It’s been almost exactly a month since, on August 15, 2024, LASD Sergeant Rosa Gonzalez, challenged the demotion she received after becoming a whistleblower for the second time during her 25-years with the nation’s largest sheriff’s department.
Last month, Gonzalez challenged the punitive demotion in what is known as a Skelly hearing.
For weeks after the hearing, she heard nothing. Then finally, on Thursday, September 12, Gonzalez received a five-page reply to the highly detailed presentation that her union attorney, Mitch Kander, had given at the hearing.
The letter, which was delivered by a department captain and a lieutenant, which was signed by Sheriff Robert Luna, and Assistant Sheriff, Holly Francisco, began as follows:
“On June 24, 2024, you were served with a Letter of Intention indicating your right to respond to the Sheriff’s Department’s pending disciplinary action against you….
You were also advised of your right to review the material on which the discipline was based.
You did exercise your right to respond. However, after review and consideration of the response submitted to support your position, Department executives determined that the recommended discipline is appropriate.
You are hereby notified that you are reduced in rank from Sergeant… to Deputy Sheriff…effective at the close of business on September 12, 2024.”
The department’s leaders then followed up with a great deal more, including the allegation that former Captain Yvonne O’Brien, whose actions had much to do with Gonzalez’s whistleblowing grievance, “felt hurt and/or disgusted by your grievance which contained private and disparaging information….that had no relevance to the equity-related allegations.….”
(Note: WLA has removed file numbers and similar information that were detailed in the letter, but have no pertinence to this story.)
Gonzalez has fifteen business days from the receipt of the letter to appeal the charges it details. The appeal, the letter notes, should be made to the Los Angeles County Civil Service Commission.
In the meantime, Rosa Gonzalez who, prior to her demotion was up for a promotion to lieutenant, told WLA she was given 3.5 hours to choose whether she wanted to work as a deputy in custody—meaning inside the county jail system— or in patrol, both positions that normally would go to a brand new recruit.
As of now, Gonzalez is scheduled to work in the Cerritos station, from midnight to eight am.
“The change is taking a toll on my body, mind, and spirit,” Gonzalez told us.
Grievance and “gossip”
To better understand Thursday’s actions by the Los Angeles County Sheriff and Assistant Sheriff Francisco, it helps to take a look at some of the events that preceded this decision outlined in the letter.
As WitnessLA reported in Part 1 of this series, in the summer of 2021, Gonzalez, who was then Sgt. Gonzalez, was assigned as Operations Sergeant at the LA County Sheriff’s Personnel Administration Bureau—or PAB.
At the time, Gonzalez thought it was an ideal transfer. She would be working under another woman–acting captain, Yvonne O’Brien—and she was very interested in being part of the PAB, which is responsible for all hiring, promotions, and personnel movement at the LASD.
It is extremely important that those who work within the bureau are capable and scrupulously honest—especially since, in the LASD’s bad old days during the reign of former Sheriff Lee Baca and his notorious undersheriff Paul Tanaka, fairness and honesty were not the rules of the day. Instead, Tanaka and company had a pay-to-play promotional system, which was terrible for department morale.
All went well for Gonzalez, however, until July and early August of 2021. It was then that, according to Gonzalez, she became aware of some legal irregularities at the PAB, including incidents of cheating on an upcoming lieutenant’s exam, actions that Captain O’Brien had allegedly made possible by slipping all the test questions and the answers to a sergeant working at the PAB, and a few others.
The idea was that those who received the contraband test material, could memorize everything well before the exam. (See Part 1 for additional details.)
“Just so we’re clear,” said Civil Rights Attorney Vincent Miller, of the exam cheating problem, “such cheating is not just a violation of LASD policies, it is also a criminal act of fraud.”
As time passed, Gonzalez learned that the test cheating, was not the only unethical and illegal activity going on in the department’s PAB during the summer of 2021.
In particular, Gonzalez described how she repeatedly witnessed cases of illegal discrimination against people applying for jobs or promotions.
Some of the alleged discrimination was based on age, some on disabilities, weight, and other issues. Some people were passed over, said Gonzalez, because then-Captain O’Brian preferred someone who was male, or whom she thought was better looking, or was a friend of a friend, or ideally all three.
After a couple of weeks of witnessing this sort of discrimination, in October 2021, Rosa Gonzalez once again became a department whistleblower.
(In 2015, she filed a whistleblower lawsuit, which resulted in a significant settlement, having to do with her observations and experiences with a group of deputies at the LASD’s East LA Station, who had matching tattoos and called themselves the Banditos. It was a group that frightened community members, threatened other department members, and would soon become infamous.)
In this case, Gonzelez blew the whistle in the form of 46-page “Grievance,” detailing the string of illegal actions she had witnessed and documented. (Along with the grievance itself, Gonzalez included a pile of attachments to back up her allegations.)
Gonzalez filed the pile of documents with the Office of the Undersheriff, and assumed she would be interviewed about the contents of the grievance. But an interview, and/or any other kind of request for further information, never came.
Instead, the day after she filed her grievance, she was transferred out of the PAB, then on December 6, 2021, LASD Captain Dana Chemnitzer called Gonzalez on the phone to notify her that she was now subject in an “administrative Investigation.” This IAB investigation, Gonzalez was told, was related to the grievance she’d filed. But Chemnitzer had no further information.
Later Gonzalez would learn that she was being investigated for what was labeled “gossip,” because she had provided a copy of her grievance to those who had been harmed by the illegal discrimination. To make sure that her action in providing a copy of the grievance to those department members affected by the allegedly illegal actions that Gonzalez described in her grievance, she consulted with union representative, Kevin Thomson, who informed Gonzalez that there was no department policy against sharing her grievance with the victims.
Later still, she would find herself inexplicably charged by Internal Affairs with the same allegations of discrimination that she’d described in her grievance.
“In my twenty-seven (27) years of representing all ranks within the Sheriff ’s Department,” wrote Mitchell Kander, Sgt. Gonzalez’s union attorney, in an email to Internal Affairs, “I have never seen an individual ever classified as a complainant, witness and subject.”
Two years and ten months after the charges against her were filed, there appeared to have been no effort to investigate Gonzalez’s grievance, or the “administrative investigation,” of which she has been the subject since December 2021.
Instead, on Thursday, June 20, 2024, Captain Bryan Aguilera and Lt. Anna Carillo came to Gonzalez’s office and informed her they were relieving her of duty. The twosome then took her badge and her gun, and escorted her out of what is known as the S.T.A.R.S Center, in Whittier, CA, which is where Gonzalez was supervising a team of background investigators, who examined the backgrounds of potential LA County Sheriff’s Department employees. It was a job she enjoyed.
“I loved it,” she told WLA.
Four days later still, on Monday, June 24, 2024, the same twosome came to Gonzalez’s home and served her with a letter of intent to demote her to the rank of deputy.
On August 15, Gonzalez challenged the demotion at her Skelly hearing, during which attorney Mitch Kander, made a lengthy presentation explaining why Gonzalez should have her rank reinstated.
The department “was doing an end run” around the rights of Sgt. Gonzalez, Kander reportedly told LASD officials at the Skelly hearing.
All charges against Gonzalez, said her attorney, were based on a single event, which was her sharing of the grievance that she filed in October 2021, with the people who were the subjects of the illegal discrimination by those at the PAB.
What now?
Now, Deputy Rosa Gonzalez, who is 47-years-old, and has worked for the LASD for 25 years, is being told she must start over from the bottom.
When we spoke to Gonzales on Thursday, she described feeling shattered.
“My actions in 2021 were made in good faith,” she told us later. “They were based on my convictions and my drive to live up to what I represent. Thei nvestigation against me was a complete fraud based on reporting LASD management of illegal employment practices and corruption.
“I gave a copy of my grievance to the people who were wronged. LASD called it gossip. The law calls my actions whistleblowing. Now they are punishing me 3 years past the statute of limitations, in violation of my Peace Officer Bill of Rights.
“They are doing this because there is no accountability. No one taking illegal action against me—including the sheriff—will be held accountable.”
Postscript
Along with this newest development, there is much more to Gonzalez’s whistleblower story, including the actions by LASD officials over the last few years that, as Gonzalez suggests, appear to be in gross violation of California’s Peace Officers Bill of Rights or POBR.
So stay tuned.
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Yvonne O’Brien “felt hurt” by Gonzalez reporting O’Brien’s disgusting, illegal and discriminatory actions. Ain’t that some shit.
Not only did they demote her, but they sent her to work Cerritos station patrol on early morning shift.
Let’s recap what it takes to win a retaliation lawsuit:
Rosa Gonzalez attorney will have to prove 3 components.
1. Vincent Miller, will have to prove that a protected activity took place. In Rosa Gonzalez’s case that will be easy to show because she filed a written grievance reporting illegal conduct. That falls under a protected activity.
2. Vincent Miller will have to prove that there was an adverse action connected to the protected activity. In Rosa Gonzalez case LASD established the connection themselves by placing her under investigation (the next day) after reporting illegal conduct in writing. To top it off she was placed under investigation for sharing her grievance to the victims of the illegal conduct.
3. Vincent Miller has to show that Rosa suffered a loss as a result. LASD demoted her to deputy while on an active list for promotion to lieutenant. Then placed her back in patrol on early morning shift. She will Suffer a huge financial loss.
Seems to me like Vincent Miller obtained a civil lawsuit on a silver platter courtesy of LASD’s vengeful incompetence.
Rosa Gonzalez is a courageous hero and a good human being. Those who harmed her are leg humping cowards.
Hang in there Rosa, walk into Cerritos station with your head held high. In the end you will win with your dignity intact. O’Brien lost her dignity a long time ago.
Shameful. Corrupt. Incompetent. Dishonest. Executives involved in this demotion should be prosecuted.
This is par for the course at LASD. A group of Deputies had been defrauding the county through the use of overtime hours never worked. The department swept it under the rug and transferred and demoted the whistelblower.
I guess Sheriff Luna is no better than former Sheriff Baca and Villanueva. He fooled everyone with his smiles and handshakes.
In December of 2021,, when the 46 page grievance was filed, Alex Villanueva was Sheriff & Tim Murakami was Undersheriff. The grievance was filed with the Office of Undersheriff.
The Imposition of Discipline is being imposed by Robert Luna, the new Sheriff.
Wasn’t he supposed to be a change agent?
Vincent Miller is right: corruption is systemic to the LASD, not just “one rogue Sheriff”.
Robert Luna voiced his commitment to employee mental health and well-being. Really? What they are trying to do is destroy Rosa Gonzalez mental health. Can you imagine the stress and pressure she must be under and to make matters worse they assign her to early morning patrol! Robert Luna you are a vile poor excuse of a leader, a hypocrite for approving the demotion! You have staff of all ranks who commit real violations of policy and law who get a soft landing. You couldn’t even do that to ensure her well being!
OIG WTF ARE YOU OVERSEEING!!!!
HOW CAN YOU ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN TO SOMEONE LIKE ROSA GONZALEZ!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/l-county-sergeant-demoted-gossip-100053554.html
“Instead, on Thursday, June 20, 2024, Captain Bryan Aguilera and Lt. Anna Carillo came to Gonzalez’s office and informed her they were relieving her of duty. The twosome then took her badge and her gun, and escorted her out of what is known as the S.T.A.R.S Center, in Whittier, CA, which is where Gonzalez was supervising a team of background investigators”
Hey Bryan did your Regulator Boss force you to demote Sgt Gonzalez to Deputy. [WLA edit.]
Sergeant Rosa Gonzalez for Los Angeles County Sheriff.
To Sgt Rosa Gonzalez I would highly recommend you run for the office of Sheriff. You will make one hell of a Leader. You have good morals and conviction. We will keep in touch !!
Let us drain the swamp
All those people who were blaming av for all that’s wrong at LASD. Luna has injected the corruption with steroids. Time to remove Luna. Time for the feds to step in.
234 Code one Mary for your 459A call.
Gonzalez has my vote!!!!!
She has my vote!!!
@Wendy Byrde
Your comment:
@ Celeste, you have blocked my last 2 posts. Look at what is happening in the Department. Luna is a wolf in Sheep’s clothing. He is stifling truth and encourages vengeance from the executive staff. My post on O’brien are not satire but truth.
I agree Celeste the public needs to know the type of slithering tool executives are protecting! O’Brien is rotten to her core! How many times have people reported her? How many lawsuits because of her? How did she promote? What has she done to promote?
Rosa should have been treasured PROTECTED! Robert Luna is a USELESS EXCUSE OF A LEADER! He needs to be just another ONE TERM SHERIFF! We don’t need another executive who climbed the ranks leg humping!
LASD needs a leader like Rosa Gonzalez. She is 100 percent driven by her convictions. She is who she says she is! She is who she has demonstrated to be!
EXPOSE OBRIEN
I can’t imagine how you are feeling but one thing I know is that your faith in God is solid. Any other person would’ve given up or resigned. That is what they are hoping you will do. You are relentless and I know you will be in the fight till the end. God is with you and giving you strength to continue to fight for what is right. I am praying for you and your family as I know this affects you all. I thank you because your actions, your fight today will help to make sure all other deputies are treated fairly tomorrow.
@LA County Voter I agree Rosa is well spoken and passionate. She’s likable, I would like to see her do media interviews and gather more traction. LA County is ready for a female Sheriff and we do not have a better option within our ranks. Rosa Gonzalez is a real leader.
Dru Strong is the Cerritos Captain. Becareful Rosa they all want that next bump.
Unfortunately, we/I don’t know all the facts, I would have to read the IAB investigation and review the evidence to make a definitive judgement. But just taking this at face value based on this report, I simply do not see a demotion let alone any discipline. 3300 of the California Government Code (Peace Officer Bill of Rights) is straight forward and it is statutory law. The Department has exactly one year from the day they learn of an allegation of misconduct to “adjudicate” an administrative investigation. Adjudicate means complete the investigation, determine a finding of guilt and “serve a Letter of Intent to Discipline (not imposition).” A violation of that statute alone burns the entire case. This case was presented by her Division Chief to the Case Review Board consisting of two Assistant Sheriffs and the Undersheriff for their review and concurrence or rejection of guilt and then the same board accepts or modifies the Chief’s recommendation for discipline. The Undersheriff signs the actual Letter of Intent and this is all prior to the Skelly Hearing. Was this case reviewed by the Advocates Office (as all Case Review investigations are) since they have to represent the Department in a Civil Service hearing. Mitch is an excellent attorney and if this investigation and adjudication process is flawed, he is going to have the brass for lunch. And if the Department violated her Peace Officer Bill of Rights protection, she is going to own LASD and the County. Looking forward to monitoring this case. Paging Max Huntsman.
“In my twenty-seven (27) years of representing all ranks within the Sheriff ’s Department,” wrote Mitchell Kander, Sgt. Gonzalez’s union attorney, in an email to Internal Affairs, “I have never seen an individual ever classified as a complainant, witness and subject.”
On August 15, Gonzalez challenged the demotion at her Skelly hearing, during which attorney Mitch Kander, made a lengthy presentation explaining why Gonzalez should have her rank reinstated.
The department “was doing an end run” around the rights of Sgt. Gonzalez, Kander reportedly told LASD officials at the Skelly hearing.
All charges against Gonzalez, said her attorney, were based on a single event, which was her sharing of the grievance that she filed in October 2021, with the people who were the subjects of the illegal discrimination by those at the PAB.
Absolutely sickening situation. On the LASD site, there is a copy of I think quarterly reports detailing disciplinary action under the Transparency section. Take a look at what warrants a far lesser penalty.
Stay strong Rosa – this ain’t over.
https://lasd.org/transparency/discipline/
Unquestionable clear cut textbook retaliation. It was driven by malicious intent and big egos. They see Rosa Gonzalez as a threat. She needs moral support I hope the folks at Cerritos treat her well.
A note re the “transparency” report on the LASD site. The “transparency” has apparently stopped. Nothing posted since the fourth quarter of 2023.
However, a Sergeant was given a 20 Day Suspension for, “While off-duty, a sergeant drove his personal vehicle while under the influence of alcohol, causing concerned citizens to report his unsafe driving to law enforcement.”
Another Sergeant received a written reprimand for, “While off duty, a sergeant was arrested for domestic violence.”
And then there’s this…A 20 day suspension for, “While on-duty a sergeant (a deputy sheriff at the time of the incident) failed to utilize standard force principles and tactics when he used personal weapons to the face of a handcuffed suspect.”
The last person was not only demoted, they were subsequently promoted.
Not “judging” any of the individuals above – as I didn’t read the investigations. Just to point out the oft noted hypocrisy in the LASD disciplinary system. Unless I missed it, nothing in the first report re gossip.
Max huntsman is awol. Why did he not do a report on this ?
At the end of the day, Yvonne will retire as a Capt. or Commander, used up, miserable, with an overfilled face, balding, dark heart and alone.
Rosa you will retire as a deputy, sergeant or lieutenant it doesn’t matter. You’ll walk away with our respect, your beautiful family and a fat bank account.
@Disgusted
WOW
WOW
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If the difference in discipline doesn’t make this more despicable and vile I don’t know what does!
Rosa stay in the fight!
Let’s see who runs to the Feds first. Lmao Lmao here we go again.
@Dear Friend:
There are more like Rosa… many more. The problem is, the department of old is still alive and well when it comes to nepotism. In nearly 20 years of employment, I have seen throngs of colleagues and supervisors promoted to ranks they have no business being in. Plenty of “yes men” promoted to do the dirty work to quelch the voices of those who are truly trying to do what’s right, no matter the cost.
OIG is dropping the ball, COC is useless… and the department is hemorrhaging quality personnel into early retirement because our department execs are unwilling to accept the fact we as an agency desperately need a reset. “Gangs”, “cliques”, or even regional or unit rivalries are so freaking elementary.
I’m sick and tired of this being a soap opera… nothing changes, even after whistle blowing. What is it going to take? The BOS doesn’t care about this website… or any of us… but the true magnitude of this indifference is remarkable.
Oig and coc are just for show
Rosa, What they have done to you is so wrong in so many ways. Walk into the Cerritos station with your head held high & a smile on your face & continue to show them you won’t back down!! I know your faith is strong so keep trusting in the Lord Keep fighting & know God is in your side! Go shine for him!!
The audacity of LASD is amazing! It’s no wonder the public shows little to no respect for law enforcement these days. These corrupt and unjust things have been going on for too long. The worst part of it is that it’s no secret. The corruption of the LASD has been in public view through the news for years. The amazing thing about Rosa’s situation is that her innocence is so obvious! The violations against her Peace Officer Bill of Rights alone are clear and obvious. If the department brass thinks they’ll get away with this after it goes through the appeals process, they are far more dense and incompetent than I thought. It sucks that this kind of stuff happens to so many officers so frequently, but to try and target someone like Rosa Gonzalez, who has faithfully served the community and department with integrity and virtue for so many years, is plain madness. Again, it’s no surprise that the community has so little respect for the department when it keeps acting immorally, unjustly, hypocritically, and foolishly like this. Rosa, be patient. Endure. Continue operating with the integrity and character that has many people in the community rooting for you.
I know Rosa Gonzalez. She is a person who is above reproach, and a woman of distinct character. What is happening to her is a shame. I hope she continues to fight for parity and equity. I know the emotional toll it is taking on her and her family, but fighting for truth is never easy. She is in my prayers.
“I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them. The people will be oppressed, every one by another and every one by his neighbor; the child will be insolent toward the elder, and the base toward the honorable.” Isaiah 3:4-5.
Stay strong Rosa. May you be comforted in your affliction.
I wonder what O’Brien has on the executives and some of the Chief’s protecting her. Does she have compromising pictures. I bet the Black Widow has dirt on them.
This is disgusting, shameful and corrupt. Rosa is such a courageous woman. She stands firm in her convictions, morals and values. Those who purposely harm her will see the wrath of God upon them. Rosa is a woman of faith and I know her courage and strength come from the Lord!
Rosa, stay strong! You will see a victory. He knows all the details and he will bring out to light every single detail and your name and reputation will be white as snow. You’re fighting a huge fight but you’re not alone. Victory is yours!
Proud of you for doing what most won’t!
Rosa, you are a fearless woman! In the time that I’ve known you, I know that you are a woman of God and a woman of integrity! This department sees you as a threat because you have values and morals you won’t go against and you stand up for what is right. The fight is not over! God sees the injustice! With God by your side, you will have victory!
Remember Rosa IT’S NOT OVER.
@ Jeff Ludington – Please keep those prayers coming. The LASD is in dire need of ethical leadership and morality. We can’t believe this is actually a functioning law enforcement agency. This is so embarrassing for Los Angeles County government.
Sergeant, Rosa Gonzalez is a honest, hardworking and a great human being. We know that she is fighting for equality and fairness. We support her in her efforts and know that she will continue her fight on behalf of herself and others that have been wronged.
Rosa,
I want to take a moment to express my unwavering support for you during this difficult time. Knowing you since we were kids, I’ve always admired your strength and determination. You’ve faced challenges head-on and pursued your dreams with incredible tenacity, even in the toughest of circumstances.
It saddens me to learn about the struggles you’re currently facing. I knew things were challenging, but I had no idea it was this deep. Your integrity and commitment to justice have always set you apart, and the LASD needs more leaders like you—those who are fearless in fighting for what is right.
I am so proud to call you my friend, and I want you to know that I stand with you always. You’re not alone in this fight; I believe in you and all that you represent.
With all my support,
Teresa
Just saw a report on Channel 5 with @laurenlyster, Lauren Lyster interviewing Sheriff Luna, regarding the ‘So called’ New Gang Policy! He started his interview by stating that the issue in discussion does not define the LASD and he continued to state that there are “Wonderful People” who work at the department, people of “Integrity”. These were his words…who are these people? Sargeant Rosa Gonzalez? Captain O’Brien? Sheriff Luna? Or is he just trying to save face for the 2023 Sheriff’s Civilian oversight commission report, finding deputy gangs have existed at the LASD for decades and still active at that time! LA County Inspector General, Max Huntsman, reporting he was left in the dark…later she reported and posted a statement by ALADS President Richard Pippin: ASSOC. FOR LA DEPUTY SHERIFF’S STATEMENT “This policy enables the Sheriff’s Department to address staff who do not meet the expected standards of conduct, while safeguarding the rights that are afforded to all workers in this country. Perhaps the ‘defund the police’ crowd won’t be satisfied…”
Seriously!? Let’s always take the attention off of the problems!!!
Rosa, hang in there, don’t give up! Take this as far as you can! You are that “Employee” in the department that Sheriff Luna publicly stated on the news, Wonderful and with Integrity!!! Get your story in the News…That so called policy, states -Requirement for department members to participate in investigations of prohibited activity “Gossip”!!!
I have known Rosa for over 25 years. She is very positive, strong, and genuine, definitely a person of integrity who works hard and stands for what is right. Hang in there Rosa!! You deserve the best!!!
S Alvillar , slow down there buddy. You’re taking Celeste’s next big story. LASD stories are her only meal ticket.
@Celeste and S Avillar
The last time a new policy was introduced was by then Sheriff Alex Villanueva. It was in 2021 when he introduced the new anti-retaliation policy.
During the press conference who did Alex Villanueva praise as the only person on the Department to report systemic problems and the reason for the need of a anti-retaliation whistle blower policy?
Glad you asked….
It was Rosa Gonzalez regarding Deputy Gangs at ELA station. Alex Villanueva said, and I quote, “They should of listened to her”
Sickening that they violated that same policy to demote her. The new deputy gang policy is much of the same public pony show, it means nothing just ask Rosa Gonzalez.
Rosa,
You are a strong person of integrity and courage.
I pray that you will find peace and that you will overcome this horrible injustice. The truth will set you free and you will prevail.
God bless you and your family..
Rosa, you are a strong person of integrity and courage. I pray that you will find peace and that you will overcome this horrible injustice. The truth will set you free and you will prevail.
God bless you and your family..
Has anyone read the new LASD gang policy…well the last Policy violations are the catch alls. Point is policy violations were made albiet ridiculous ” slap in the hand” the Dept went all out on this issue.
What happens to Whistleblower cases? Especially the last ones handled by Vince Miller? Where did they go? Folks retired, bounced out pending the outcome.
After reading the complaint, I think a big payout was a motivating factor . Playing victim of your own doing is extremely manipulative.
For a second there, I felt sorry for Gonzalez but she did this all on her own. Wont be the 1st nor the last.
The LASD will continue to be the good ol boy/girl system in promotions and assignments. All about the CAR. Alot of hard working Deps have been passed over for other lazy and incompetent ones. Its not fair and thats how the world turns.
The big picture is if Vince Miller wins this case, she will get another big payout from every LA County Tax payer. Let it sink in for a minute.
Robert Luna: Ethical leaders do not run from criticism, especially self-criticism, and they definitely do not hide from uncomfortable questions. Why did you twist yourself like a pretzel when you were asked a simple question on Channel 5. Values like truth and integrity are the corner stone of our profession. Are you just giddy being in that position like a little girl seeing glitter for the first time ? Or is it the ring kissing from the heathens which gives your butterflies ? which one is it ?
We need a workplace where standards are high and fear is low. We need more Rosa Gonzales’ of the Department, not more O’Brien’s in Department. Without this fundamental commitment to truth our Department we are F****D !!!
So what are you Robert ?
I know you do not read this but your handlers do. Wait I know the magic answer. They talk to you about their faith in the Lord and you swallow it mouth wide open and head bobbling.
Rosa Gonzalez for Los Angeles County Sheriff 2026 !!!!!!
Vote for Rosa !!!
@Popcorn – Rosa will win!!!!
I hope Vince Miller takes the County to the cleaners. Won’t be the first time. Ask Bandido # 1 Alex VILLANueva why he sued when he rightfully did not get promoted.
@Eating Popcorn
I will not fault you because I assume your comment comes from a place of ignorance and not malice; or maybe you lack the moral compass to understand that someone may be driven by conviction. I don’t know however keep in mind Rosa had not taken the lieutenants exam, she was not up for promotion at the time.
Lawsuits filed by county employees (employment lawsuits) rarely payout large sums of money. Which is why when a county employee wins a large sum it is news worthy. Typically county employee lawsuits settle at 50k – 100k its public record go to the county board site.
Rosa had everything to lose and nothing to gain by reporting what she witnessed. You also have to consider she is a mandated reporter and under Villanueva’s regime there was always a fall person, and it would definitely not be Yvonne, just ask the folks selling CCWs for donations. Rosa had no other choice but to report what she saw.
I like to step back and look at all the players. When you consider Yvonne’s history and the historical practices you admitted to in your comment, one can only conclude Rosa was placed in a tough position and did the right thing.
Have you met Rosa? Rosa is street cop, she is intelligent and has been around long enough to see the writing on the wall. I believe she had no other choice but to report what she witnessed.
From speaking to her she would be the first to tell you filing a lawsuit is not worth the sacrifice to your health and mental state.
In a sense in order to expose corruption this couldn’t of happened to a better person because she isn’t lazy, great work ethic, no performance issues.
She will win again because you can’t beat someone who isn’t afraid to lose.
@ S Alvillar,
One of Sheriff Luna’s wonderful employees. I nominate him as a Medal of Valour recipient 2025
https://ktla.com/news/california/los-angeles-county-sheriffs-deputy-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-child/
@eating popcorn what she suppose to do just bend over like you. I suppose you think she orchestrated the IA investigation into herself so she can get demoted, you’re an idiot.
Such a disgrace by LASD, no wonder no one feels protected by them because all they care about is themselves and their “inner circle.” I didn’t know that the LASD was suppose to be made up of “best friends” and “connections.” It’s so sad to see that Rosa was doing what everyone else thinks is right but just goes to show that LASD does have something to hide and doesn’t want it to come to light! Rosa will win! Rosa will get victory!
@eating popcorn maybe you’re one who works in the dept as one of the “best friends” and “connections.” It’s okay to say that you didn’t get any job on your own and don’t have morals like Rosa. Trying to bring other people down it’s ugly and shameful.
Depositions in Sergeant González lawsuit are on going. The IA on González was a complete shit show from start to finish.
The topper is the testimony of O’Brien making photocopies of the 2021 lieutenants exam. Testimony that O’Brien herself conducted an “inquiry” into her own cheating allegations. LASD circus will be on full display at trial. Sergeant González doesn’t have to prove cheating or discrimination occurred, her lawyers only have to convince a jury she was retaliated in part for reporting illegal conduct that is a no brainer even @eating popcorn knows that’s true!
In the meantime block out the noise Sergeant González it’s in the bag!
Cruz
Celeste is the only one doing it.
From time to time LAT might have a LASD story, but it won’t be up for long & there’ll be no reader input.
Shut Celeste up and no one will know.
No one.
Which is what you want?
@eating popcorn I have to agree with you on this one..nice landing for her at Cerritos. Could have been worse, like Marina or Lomita.
Another example: In 2009 Compton Sergeant Cooper put a gun to Deputy Moffett’s head and mouthed, “I’m going to kill you.”
The case moved to the department’s discipline committee, headed by Paul Tanaka, with a recommendation for Cooper’s demotion. But the group of executives allegedly opted for a more lenient punishment: a 15-day suspension.
15 Day Suspicion for pointing a gun to a deputy’s head and threatening to kill him!
Contrast that to a demotion based on a gossip policy that does not exist. You can’t make this shit up!
Gosh, this feels like making a traffic stop, getting picked up by your vest, thrown in your radio car and the person taking off on you all over again.
Executives were under the impression if they demoted Gonzalez she would resign. It might have had the opposite affect, I could see her taking this to trial out of principal.
All LA County going to hear the “gossip” now.
She will win.
Employee wellness should be priority #1. Treating employees like this is NOT good. Let’s all remember what happened almost a year ago. Take note, and treat employees with dignity and respect. LASD needs major change.
https://lamag.com/news/4-los-angeles-county-sheriffs-deputies-die-by-suicide-24-hours
@Change is coming
LASD protects bad apples and viciously makes examples out of people like Gonzalez.
DOJ needs to investigate the Gonzalez investigation. The flagrant disregard for policy and the law, absurdity of it all is on another level. This has to weigh on Gonzalez.
@Change is coming:
While the county might care (somewhat) about employees; the department still doesn’t. The overtime aspect of the problem is only one facet… the morale is in the crapper; so many things that continue to be blatantly ignored.
Instead of getting to the bottom of core issues, we continue to fall for smoke and mirror stories of “gangs and tattoos”… the troglodytes that still willingly ink themselves with a brand that truly doesn’t care about them need to go off and gloat with their kind of days gone by…. all illusions of grandeur.
You would’ve thought those 4 deaths would’ve rattled the BOS to launch some sort of fact-finding endeavor… but here we are less than a year later, no change in-house. This isn’t just a ship without a sail; we are taking on water due to our own ignorance and indifference.
At the end of the day, it will have to be Regulator Commander P. McDonald who will have to defend his decision to demote this employee. The practice of feeding employees to the Civil Service Commission is alive and thriving. Our discipline system is only fair to the popular employees, those who are not, get the short end of the stick. I’m not a fan of Vince Miller, but he may have a case here.
Rosa!! Your problem is your representation!!!! Mitch Kander!!!! I’m sure you’ve heard the term “playing both sides of the fence” No Bueno!!!!! Good luck
Not normally a fan of typos or correcting one’s grammar, but I meant to say “delusions of grandeur” in my last post. I blame it on the ongoing massive amounts of mandatory OT/drafting. Well, at least in part… but the end to that is nowhere in sight due to the fact we can’t meet hiring goals and current line staff are dropping like flies.
I can’t wait to see what this place looks like when the Olympics come to town!
It takes a lot of courage to bring attention to a matter that other people shy away from but are also affected by. Rosa, don’t lose encouragement in this fight. Many who will come after you will be so thankful. God is with you!
@Antonio Ramirez the same can be said of the PPOA board, it’s made up of self serving boot lickers. What did PPOA do for Rosa Gonzalez? Any statement about an employee being demoted for taking advice from her union? PPOA should be up in arms about this and we haven’t heard a peep. The last PPOA president is now Holly Francisco’a aide, lining up for her next promotion. At the helm is Steven Johnson what a joke! Rosa needs to sue the shit out of PPOA too! Fortunate for her besides civil service she has the added aspect of her civil lawsuit pending, and from the looks of this case a bankruptcy attorney can win this in court. Vincent Miller would have to be a brain dead doofus to lose! Rosa you’ve got the silent majority of LASD in your corner. Many minds are confident and counting on your success. Stay strong!
Wait? What? Who is the Assistant Sheriff’s Aide?
Huh?????
Let the squealing begin!!
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-09-24/la-county-sheriffs-deputies-relieved-of-duty-federal-investigation
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-09-24/la-county-sheriffs-deputies-relieved-of-duty-federal-investigation
Here we go AGAIN !!!
Sheriff Luna are these some of your wonderful employees you were talking about. Looks like everything is pretty tight lipped …. some computer searches and logs onto systems. Looks like the executive staff @ SOD lead by Jack Ewell, Tom Giandomenico (who just got back from IOD after his tear ducts dried up from crying after VILLANueva’s loss), and Oscar Barragan leading the clown show. So how are you guys going to spin this shit show ladies !!!
A new look on the LASD website. It appears the Organization Chart is a thing of the past!! I hope it’s just getting an update…
@Antonio,
https://lasd.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/LASD_Org_Chart_092224.pdf
It is on the Home/ Executive Staff page
Jason Skeen is the Sheriff, Luna is just a parade prop! SICKENING!
The link provided up above by Antonio Ramirez & Wendy Byrde but without the LAT paywall
https://www.yahoo.com/news/several-l-county-sheriffs-deputies-054118374.html
Reader commentary is from Yahoo!, not LAT.
@Wendy Byrde
The criminal complaint for the “wonderful employees “
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.942083/gov.uscourts.cacd.942083.1.0.pdf
Just read the FBI affidavit regarding Deputies 1,2 and 3. I’d say you boys are in line to play America’s most favorite game show, “Let’s make a deal!” You threw it all away, for what?
@ Jason Skeen, the SOD clowns lead by Jack Ewell, Tom Giandomenico and Oscar Barragan …how are you guys going to spin this off. Jack you are the “Joe Biden” of our Department. An Old man just trying to stay relevant by shining Luna’s boots on a daily basis. Do you even remember how you get to work from the IE. A little birdy told me Deputy 2 has a how should I put it ” Clique ” tattoo and is a wonderful employee. Robert Luna you are a little girl who came from a small agency, and now are being played around by the likes of Jason Skeen, and the entire executive staff. The all poke fun at you behind you back. Like they say … you can take the little boy out of the ELA Ghetto, but you can’t take the ghetto out of him.
Like I said and I’ll say it again! Who is going to run to Feds first? Lmao
Got it “Wendy Byrde”
Wrapping the “Dog washer 360” around all this nonsense couldn’t clean it up… inventing bullshit reports is about all they’re good at!
Deputy 1, 2 and 3 have got away with much much more it just so happen they got caught now. What is the likelihood they all have deputy gang tattoos?
@Anonymous
I would bet all three have tattoos and they finally got caught. Meanwhile, the department is focusing on opening bs, illegal and out of statute cases against employees like Gonzalez.
Wendy, don’t you have a “clique” tattoo? Your comments on this article and others are so transparent. Nothing but a chicken bone!
There is something very wrong when an employee like Rosa Gonzalez, can only seek “justice” outside of LASD. When executives say, “Screw her, let her take it to Civil Service, they can give her stripes back,” that is a display of arrogance and corruption at the highest level. And since Luna and Tardy listened to the Skelly appeal, it’s all on them. If Mitch brought out obvious wrongs throughout her investigation, it was their OBLIGATION to rule in her favor. So this will play itself out in Civil Service or Superior Court (final disciplinary relief) and let the chips fall where they may. If Gonzalez prevails and the ruling ends up being a violation of her statutory rights under the Peace Officer Bill of Rights (POBR) 3300 California Government Code, OR, the discipline was deemed to be completely out of line or she is factually exonerated, this is ALL going to blow up in Luna’s face like an exploding cigar. Then…….she will have her day in court with a seven figure (again) settlement, but not until depositions are conducted. THEN ALL the decision makers are going to have to justify every step of the investigation and discipline decision process, that might make for serious drama. Hang in there Rosa, if you are solid innocent, your day will come. You never know what good things are ahead in your future.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/lawsuit-over-alleged-la-county-deputy-gang-harassment-settled/ar-AA1rnauF
@Darlene, I do not have Lennox ink. But since you are so curious … a little birdie told me that the tentacles of the Federal investigation are spreading. I hear Deputy 1, Deputy 2, and Deputy 3 are singing like twee-tie birds. They are naming names …of all their fellow accomplices ( who got paid a percentage of the purse for using Department computers ). Are you one of those Regulators or Cavemen who tries really hard to impress your boss ? Let me give you some wisdom. It is not going to save you when the Feds come calling. You too will play Americas Favourite game and sing like a bird.
Sorry to disappoint @Wendy, I have no ink in the game! Just curious about your hatred towards Skeen, Regulators, Banditos, I guess Cavemen now too, SEB and their personnel. I thought this article was about Rosa, but I guess you wanted it your way.
@ Wendy Byrde
PREACH!!!
@Darlene-
Most of this animosity is unbeknownst to the majority of us. But, when many of us hire on, we are oblivious to these types of allegiances. None of us hired on for the pay… and even the benefits aren’t what they used to be. We hired on because we felt it in our blood… we once operated all the same way. We wanted to do right thing, even if it meant working harder.
But, we all see the divide. We all see those who are groomed, or interject themselves in order to receive approval. There are still those of us on the department who want to do what’s right, no matter the cost… Sounds like Sgt Gonzalez is one of them.
What is it going to take to eradicate the “good ol boys club”? I’ve had supervisors from those “fast stations”… you know the kind I’m talking about… the ones who should’ve been issued crayons rather than a PR-24… yet they got off training, lord only knows how. They skate on loyalty and allegiances and bumble through super school and before you know it, they become chief’s aides or something similar… good ol’ boys club to the rescue yet again.
I’m all for hard work… but the quid pro quo has been and will be our undoing.
LASD loves sweeping stuff under the rug… it’s become modus operandi. Who does that hurt? Those that were called to serve… it comes right out of their pockets. No wonder we’re continually under scrutiny. What’s really crappy is those key holders know the people who should be involved in righting this ship for the common good… but they are more concerned about getting that next butter bar or star.
@Tradition,
Amen !!!!
@ Darlene, I do not hate the players. I just hate the games they are playing. They not only ran the bus over Rosa, they backed up after then ran the bus over her. Let’s get one thing right here. Skeen calls shots. Did anyone not know about the 3 Deputies running roughshod. Aren’t you humiliated by what is going on. Or are you looking for your next step up. The rest of the executives sit back and watch the Department fall apart. If Regulators, Cavemen, Badidos, and the likes of O’Brien get the Attaboys and are protected by Chief’s then we are doomed. Why should the people we serve trust us if we can’t trust ourselves in the first place.
But it all starts with leadership. Luna got into office promising clean up of Deputy gangs, but all he has done is embrace the swamp!!!
Deputy Coyle should Go to Vegas and purchase the best seats possible to an exciting boxing event.. when the bout is over, play a little in the Casino, bet on yourself and win yourself some casino chips.. When you get back home plan a fiesta and rent some nice tabkes and chairs for your loyal friends and enjoy yourself!
@ Tradition of Service
Eloquently said and right on target.
@Darlene,
You know that there is a “ Criminal investigation being conducted by the U.S/A in LA in relation to Deputy 1, Deputy 2, Deputy 3, and one of our crime Analysts who helped them ping phones. And, the best part is these dirt dirds are fully co-operating.
Now Darlene, are you one of those who would obstruct justice would you? Are you one of the Chief’s aides who would happen to ignore those wonderful calls from the Feds ? Would you risk it all, and bobble your head and say the wonderful words “Yes Boss” I will risk my entire career for you… damn the ramifications which will come. Again, us Honorable hardworking line folks do the Lords Work in a professional, intelligent, brave and Honorable fashion, while guys like you show your ineptitude and incompetence.
@Tradition
Sorry, I am not buying it. Does not matter where you work, what station ink you have or don’t have, or who you are aligned or friends with, this department allows you to get most jobs. If you are not happy with your situation, most need to look in the mirror and moreover stop filing lawsuits!
@Wendy, not sure who you think I am, but I have nothing to do with that investigation and dont know ONE person under investigation for it. I have zero connections to it. I asked you a question a few post ago about certain individuals, and you haven’t answer, but spin off on this investigation and somehow try to link me to it? Your comments have nothing to do with me OR Rosa.
@Darlene-
I don’t need you to buy anything. Haven’t asked. It’s ever present. For nearly two decades I’ve been a party of one…. and that’s how we should all be. Unfortunately we have cliques, groups, subgroups, or whatever else the public wants to call them; and unfortunately those groups heavily influence the majority of important happenings on this department. It would’ve been harder to prove, but then those pesky tattoos keep popping up… but there’s more to it than that… it’s the additional BS that comes along with the “camaraderie”.
I for one have never been about that. I’ll always back partners… no need to look in the mirror, because I don’t worry or care about how others perceive me, I’ve always tried to do what’s right, even if it might not be popular… and I can say from first hand experience, that’s not popular/welcomed by LASD any longer.
For the record, I’ve never filed or been a part of any lawsuit… so there’s that.
@Darlene,
I do know you are an incompetent lackey who does the bidding for your Boss. Since you want to know here we go…. Jason Skeen runs the Department. Luna is the bobble head. He almost wants Skeen’s approval and not the other way around. It’s like going back to the Baca days. Baca payed the role of figurehead and tall Paul ran the Department literally and figuratively right into Federal Prison. I am waiting for the Cigar rooms to open back up. Furthermore, Jason has positioned all his boys into positions (he owes them from the VILLAN’s days). SOD led by old man Jack ( the Joe Biden of our Department ) Tom G, and Oscar B. What did you guys know about Deputy 1, and for how long did you guys know.
Sheriff Luna talked a big game about cleaning up Deputy Gangs. Now you have Regulator # 1 leading Personnel. Bandido as Chief at Detective Division and now Holly says he is sun-setting ( after screwing Gonzalez’ career ).
BREAKING**** To all of Jim McDonnell haters; McD says How do you like me now. Tom G… hope your hands are fine to shake McD’s hand to congratulate him after you shed those tears for the VILLAN !!
@Wendy, you should grab some Cuban food with your chicken bones. One cannot be a lackey as YOU referred, if one doesn’t have a boss!
@ Wendy
I loved you last paragraph, re: Breaking ****
McDonnell has moved on & up while LASD is consistently moving backwards.
The scene at LASD is the same with associates of the last regime as replacements.
@Darlene,
I may enjoy Cuban food sometimes although I enjoy Italian a lot better. I am getting to understand you lackey.
Judgement in our line of work is essential and I see you lack sound judgement.
Rosa take care of yourself but give them a fight! IT’S NOT OVER!
Anonymous
Agreed!
She will win this fight because
1.. She is right.
2. She is smarter than they are.
3. Her lawyer is smarter than their lawyers.
She has a Baccalaureate. Personally I would like to see her graduate Law School (my daughter graduated Loyola Marymount & is doing quite well), pass the Bar Exam, & become an advocate for people like herself.
Where she can continue to fight the Good Fight.
@Wendy, I too understand you Torva Messor, and always have. My judgement and my career is going fine.
Is ELA Deputy May Valet Parking the Dodge Chargers over at the Hall Of Justice?