing the GOP is a beautiful thing. Let these guys stew…

  • Victor Davis Hansen is one of the least credible “scholars and commentators” writing today. He publishes at National Review Online, a crazy house of nonsense and mischief and has left his chair at a third-tier state university for a sinecure at the Hoover Institute, where he their resident hack for Macho-Men. His obsession with war is sad and his attempts at historical analogy generally laughable. No wonder a wack-job with a gun fetish like John Moore would find solace in Hansen’s rants (and his columns rarerly rise above the level of rants laced with bitterness.) Hanson’s “scholarship” on ancient warfare is an overtly ideological project.

    I would be slandering Hansen if I called him a pedophile. To call this man a second-rate classicist is to give him credit for his accomplishments at Fresno State. Perhaps Donald Kagan would be a “first-rate” classics scholar who is also an ideological hack when it comes to contemporary application of relatively obscure knowledge to modern politics. To call Hanson “crazy” gives him the benefit of the doubt that he’s not simply stupid – because his theories are superficial at best. But he values superficiality if it’s sufficiently robust and demanding of attention. His serial columns on Palin’s “remarkable” competence and intellect, incidentally, were a source of great humor, although I don’t think Hansen intended them as such. Hanson is to scholarship what Palin is to social policy – a glib, attractive fraud, fueled mostly by a lack of self-awareness and an eye for the main chance.

  • Celeste, you wrote:

    Average Americans—both Republicans and Democrats— are no longer content to take the word of the economic “geniuses,” …

    I reply in opposition that part of the reason that Average Americans are becoming angry is because of the very public, carefully reasoned, knowledgeable counterarguments of Paul Krugman, Joseph Stiglitz, and Nouriel Roubini.

    You paint with a brush that is too broad, IMO.

  • John,

    I thought you were actually accusing Reg of commiting a tort against VDH, at which point the distinction would be relevant. Instead, you were just passing gas. My apologies.

    I hasetn to remind you and as Reg has confirmed, the truth is a perfect defense against slander.

    Warm regards,

    RP

  • Listener, I agree with your point about the well-reasoned warnings sounded, in particular by the three you mention. I’m not sure, however, how much the average American is drawing their conclusions by listening to Stiglists and Nouriel Roubini, although I suppose Krugman, may be another matter as he’s on the cable shows a lot in addition to his NYTimes column.

    I didn’t mean to suggest that none of the economists have it right. Those three in particular have called it dead on pretty much from the begainning.

    But they were not the ones who sold us TARP. They have been the contras. And the worry is, as Rich suggests, that it is not folks of their POV, except for Paul Volcker, who are calling the shots even now. And he, as Rich says, is the outlier.

    My point is that, from the beginning there has been the repeated suggestion that, only a rarified few can “get” it. However, the public is awakening to the fact that, with the exceptions that you name (and a couple of others) it’s the folks in the rarefied bubble who, in too many cases, seem to be going the wrong direction. (I’m not talking about the stimulous package, BTW.)

    I’m rushing off, so I don’t know that I still have said that well. But, in any case, I agree with you about the folks you listed. I just don’t think that Stiglitz, and Roubini and Krugman are having much effect on this wave of populist fury. If they were, I think people would have gotten there sooner..

  • To even include the wacky Victor Davis Hansen in the same thread as Frank Rich is like having Paul Newman and Donald Duck competing for best actor award.
    Victor Davis Hansen has been the romanticist, classical history of war, meister, and voice in the wilderness for the central valley tule farmers, at Fresno State, since the reverse manifest destiny Mexicans ruined his family’s raisin farm and turned Hansen into a modern day Cassandra, warning about all things Mexican .
    Davis, on his infamous, hysterical quest to return to the good old days of yore, laments the passing of white racism and segregation in favor of modern day multi-culturism.
    His ode to the nostalgic good old days of the Ku Klux Klan and White Man domination in the central valley of California, can be found in the self revealing book he authored, and so aptly named, “Mexifornia”, brrrrrrr, where Hansen goes on and on with his opinionated and unscientific tirades about Mexican American birthrates and illegals stealing oranges from his front yard, and illegitimacy rates, and Mexican flags on cars, and the sound of the Spanish language spoken at the gas station, and on the radio, and lions and tigers and bears, oh my!
    Hansen is a total wackadoodle who sits around in his jodhpur riding pants, pith helmet, waxed handlebar mustache, and meerschaum pipe, pontificating on the tragedy of the Persians at the Battle of Gaugagmela and the betrayal of the English to European dominance of the world when they lost India to the wooly wooly’s.

  • reg: Far-right GOPers are proving how out of touch with mainstream America they are in these fatuous arguments against the stimulus bill. Nuff said.

    Sure, we should listen to someone like reg whose highest level of education is high school and leave it at that. reg sounds like Al Gore and Pres. Obama when he implies that the “debate is over” and covers up his ears.

    Why rush into something if you’re so sure that it would survive legitimate questions and analysis? Because you know it’s all a fraud and won’t work. It’s not a stimulus bill but a bill to make government bigger and more controlling. reg is afraid that the American public will catch on if more time passes, as evidenced by poll numbers that show more and more being against this wasteful and pork spending.

    If Al Gore is ManBearPig, then reg qualifies as WeenieMonkeyAss.

  • The fixation on my lack of formal education by the – literally – least admired for his intellectual acuity, admittedly least well-read and most bigoted voice on this thread is telling. I’ll call a moron a moron, a hate-monger a hate-monger and a racist a racist, but this downward spiral into kindergarten level ad hominem is surely the sign of total moral, intellectual and political exhaustion. Even a total lack of an adult sense of humor.

    Time for a “time out” as the folks who failed in produciing an intact adult mind must have surely suggested time and again when childish narcissism took over this sad little fella’s ridiculous attempts to gain attention. Why are we subjected to this embarrassing stream of “consciousness”?

  • reg, simply stated, you’re far less intelligent than you believe yourself to be. You simply reduce YOUR arguments to profanity laced personal attacks against others who disagree with you rather than address the legitimate merit of their points. I’ll match my economic and financial knowledge, including that on the phony stimulus bill, against yours any day.

    Perhaps you could start by telling us where socialism has been a great success and why.

  • Stumbling out the gate: Barack Obama flubs his first big test

    He should genuinely welcome those who want to make the bill better. After all, there’s never been much doubt he would get a huge package passed, so he doesn’t need to make enemies over it. The only real question is whether it will succeed.

    But unable to get his way quickly, he pulled rank with a snippy, “I won.” When the Senate insisted on debate, he turned to harsh attacks and campaign-style rhetoric. Some insiders already are grumbling about disarray and arrogance.

    So much for a change in Washington.

    …It’s also disappointing that, instead of appealing to our hopes, Obama has resorted to fear-mongering, a tactic he often accused former President George Bush of using. Our new President sounds like the old one, warning that failing to do what he wants would be a “catastrophe,” a word he used twice in one day.

    The real catastrophe would be to borrow a trillion dollars for no lasting result except the liberal pet projects that have turned the bill into a porkfest.

  • Celeste,

    Thanks for the response. Point taken. Still, how do you measure the reach of the internet in influencing, feeding, mitigating, touching people with respect to the outrage Frank Rich feels is building? Those three, among others as you note, have been repeatedly cited, and amplified, by alternative media sources, even as they have had some limited exposure in the traditional media. If you look at the traditional media, unless an average American were sitting in the midst of their own job loss, foreclosure, illiquidity position, they would only know that the moderates, those well touted centrists, had stripped a bunch of “pork” out of the stimulus bill. Further, they would be likely to believe that government spending was not stimulus. Worse, they might not understand that there is a difference between TARP (and it’s relatives) and the stimulus.

    Like the war in Iraq, it takes time for the facts of a situation to filter through to the public, in spite of the barriers which are erected to keep them from knowing. What are the mechanisms by which the information gets past the filters? Yes, the economy has lost a number of jobs, and the roiling in the markets has made the news, but what the public has been told through the official sources, is it’s being dealt with. Unless an individual has a personal reason to believe otherwise, why would they suspect differently?

    Of the three I noted (again, you’re correct, there are others), Roubini is the one who called to separate the real economy from the nominal economy in terms of dealing with the collapse on Wall Street. Have no idea how he thought that could be done, but I’d have listened hard were he given a platform to discuss it. And, it’s Krugman today who writes,

    So has Mr. Obama learned from this experience? Early indications aren’t good.

    For rather than acknowledge the failure of his political strategy and the damage to his economic strategy, the president tried to put a postpartisan happy face on the whole thing. “Democrats and Republicans came together in the Senate and responded appropriately to the urgency this moment demands,” he declared on Saturday, and “the scale and scope of this plan is right.”

    No, they didn’t, and no, it isn’t.

    Side note. I really got a kick out of this observation by DougJ at Balloon Juice,

    I wondered, then, why [business groups are] not pushing Senate Republicans to vote for [the stimulus bill in the House]. Well, it turns out that they are

    The main purpose of the Republican party is to support the interests of big business (this is also one of the primary purposes of the Democratic party). I’ve always thought, though, that some day the Republican party would become so insane that it would begin to frighten big business. That day may have arrived.

  • “Perhaps you could start by telling us where socialism has been a great success and why.”

    Proof of the infantile, moronic pudding in the wingnut bizarro-world where public investment, safety nets and universal health insurance – and presumably highways and a public water supply – are “socialism” that supposedly doesn’t work (even though every modern industrialised economy that “works” and provide the highest standards of living AND stability/security ever in the history of the world are premised on a vital public sector that regulates and balances the market sector.

    Back to my New Years Resolution – this guy is too stupid to bother with. I’ll try to refrain from giving him the attention he desperately craves, even by indirection.

  • “Or is it because she is lower-middle class and didn’t go to Harvard that you find her so worthy of derision?”

    Since I grew up lower-middle class and didn’t go to college, you’re erecting a straw man. Palin is a lying sack of shit – she attacks government and “socialism” – and a windfall profits tax on oil companies – yet her state takes more federal dollars than any other and is the most “socialist” state in the US, with a public-ownership scheme that taxes oil companies on their production – including on “windfall profits” and funnels the corporate taxes directly to her constituents for just breathing the Alaskan air. She also claimed to have created a pipeline project that may never go through. A nasty little lady who doesn’t have an honest bone in her body.

  • “Mexifornia” happens to be a well-balanced, informative book that portrays a credible truth, but wait and witness it yourselves in real time. It shouldn’t be much longer before “La Crisis” coupled with the direct results of the invasion over our borders creates a very real meltdown.

  • Reg,
    Your practice of continued ad hominem attacks hardly adds to your credibility. Rather, it reveals you as an angry fool, here only for the purpose of attacking people. In other words, Reg, you are a troll.

    The hatred of VDH here amazes me. The man show remarkable humility and compassion in his writings.

    I guess when some people don’t like the truth, they have to hate the messenger. I guess that’s the only way you guys can deal with cognitive dissonance.

    Victor Davis Hansen has been the romanticist, classical history of war, meister, and voice in the wilderness for the central valley tule farmers, at Fresno State, since the reverse manifest destiny Mexicans ruined his family’s raisin farm and turned Hansen into a modern day Cassandra, warning about all things Mexican .
    Davis, on his infamous, hysterical quest to return to the good old days of yore, laments the passing of white racism and segregation in favor of modern day multi-culturism.
    His ode to the nostalgic good old days of the Ku Klux Klan and White Man domination in the central valley of California, can be found in the self revealing book he authored, and so aptly named, “Mexifornia”

    This is utter claptrap, either libel (make u happy, RP – I mean that literally), or betraying utter ignorance of Hansen’s writings and character.

    BTW, as for the truth being a perfect defense against libel or slander… only if you can prove it (or the other side cant disprove it) to the satisfaction of whoever is adjudicating the case, and only if you can afford the lawyers.

  • Be amazed. Hanson is a fool and a tool – a second-rate intellectual at best. His wildly partisan contempt for Obama is palpable and, to put it bluntly, he’s not fit to shine Obama’s shoes. He knows NOTHING about economics, as is obvious in his columns, and poses as “military historian” in order to manufacture neocon apologetics for insane ventures like the war in Iraq. And Hanson does, in fact, hate the de facto “multiculturalism” of California. If Hanson is humble with his wild swings in repetitive, hyper-partisan NRO postings and syndicated columns, Napolean was a mensch and Dick Cheney is Mr. Nice Guy.

  • BTW, as for the truth being a perfect defense against libel or slander… only if you can prove it (or the other side cant disprove it) to the satisfaction of whoever is adjudicating the case, and only if you can afford the lawyers.

    The only side having to prove anything is the plaintiff.

  • Why not post it all up John Moore, it’s all true.

    “Davis, on his infamous, hysterical quest to return to the good old days of yore, laments the passing of white racism and segregation in favor of modern day multi-culturism.
    His ode to the nostalgic good old days of the Ku Klux Klan and White Man domination in the central valley of California, can be found in the self revealing book he authored, and so aptly named, “Mexifornia”, brrrrrrr, where Hansen goes on and on with his opinionated and unscientific tirades about Mexican American birthrates and illegals stealing oranges from his front yard, and illegitimacy rates, and Mexican flags on cars, and the sound of the Spanish language spoken at the gas station, and on the radio, and lions and tigers and bears, oh my!
    Hansen is a total wackadoodle who sits around in his jodhpur riding pants, pith helmet, waxed handlebar mustache, and meerschaum pipe, pontificating on the tragedy of the Persians at the Battle of Gaugagmela and the betrayal of the English to European dominance of the world when they lost India to the wooly wooly’s.”

    Hansen is just a cornpone, all dressed up for the dance, he can’t maintain civility for very long under cross examination and will allow his base prejudice to leak out for public scrutiny, it takes about as long as his meerschaum pipe to stay lit, and he’s got his boy scouts around the campfire listening to his rendition of Rudyard Kipling stories, especially Gunga Din.

    White Man’s burden after all ol chum.

  • Truth Out…

    Hanson: “(T)he bogus notion of multiculturalism has blinded us to a simple truth: we in the West can live according to our own values and should not allow those radicals who embrace or condone polygamy, gender apartheid, religious intolerance, political autocracy, homosexual persecution, honor killings, female circumcision, and a host of other unmentionables to threaten our citizens within our own countries.”

    Sorry, but this crap is a bizarre, hysterical, dishonest and/or utterly ignorant assertion – intellectual malpractice (Hanson’s stock in trade.)

  • To rise to the level of libel or slander it must be injurious to the claimant’s reputation. Given that VDH’s writings are the source of controversy, merely calling him “second rate” or even “crazy” does not rise to the level of libel as it would not harm VDH’s reputation.

    It’s opinion, John. A certain level of hyperbole is protected in this country, especially of public figures.

    More’s the pity (pun intended) that you seem unaware of it. The level of self-proclaimed victimhood among the right appears to be only increasing.

  • Randy,
    Since VDH is a public figure, it doesn’t matter anyway.

    And yes, some of it is opinion. Some of it is lying – accusing VDH of things he has never advocated.

    Would I suggest that VDH sue? Hardly.

    This “self-proclaimed victimhood” is something the left knows plenty about.

    VDH isn’t a victim. The ravings on this board are not going to hurt him. VDH hasn’t proclaimed himself a victim and I don’t claim him to be a victim.

  • John Moore Says:
    February 8th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
    “Dr. Victor Davis Hansen, a scholar and…”

    John Moore, if you’re still lurking here, I’m surprised you missed this:
    It is spelled Hanson, not Hansen. There is no wiggle room here.
    SHAME SHAME SHAME.

  • “Hansen” is just a cornpone, all dressed up for the dance, he can’t maintain civility for very long under cross examination and will allow his base prejudice to leak out for public ..

    This can be said of others how spew some very vile vitriol

    From InTheHat.blogspot

    **********************
    don quixote said…
    I know there is blame to go around but along with the shooting death of 3 year old Kaitlyn Avila and these killings (including an innocent 10 year old boy while he was on the ground), what does this tell you about culero Mayates. And look at the ages of these chanates.
    I hope the Carnals get a shot at these changos when they hit the joint.

    don q speaks

  • This “self-proclaimed victimhood” is something the left knows plenty about.

    Congratulations! Your level of argumentation has risen to the level of “I know you are, but what am I.”

    Perhaps in the future you can give some serious thought to not throwing words like slander around so baselessly. To think you accused Reg of being a troll.

  • Perhaps, Randy, you can lose the Clintonian habit if strict parsing of things you wish to attack.

    In the context of the crap that has been thrown at the right in this comments thread, slander is a kind comment.

    And, yes, reg is a troll.

  • Perhaps, Randy, you can lose the Clintonian habit if strict parsing of things you wish to attack.

    The truth is painful for you John, isn’t it? No parsing, just fact.

    In the context of the crap that has been thrown at the right in this comments thread, slander is a kind comment.

    Oh please. Now you’re just whining. Typical of those who lack the intellectual rigor to make cogent arguments.

    No Jon, you are a troll. You enter arguments with inflammatory statements solely to provoke a response. If you knew anything about Hanson, you would have known that his reputation is high among the far right. Citing him is bound to provoke a response, not on the substance, but on the credibility of his record.

    Nothing slanderous about attacking that. Grow up.

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