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The Importance of Parks That Belong to All of Us

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The fate of the California state parks is still up in the air.
100 out of the state’s 279 parks are slated to be closed to help shore up the budget gap. Park funding was yanked by Governor Schwarzenegger in a unilateral move when the legislature refused to pass the cuts he thought were necessary.

When and if the drastic shuttering takes place, Arnold Schwarzenegger will be the first governor in California history to close a state park in order to save money.

This week State Parks officials said that they aren’t exactly sure which 100 parks will be closed as making that list has turned out to be more complicated then anyone quite realized.

Yet there is a ballot measure that will go on the November 2010 ballot. If passe it will raise vehicle license fees $15 to raise $400 million a year, and fully fund the parks and then some, reports the San Jose Mercury News.

Environmental organizations such as the Nature Conservancy, National Audubon Society, Trust for Public Land, Save-the-Redwoods League and others have raised nearly $1 million and conducted months of polling toward getting the measure on the ballot.



In a serendipitous bit of timing,
to remind us of the importance of our public open spaces, Ken Burns’ new documentary “National Parks: Americas Best Idea,” premiers this month on PBS and KCET. It was filmed over a period of six years.

To help focus attention on the series, California civil rights lawyer, Robert Garcia, who is also the Founder and Executive Director of The City Project, will be guest blogging for KCET about the importance of our region’s national, local and—of course—our imperiled state parks.

There are few in the state more knowledgeable on the issue, or more impassioned.

Here is an opening clip from his first essay.

Wallace Stegner, the Stanford writer and historian, famously wrote national parks were “the best idea we ever had.” “Absolutely American, absolutely democratic, they reflect us at our best rather than our worst.” National parks continue to diversify what it means to be American and democratic.

You can read the rest here.

The above photo is of kids from the Anahuak Youth Sports Association hiking in Franklin Canyon as part of a project called Transit to Trails.

42 Comments

  • Try this exercise. Hold out in two hands a park pass and $50 and ask some kids to choose one. Which do you think that they would pick?

    Talk about saving the parks is nice, but having money for other things, often more important or urgent, is better. You need to quit thinking about what you want and, instead, what is best and necessary for your State at this time.

  • Woody has defined the “conservative values” he wants passed along to the children in one swell foop…

    Great comment. Now Woody, try that with a Bible in one hand and a $10 bill in the other…then draw whatever conclusions you deem appropriate. Then try it with a picture of Ronald Reagan and a ticket to his Library and a dime…

  • I love Franklin Canyon – reminds me I haven’t been there in too long. Hope they don’t impose parking fees there, no one would go, it’s such a small, local park. Great and safe for small children with a little hands-on museum, duck pond, car- free walking paths. That’s Santa Monica Conservancy, though: is that a state park?

    Other than the very large parks, with lodges or campsites, I wonder if people will just stop going about a certain fee, say $8-10.00, and thus the overall revenue be actually lower. But definitely all for exploring any ways to keep them open; especially those on the coast or rare scenic spots. Seems absurd to close them and let them fall to seed. Plus, in that case kids growing up wouldn’t even know or care about them enough to fight to re-open them.

  • Oh spare me your bs Joe, ACORN has been protected by the leftists in congress for years and is a blatantly corrupt orginization. I’m disgusted by plenty of people of all races and your comments are simple minded without a bit of fact attached to them. Playing the race card is so fing weak.

    Little Jimmy Carter is in the house.

  • I’ve defended ACORN myself. But I’m sure over it now. Yes, yes, I know that many parts of the organization have contributed good things, but those tapes are so damning I am left speechless.

    I mean the ACORN workers were fully willing to help facilitate (and work out a tax strategy for)—not just prostitution—but sex slavery. SEX SLAVERY!!! With 15-year olds! And they got caught not just in one office, which would have lent credence to the couple of bad apples theory, but I think we’re now at three.

    Worse, as Jon Stewart said, it looked like they’d already thought this sort of thing through in other instances, thus has a ready answer

    And ACORN’s response, last time I looked has been….let’s just call it inadequate.

  • We should also try another exercise. Hold out in two hands a bible and a baggie of marijuana and ask some kids to choose one. Which do you think that they would pick?

  • I didn’t watch the entire ACORN tapes – just a couple of clips, but what I saw was so outrageous that I have to give at least the possibility of credence to what Michael Turner wrote at Marc Cooper’s blog – the “investigative journalists” were suggesting stuff so bizarre that the ACORN workers decided to have some fun with their transparent bullshit and get just as outrageous. What makes this plausible is that the ACORN lady who claimed that she’d killed her husband and got away with it in responding to some of the “reporters” crazy scenario didn’t kill her husband – he’s alive and apparently well – although Glenn Beck and the rest of FOX were reporting it as fact because it was on a video tape. I don’t give a shit about ACORN and the right has blown them up into a much bigger deal than they ever have been – I mean they have fewer criminals and psychopaths working in these offices than the average urban police department and if these scenarios are real and not put-ons, they were pretty much just taking a page from the mortgage operations of our major banks over the past decade of accomodating any and all comers, no matter how outrageous.

    Nobody except the FOX BarcaLoungers give a shit about this and it’s a non-story in the larger scheme of what’s on the table politically right now. Surefire is nothing but a tiresome little dick – and a limp one at that.

  • Incidentally, these “reporters” apparently tried the same stunt at many ACORN offices – more than what we’ve seen – so the notion that a certain percentage reacted not by just telling them to leave the office but by playing along with these folks in Halloween costumes and getting even more outrageous in their suggestions (401ks for teen prostitutes ? Come on – that was a serious proposal ?) is entirely plausible. This whole ACORN thing is a bullshit strawman. I’m not buying it – in part because crazy, shitty, bitter, soulless, bile-driven people like Woody, Surefire, Glenn Beck and those FOX Barbies are hyping it. Sorry, but it’s not credible as being presented. And the media and faux-reporters selling the story aren’t competent – in fact they are near-certifiably insane and/or total clowns. Glenn Beck isn’t the only person on the planet capable of outrageous, bogus theatrics – I’m betting the ACORN workers were doing the same thing he does every night on his show.

  • Woody – you’ve just earned a “Go fuck yourself.” You’re a useless little worm. The funny thing is that without taxes and complicated tax codes you wouldn’t be able to earn a living. You’re part of the unproductive paper-pushing, number-crunching superstructure that creates no value. Zilch.

  • I don’t give a shit about ACORN – but I know what kind of garbage we’re dealing with in the ant-ACORN faction so I’m not taking them at face value. They’re far more discredited than ACORN, just on the basis of all the videos out there of Glenn Beck lying, crying and making wild accusations to get attention. That on-tape evidence outnumbers the “damning” ACORN videos by some hundreds.

  • Reg, all of what you say is what makes saying anything about the ACORN situation so impossible—which is honestly why I didn’t post about it, although I thought about it days and days ago. The level of dishonesty and vitriol coming from the Glenn Beck/Rush L. faction in this country is so poisonous that one wants to oppose anything they even marginally support.

    But—apart from the cynical and mendacious way this is being used by that odious and downright scary faction mentioned about —I’m trying to find my own center of intellectual honesty about ACORN.

    Having actually taken the time to watch the junk, including checking out the woman who bizarrely decided to have her own moment of theater with the sting team (which I quite believe), I think ACORN needs to have a long hard look at its organization if they are to recapture any kind of credibility. The way they have handled this from the jump is to condemn the messenger, and they have done so repeatedly, which is exactly the wrong reaction.

    Watch Jon Stewart on this. I think he nails it.

    http://reason.com/blog/show/136152.html

  • I’m saying that what was done was professional and I have long had doubts about ACORN being quite all it’s cracked up to be. I don’t really care much about ACORN because anyone watching the attacks on ACORN unfold knows this is a bullshit straw man that has zilch to do with Obama. When I first watched a piece of the ACORN video my jaw dropped. But it’s increasingly obvious the conversations on those tapes are theater on both sides. The fact that one of the women started talking about killing her husband confirms that in my mind. What’s most ridiculous about this is that those “reporters” thought they were doing anything more than dressing up like Halloween and making asses of themselves. They were the ones who got played IMHO, although the ACORN folks were stupid not to think that they might be secretly taped and taken seriously.

  • It used to be that homeless people would sometimes camp in parks. It always seemed like the best possible place to be homeless. Since so many fees have grown over the years you rarely see them anymore.

  • Is it telling that the ACORN woman immediately, without skipping a beat, chooses the category “Performance Artist” when trying to help the “hooker” to figure out what to put on her tax forms ? The more I see of those videos, the less I can take them seriously.

  • Snitch Reg is so weak, what a donk. He’s now shown that he’s ok with aiding and abetting child prostitution so what’s next with this total piece of human waste? Is there a lower level this pervert can reach? I’m betting there is.

    Yeah, Obama had nothing to do with this, but he came up and made his bones as a community organizer and has continually supported ACORN. Reg needs more meds when his night nurse tucks him in at the home.

    Reg just loves crooks, long as they think like him. What a fraud.

  • Go fuck yourself. You’re yammering like an raging idiot. And wipe the drool off of your chin before you go to your yoga class with the ladies.

  • Reg, the more you post on this, the more it is clear that your ideology has caused you to lose all connection with reality on this issue.

    You’ve lost it dude.

    Admit it – the evil Glenn Beck nailed a big one, honestly and directly (or more accurately, he publicized what some enterprising right-wing Michael Moore types did).

    Why not just accept this one reality, let it slide on by, and you can keep on with your beliefs that the center of evil in the universe is Fox/Beck. Beck will certainly say some outrageous and stupid things soon enough – that are not backed up, unlike in this case.

    Celeste has the intellectual honesty and stamina to accept this even if it comes from sources she detests. You could learn from her.

  • Moore – I know how important this ACORN bullshit is to wingnuts, racists and Depends-wetting hysterics of a certain age, but if you can tell me with a straight face that three things are true, I’ll give you this one:

    1) Evidence that the woman who claimed she got away with killing her husband when confronted with this Halloween duo actually killed her husband and wasn’t putting these idiots on.

    2) Your firm belief that “Performance Artist” would first come to the mind of someone diligently trying to help a “hooker” find an appropriate way of filing taxes.

    3) That “give them 401Ks” would be anything other than a suggestion letting the “performance artists” proposing a sex slave plan that their ridiculous “Trick or Treat” game was totally obvious and a bad joke.

    I know you can’t find evidence for #1, so I’m safe in proposing this, even if you’re so deadly stupid or mendacious that you’re going to try to play me for #2 and #3.

    Have a nice day, moron.

  • Try this exercise. Hold out in two hands a bible and $50 and ask some kids to choose one. Which do you think that they would pick?

    No more investment in youth ministry, I guess!

    What a ridiculous “argument.”

  • Reg talking about the “hatemongering” of others is a joke. His discourse has no place in a civil society. Of course the term “hatemongering” was something first coined by his mom’s doctor, who said ” What the hell did I do?” when Reg slid out and said “fck you whitey, that hurt, where’s my lawyer, get me Morris Dees damn it”.

    Some of those ladies in class are fun to watch.

  • reg, try running commerce without accounting, auditing, budgeting, and analyses and try running government without complete and accurate tax reporting and compliance. I’d say that what I do for a living is a necessary function, and you couldn’t put your hands in other people’s pockets if I didn’t have the information for you to know whom to mug.

  • Yet you bother with him Reg….and that makes you?

    ACORN story that shows it should be investigated on a bunch of levels. A person is as corrupt as the groups and individuals they support.

    ACORN EQUALS OBAMA EQUALS SEIU

    Did ACORN get too big for its own good?
    By SHARON THEIMER and PETE YOST, Associated Press Writers

    Saturday, September 19, 2009

    (09-19) 21:00 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) —

    Activist group ACORN started in 1970 to help poor people in Arkansas and by decade’s end went national, expanding into a multimillion-dollar conglomerate with a mission so far-flung that schools now bear its name, two radio stations are affiliates and a man its political arm endorsed is the president. Oh yeah — and it’s the unwilling star of a hot Internet video featuring a couple dressed as a hooker and her pimp.

    And that last bit is just one of its problems.

    The organization praised for its Hurricane Katrina relief efforts and treated by federal, state and local governments as a valuable public resource has had nearly $1 million embezzled from it by its founder’s brother. The openly Democratic-leaning group has seen its employees accused of voter registration fraud, and taking it down has become a cause celebre for Republican lawmakers, activists and pundits.

    As if volunteers allegedly signing up cartoon character Mickey Mouse to vote didn’t give ACORN enough bad publicity, the public is enthralled with new videos distributed on the Internet and aired on television news shows showing ACORN employees in Brooklyn, N.Y., advising a couple posing as a hooker and pimp to lie to get housing aid, and employees in other cities counseling the pair on tax, banking and immigration issues.

    Many Democrats used to advertise their ACORN connections. Now, however, the Democratic-led Senate has voted to cut off its grants from the Department of Housing and Urban Development, and the Democrat-dominated House doesn’t want it to get any federal money, period.

    White House press secretary Robert Gibbs called the conduct in the videos “completely unacceptable” and a top supporter and prominent ally of President Barack Obama, John Podesta, is on an ACORN advisory panel working to clean up the mess.

    Republicans are using ACORN to portray Democrats as corrupt and distract Obama from his policy agenda, the same way that Democrats used issues involving Halliburton, the giant government contractor and ex-employer of former Vice President Dick Cheney, against the GOP during the Bush years. Top Republicans from congressional leaders to California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger want criminal probes of ACORN’s activities and conservative voters are pressuring news organizations for coverage.

    The Census Bureau this month cut ties with ACORN for the upcoming census, and a nonpartisan watchdog group, Citizens Against Government Waste, named senators who voted to continue financing ACORN as its “September Porkers of the Month.”

    New York Gov. David Paterson on Friday ordered state agencies to examine all of their contracts with ACORN over the next month and to put holds on them until the reviews are finished.

    ACORN has portrayed its problems as the unfortunate work of a few employees. In the best case, that suggests it made bad hires and gave them poor training and supervision. But when the founder of a national organization admits attempting to keep quiet his brother’s theft of more than $900,000, it’s a sign that ACORN’s problems may rise high and run deep.

    How did ACORN wind up in this mess? Did it simply grow too big for its own good?

    The scope of government investigations into its activities is unknown. Voter registration fraud cases involving ACORN workers are pending. HUD’s inspector general has acknowledged an investigation is under way. ACORN this past week announced an internal investigation into the video scandal and said it won’t accept new clients into its housing program in the meantime.

    ACORN chief executive Bertha Lewis has pledged do whatever necessary “to re-establish the public trust.” She condemned the actions of the two employees who appeared in the Brooklyn footage, but ACORN also contends segments of the video shot there and in other cities by the hidden-camera couple were manipulated to make it look bad.

    Lewis called the attacks “reminiscent of the McCarthy era.”

    “We understand that the Republican Party is upset and the right wing is upset because they are out of power now,” Lewis said Friday on New York City radio station WNYC.

    James O’Keefe, one of the two filmmakers, said he went after ACORN because it registers minorities likely to vote against Republicans: “Politicians are getting elected single-handedly due to this organization,” O’Keefe told The Washington Post. “No one was holding this organization accountable.”

    The group is confident it can survive the loss of federal money and ride out its troubles.

    “The majority of our funding comes from our membership and from our supporters,” spokesman Brian Kettenring said. “Any attempt to try to limit our access to particular sets of funding is not likely to have much impact on our core operations. It will hurt the individuals that benefit from that particular project. It’s pretty clear this sort of attempt to cut off funding is politically motivated more than sort of driven by a high-minded concern for good governance.”

    ACORN’s annual budget is $25 million, Kettenring said. Of that, about 10 percent is federal money and a much smaller share comes from state and local governments, he said. The budget covers ACORN’s national office, its state and local chapters and the ACORN Institute, Kettenring said.

    ACORN doesn’t file a publicly available “990” report with the Internal Revenue Service detailing its finances, spending, relationships and activities. Some of its arms do, but those reports do not reflect the full range of money that ACORN gets or all the things it does.

    HUD said this past week that it has given ACORN roughly $42 million since the 2000 budget year. A July report by California Rep. Darrell Issa, the top Republican on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said ACORN had received more than $53 million in federal money since 1994.

    ACORN — short for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now — began in Little Rock, Ark., in 1970 as the Arkansas Community Organizations for Reform Now.

    Founded by community organizer Wade Rathke, ACORN’s goal was to merge the varied interests of the economically disenfranchised, from welfare mothers to working people in need, regardless of race.

    “I had great respect for Wade,” Little Rock civil rights lawyer John Walker recalled Thursday. “He was smart. He seemed principled. He was dedicated. He was able to establish rapport with people. Wade was seeking to empower the powerless by getting them involved in the political process.”

    In the 1970s, Rathke succeeded in spreading the vision of civil rights leader George Wiley to other states and in 1978, ACORN held its first national convention.

    Besides its community organizing, housing work and get-out-the-vote activities, over the years ACORN and its various affiliates have tackled such issues as predatory lending, a power plant in California, a telecommunications company merger, immigration fraud, financial literacy, racial discrimination, land use and lead poisoning.

    It opposed Wal-Mart’s effort to start a bank and contends that big-box stores often take away more from communities than they give. It partnered with former President Bill Clinton’s foundation to make Hurricane Katrina survivors aware of a tax credit for low-income workers.

    ACORN in 2006 estimated the monetary value of its successful activism over the previous decade at $15 billion.

    Its affiliates include nonprofit radio stations KNON in Dallas and KABF in Little Rock. The stations and ACORN work closely together, share a common mission and have offices in the same buildings, Kettenring said.

    Two schools in New York City have partnered with ACORN and bear its name: ACORN Community High School and ACORN High School for Social Justice. The schools’ state report cards identify ACORN Community High School as in good standing for student performance, while the other school needs improvement in some areas.

    ACORN has long been involved in local and national politics.

    In the 1970s, the group supported candidates for elective office in Little Rock and several ACORN members won elective office themselves.

    In 1984, seven local ACORN groups supported Jesse Jackson for president in state primaries, and four years later the organization had 30 delegates on the floor of the Democratic National Convention on Jackson’s behalf.

    In the early days in Little Rock, the local power structure tried to deal with ACORN by ignoring it, a tactic that didn’t work, recalls Walker, the civil rights lawyer.

    “They were very vocal and very active for the years of their infancy,” Walker recalls. “They were very effective.”

    ACORN calls itself the largest grassroots community organization of low- and moderate-income people in the country, claiming over 400,000 families, more than 1,200 neighborhood chapters in about 75 cities.

    The group and Obama long have been familiar with each other.

    Obama helped represent ACORN in a successful 1995 lawsuit against the state of Illinois that forced enactment of the “motor-voter law,” making it easier for people to register vote.

    ACORN’s political action committee endorsed Obama for president and the Obama campaign gave an ACORN subsidiary $832,000 for get-out-the-vote activities.

    In a video posted on YouTube less than two weeks before the November election, Lewis told New York voters to “vote for the community organizer Barack Obama.”

    “I’ve been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career,” Obama told ACORN leaders in November 2007, according to a posting on Obama’s campaign Web site at the time. “Even before I was an elected official, when I ran Project Vote voter registration drive in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, and we appreciate your work.”

    Pro-Democratic groups, including unions, paid branches and affiliates of ACORN for get-out-the-vote activities in 2007 and 2008.

    ACORN’s longstanding connections to unions — Andrew Stern, president of the Service Employees International Union, is among those with Podesta on the ACORN advisory panel — illustrates some of the contradictions found in ACORN’s past.

    Despite apparently sharing union priorities such as higher pay for minimum-wage workers, ACORN got in trouble with the National Labor Relations Board during President George W. Bush’s first term for allegedly attempting to thwart employee efforts to unionize.

    According to an NLRB case accusing ACORN of unfair labor practices, “field organizers were expected to work long hours each week — 54 hours — and were paid at a salary of $16,000 annually until January 2001, when the salary was raised to $18,000.”

    The NLRB documented a high turnover rate for ACORN employees: In 2000, far less than 10 percent of Dallas office employees stayed in the job for six months, and “most did not even complete their training period, but quit within a few days or weeks of being hired,” according to the NLRB.

    During the Clinton administration, the Labor Department accused ACORN arm Citizens Consulting Inc. of failing to pay workers overtime.

    Kettenring had no immediate information about the outcome of either case.

    Those cases drew little attention. Not so the embezzlement scandal.

    Kettenring confirmed that Wade Rathke’s brother, Dale Rathke, stole around $948,000 from the organization in 1999 and 2000, and that Wade Rathke became aware of it in 2000 but told only a few people. It wasn’t reported to law enforcement authorities.

    Dale Rathke was removed from a leadership position in 2000. He and Wade Rathke were fired last year, and an anonymous donor compensated ACORN for the missing money, Kettenring said.

    Two then-board members sued in August 2008, accusing Wade Rathke of concealing or failing to properly report the embezzlement.

    Wade Rathke told AP last October that he took responsibility for his brother’s “mistakes” by resigning in June 2008 as ACORN’s chief organizer. ACORN removed the two board members who sued. Lewis said they had violated the group’s code of conduct and were “aggressively trying to distract the organization from its core mission.”

    Wade Rathke said last fall that he remained chief organizer for ACORN International. Kettenring said the two organizations have no relationship, and that ACORN insisted that Rathke’s group change its name. Rathke’s group is now known as Community Organizations International, Kettenring said.

    Rathke has said that he intended to resolve his brother’s embezzlement with “private restitution.” Reporting the case to police could have put ACORN at risk of financial ruin, Rathke said.

    “One choice would have been to go that way,” he said in the 2008 interview, “but then we wouldn’t have been able to collect that money.”

    ___

    Associated Press writers Kevin Freking in Washington and Michael Gormley in Albany, N.Y., contributed to this report.

  • Obsessing over ACORN – which nobody except FOX viewers cares about and which is a minimalist “scandal” compared a dozen that erupted under the Bush adminsitration – is proof of terminal partisan idiocy. You guys are exhausted and just pissed off about marginal shit because you’re living in a political nursing home. I might add that strong health insurance reform would add significant value to the economy over the coming decades because more money would be available for investment than feeding the overhead of insurers and profit-oriented providers. “Look over there, ACORN!” is the mronic bastion of political and social retards who have absolutely nothing to contribute. Just more bullshit from burnouts. Losers…

  • I also have to say that I think it’s telling how sexual and graphic your sleazy comments get – both Misfire’s and Woody’s – involving things like child molestation, the dreaded “gay” that apparently haunts little men such as yourselves, and your gang rape, fantasizing about “sliding out” of mothers, etc.

    Your minds are cesspools and you’re clearely slogging along in life mired in your own shit. Really ugly, nasty, ignorant “men” with some very frayed nerves around sexuality.

  • If nobody but Fox news viewers care about ACORN, a corrupt organization tied to the president, then the other viewers need to wake up.

    That Reg doesn’t care is to be expected.

  • John Moore sat through 8 years of corruption, crackpot invasion resulting in hundreds of thousands of deaths and millions displaced, Abu Grahib, Blackwater, Halliburton and the rest and didn’t wet his Depends unitl a black guy got elected President who doesn’t pay any attention to idiots and a community organization hiring a few half-wits at $8 bucks an hour engages in some dubious conversations that result in exactly nothing actually being done that’s illegal – because I can guarantee there was no actual transaction and there will be no indictments based on those Halloween encounters.

    Nobody could be stupider, more hypocritical nor more laughably on the outskirts of contemporary America than the simpering, whining likes of Lame John Moore.

  • “reg, try running commerce without accounting, auditing, budgeting, and analyses…”

    Yeah, without accounting we wouldn’t know how to value the assets of our major financial institutions.

    Oh…wait a minute !!!

  • Obama is tied in many ways to ACORN, Reg is is apparently functionally retarded.

    You opened up long ago with the filthy verbage old man, now you want to cry foul?

    You’re laughable.

  • I’m not crying foul. I’m playing Freud. It’s pretty interesting.

    And the ACORN story is zilch. Nada. But run with it because you’re too fucking stupid to discuss anything more important with a grain of competence. You’re a jerked knee. Nothing more. You’ve got shit for brains and a piss-poor attitude. Too bad the taxpayers had to put up with such a loser.

  • Yeah, like all the investigations in the 20 some states for the voter fraud allegations are nada. How many different investigations need to be going on about an orginization before the light bulb comes on Snitch Reg and you think that something might actually be going on? One if it’s a cop shop and a thousand if it’s a group like ACORN I’d guess. My ACORN guess is probably a bit low and that light bulb probably went out a long time ago.

    You couldn’t play Freud if you tried, you can barely play Snitch Reg. You’re a big mouthed donk and I didn’t take shit from people like you on the street, or where I’m at now, and message boards are a lot safer. I left you behind in common sense and smarts long ago but you go ahead and defend your friends with your extremist b.s. that depends on grade school insults and blind obedience to the left. You are afraud dude, a big ass phony with no game.

    Facts to you are like kryptonite to Superman, now go post some more trash because that’s all you have. I’ll just sit back and watch ACORN get more and more bad press for their criminal ways.

    Thanks for all those tax dollars old man.

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