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  • Celeste, you get more and more pathetic. I didn’t see your mentioning Obama introducing Biden as the next President or Biden saying what the Biden administration would do. What do you and Marc Cooper do at night – decide how to attack the Republicans in similar ways? I hope Marc’s wife doesn’t feel left out.

  • Celeste, this new strategy by the Republicans doesn’t surprise me so much in view of recent events.
    McCain actually seems like a good guy, like some friends eccentric, rich, uncle who just likes to have a good time and is willing to share his yacht or ski chalet, or golf cart with the nephews ordinary people friends.

    So now as a slightly doddering old dude who’s attention span and recall are fading fast but with a shit load of money and still looking for a good time, McCain seems to be having second thoughts about this campaign for Presidency he’s found himself in.
    What with all the problems we face in this country, War, Financial turmoil, economic instability, divisiveness at an all time high, the old geezer must be thinking “why in the hell do I want to continue with this torture and the bleak outlook for the future?, hell I’m 75 years old and a rich man with 10 homes in all the nicest places of the country”.
    So now he’s taking a back seat to Sarah the barracuda who’s shown how ambitious she is ever since her TV sportscaster and Mayor of Wasilla days.
    I just don’t think old John’s got the heart for it anymore and is probably just thinking “How the hell did I ever get myself into this mess? And why would I want to spend the last years of my life trying to get the country out of this mess”?
    Sarah Palin on the other hand is ambitious and a mean motor scooter, we could end up with a de facto President Palin like Herr Cheney is to Dubya.

    Good column by Floyd Norris in the NY Times “Reckless? Your in Luck!”

    “”It did not occur to me that the Bush administration could change policy this rapidly.
    A few days ago, it was vowing to avoid bailouts. Lehman Brothers went down.
    Then it said it would bail out A.I.G., but that was an exception because it was absolutely necessary. Shareholders would be punished.
    Now it apparently will bail out everybody, whether they need it or not. Stock markets around the world are soaring.
    The government will offer retroactive insurance to money market funds to assure they don’t lose money on the risky assets they bought.
    Calling it insurance is a great idea. Think of the suffering that could have been avoided in New Orleans if the government had offered retroactive flood insurance after Katrina hit””

    I wonder what President Sarah would do about this current financial meltdown?

  • As you noted, Palin is looking more and more presidential.
    No one seemed to blink when she said it.

    For some reason it sounds more believable than a Bidden / Obama administration.

  • Not to worry, Woody, Marc’s wife is orchestrating the whole thing. We are but puppets. (Hey, you didn’t think we were smart enough to come up with our pathetic lock-step attacks on our own, did you?)

  • Much more bizarre than this was the convoluted, nonsensical answer Palin gave to a question about domestic oil production at a town hall meeting yesterday – she’s completely incoherent when she meanders off of her pre-digested talking points.

  • “She who must not be named?” Aren’t you getting over the top here, showing signs of desperation-induced Hyperbole Disease? The woman may be no Hillary (who you don’t like, either) but she’s no Ahmedadinajad/ nutjob, either, and certainly not the guys kind of mismanaging N. Korea or Zimbabwe, either. If it’s a real Wicked Witch you want, however, I offer up Nancy Pelosi, who couldn’t bear the thought of Hillary being a woman higher up than she is, so she sabbotaged the best hope of the party and country for some untested leftist who’d spent us into financial ruin. (Even more than Bush the corporate, free-trade, open borders, meddle-where-you’re-not-wanted internationalist has already.)

  • “Aren’t you getting over the top here, showing signs of desperation-induced Hyperbole Disease?”

    Yeah, probably. More irritable and fearful than desperate, though. (Better today. Sleep helps.)

    Don’t get this: “so she sabbotaged the best hope of the party and country for some untested leftist who’d spent us into financial ruin.”

    Who spent us into fiancial ruin? Or was that meant to be “spend”?

  • Yeah, meant future tense/ would spend.

    Get some sleep! If it’s any consolation, Palin’s “curiosity bump” is going back down, just like Obama’s (much longer-lived one) did earlier, so people are now ready to focus on issues. But (to make you sleepless again) right now, the economy trumps foreign policy, and McCain has an edge there. Even “the Trump Donald,” who’d supported Hillary, is switching to McCain, fearful that Obama’s massive taxation would harm the economy at an already weak time.

    So it’s looking more like McPalin will get in with their yearning for a return to Reagonomics — we’ll just have to get used to the U.S. being hated through another Republican administration. One thing Obama would bring to the table is more foreign optimism that American will turn away from its myopic, simplistically idealistic view of the world — but it’s Americans, not the French or Iranians, who’ll vote.

  • reg, say “hi” to your friend I’m-a-nut-job over there in I-Ran. Maybe Palin’s a foreign policy dummy, but not as much as you (on that, the economy or anything) and certainly, not as verbosely, mind-numbingly, naively but arrogantly mired in 60’s socialistic failed ideals, disastrously idiotic. (And that’s NOT Hyperbolic Disease, for the record, just fact.)

  • “Obama’s massive taxation”

    Total fabrication – Obama offers more people tax cuts than McCain – 90% of working families (which might not be feasible anymore but would certainly add more stimulus than McCain’s gift to the wealthy.) Did “Clinton’s massive taxation” harm the eonomy ? Of course not.

  • Woody, you’re a child – a narcissistic little runt who just needs to jump up and down to get attention. Go watch some of the juvenile shit on TV that occupies most of your brain.

  • There’s no way Obama could begin to deliver his massively expensive social programs, each costing billions, while taxing only the top 5-10% more (a percentage and income-level which keeps moving in any case). No way can he reduce taxes for 90% in the process — although since some 40-45% pay very little or no taxes, they would likely benefit. From the Donald to Woody, anyone who can do a little math and has a modicum of common sense can see how absurd Obama’s economic “vision” is — he is NO Bill Clinton when it comes to taxes or finding common ground between business and social agendas on issues like healthcare. Clinton also inherited a vastly different economy and a different world; this is the worst time for massive taxation and business-killing social agendas.

    Your math makes as much sense as Celeste’s social policy of opening our arms to all illegals from Latin America and turning gangbangers into fine, upstanding citizens who are a net social and economic benefit, with massive infusions of poetry and of course, money, by raising taxes on law-abiding legal residents and citizens.

  • “massive taxation”

    As I said, you’re a flaming idiot who spouts nostrums as fact.

    I have no idea how much you paid for your vaunted “education”, but it did little or no good because you don’t have even a minimal predisposition to argue from evidence.

    Utterly self-absorbed twit. The “narcissism” of the ’60s generation doesn’t even begin to match you lame self-absorption and echo-chamber mindset.

  • UFO witness claims harassment
    By ANGELIA JOINER Staff Writer
    September 20, 2008 7:00AM PST
    Woody is frustrated and a little angry.

    Since his interview with the Associated Press, Woody has stayed quiet regarding the daytime UFO sightings on his property.

    And, there is more than one reason for his silence.

    Woody believes military officials have been harassing him by flying military aircraft over his property at low altitudes, at all hours of the day and night. Woody runs livestock on his place and said the cattle don’t react well to the disturbances. It’s also been hard to get any sleep.

  • “The Donald”, of course, is a paragon of responsible, non-debt leveraged productive capitalist economics.

    Question: Who do Warren Buffet and Bill Gates support ? Who does Joseph Stiglitz support ? Who does Paul Volcker support ? Even Alan Greenspan has called McCain’s tax plan irresponsible (althought I’m sure he also criticizes Obama’s economic plan.) The point is, these glib, ill-informed opinions expressed above are meaningless and, frankly, embarrassing.

  • T. Boone Pickens has met with both Obama and McCain to discuss alternative energy — he’s “a long-time Republican strategist” who (in)famously helped undermine Kerry by financing the Swift Boat campaign, but his opposition to our reliance on foreign oil and plans for solar and other “green” energy are more in sync with Obama and the Democratic Party’s. He’s made it clear that he’s working in a bipartisan way to promote his OWN “Pickens Plan,” not the platform of the Democratic Party — he’s trying to nudge the Republicans toward a more forward-thinking attitude on this issue. Otherwise he does not endorse Obama’s economic policy and remains a Republican.

    Pickens is among the most common-sense, least dogmatic of the billionaires. (Your typical gibberish on the Donald, and his purported “non-debt leveraged productive capitalist economics,” shows the weird leftist strictures of your mind’s filtration processes that bear no serious discussion. He made a statement about his view of what would best stimulate vs. further hurt the economy, and egotistical jerk that he is like all of them, he says what he believes without regard for having to model some sort of PC liberal guilt pose for having made more money than he could ever blow through in a lifetime. Like Gates, who’s expressed marvel and guilt over his ridiculous amount of wealth which is so much, he feels it would harm his own kids to come into much of it. Like that’s a Point of View that the country can relate to.)

  • As for Alan Greenspan, his lack of timely action is being widely blamed around the world for the current U.S. meltdown — see today’s LATimes Business section, recent Wall St. J., the Economist, etc.

  • I know about T. Boone Pickens. So what’s your point, other that you don’t have an economic clue in your addled brain ?

    No responsible or knowledgeable person would consider Donald Trump a fountain of economic wisdom – he’s in the game because of his dad and he had to be bailed out, massively, by his bankers after financing projects with junk bonds, among other things – yet you put him forward as a determining voice in this election.

  • I’ll say this: the sheer nastiness, vile and hateful vitriol that’s come out of you, Marc Cooper toward Hillary (though he had to tone it down for the Weekly and still more for HuffPo) and other “supporters” of Obama is what’s really disturbing. There’s a literally sociopathic, unhinged element to you people — that Celeste is beginning to show with this post of “she who must not be named.” (But it’s uncharacteristic for her.) You’re proud of your nastiness, lack of education and vulgarity as some sort of proof of populism, but tout Obama’s “elitist” creds in lieu of substance or experience. For the likes of you, politics takes the place of much-needed therapy; it gives you what you think is a socially acceptable outlet to be abusive. Plus you put the dogma of wealth redistribution ahead of economic incentives at every step; one minute you admit that’s the “progressive” agenda, which people would be voting for with their eyes open — next, try to deny that it involves massive tax increases.

    You don’t realize that although many people like myself disagree with McPalin’s social agenda and have doubts about two academic underachievers with either no or very narrow foreign experience running the country, the voodoo economics that Obama’s miracles are predicated on, sold to us by the presumed sheer force of his personality (that Che- like Stalinistic postar image of himself captured that perfectly) advocated by hateful people like you who others shun in any civilized public space, makes for one repellent package. Your kind has probably turned off more indie voters and Hillary supporters than you would ever admit. When the election is over, will you finally get therapy, or keep projecting onto some other issue, some other enemy?

  • “Celeste, you get more and more pathetic…”

    What’s up with all this negativity Woody? Let’s get positve, folks. We live in a beautiful world! There are billions upon billions of beautiful, spiritual people in the world just waiting to do good if only “we” would show them the way. Let’s start showing the way rather than discussing incredulous Obama assassination plots.

  • FF, your advice didn’t seem to work — true to form, reg can’t get out one nasty sentence without the f word. A sad little man indeed. (reg, FF is right that spewing venom instead of inspiring potentially “billions upon billions of beautiful, spiritual people” by “showing the way” towards the positive possibilities of Obama’s visions of hope and change is not what He would want you to do! You are not doing His work, reg!)

    Franklin Raines and James Johnson = 2 exex running Fannie Mae and Mac last decade, involved in the meltdowns but made huge amounts of money themselves; advisors to Obama. His campaign has been the 2nd biggest recipient of F Mae/Mac contributions after Chris Dodd. Meanwhile, McCain was warning back in 05 that these quasi-governmental regulatory agencies were only being made to appear successful behind a smokescreen put up by these men and their associates, that a meltdown was coming.

  • Palin Fires a Wife Beater

    Via the San Francisco Chronicle Monegan (Former Alaskan Public Safety Commissioner) admitted dislocating his wife’s shoulder “by accident” by “wrestling and tickling” her. His estranged wife, Georgene Moldovan, tells another story.

    Moldovan sought a restraining order against him in 1994 after he threatened to kill her, waved a gun at her and knocked her shoulder out of socket, according to court papers. The court papers say: “he pulled out his gun and waved it at me outside my home and yelled he would kill me if I stopped him.”

    Moldovan told the SF Chronicle that Monegan “would show up unannounced and break into my apartment and do threatening things. I was forced to get a restraining order because I was really fearful he was going to harm me.” She said he also threatened to throw her body into a cold, Alaskan river.

  • Oh God. The Franklin Raines lie about his being an advisor to Obama. And, of course, Johnson was let go as a VP vetter for conflicts of interest. You lying sack of… whatever.

    Meanwhile, the McCain campaign is being run by some of the top lobbyists to Fannie and Freddie. Rick Davis, his campaign manager, was the head of a major Fannie/Freddie lobbying group and at least 20 Fannie/Freddie lobbyists are staffing McCain/Palin.

    The pathologies on display by the anti-Obama wackjobs here are grotesque. What fucking good is an “elite education” if you can’t manage information or research on the most elementary level and have zero regard for truth ? (Oh, yeah. Ego massage. All important.)

    Also, the continuation of the Matier and Ross gossip that Pokey slings goes thus:

    Monegan denounced the allegations as “either half-truths or pure fabrications.” He points out that Moldovan made her accusations in the midst of a bitter fight over who would get the couple’s daughters.

    If any of the allegations had been documented, he said, he would have been fired from his Anchorage police job and never been hired by Palin as Alaska’s top cop in 2006.

    As for whether any of his own troubles might have clouded his judgment in dealing with Palin’s ex-brother-in-law amid his messy divorce, Monegan says no.

    “In a nutshell, I never have and I never will condone domestic violence,” he said.

    And while Monegan hasn’t spoken to his ex-wife in years, he says, he is still on very good terms with her first husband – Alaska’s U.S. attorney, Nelson Cohen. (end clip)

    Desperation is setting in. Apparently there’s some very interesting stuff about Palin and her troubled family in the current National Enquirer. Would be more than happy to dig it up if this is the game that’s being played.

    Meanwhile, here’s the best Palin profile I’ve seen to date – Phillip Gourevitch in the New Yorker has a piece that it appears he began researching BEFORE the Veep comedy began:

    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/09/22/080922fa_fact_gourevitch

  • Incidentally, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were not “regulatory agencies” – not even close. They were enterprises created by the government but independently operated to buy and sell mortgages in a secondary market – ostensibly to create greater liquidity in the primary housing market.

    “Elite education” strikes again…

  • WBC apologizing for supply side economics?
    “Plus you put the dogma of wealth redistribution ahead of economic incentives at every step; one minute you admit that’s the “progressive” agenda, which people would be voting for with their eyes open — next, try to deny that it involves massive tax increases.”

    Wealth redistribution? Shit with a trillion dollar bailout of these Monopoly Capitalist Robber Barons it sure strikes me as wealth redistribution, but wealth redistribution coming from the bottom of the pyramid up.

    Incentives? Incentives? We don’t need to show you any damn incentives!
    Here’s Bush and the Republicans bailing out the Robber Barons with at least a Trillion dollars of our (the ordinary people), money doesn’t sound like much of an incentive to conduct business as it should be conducted (you sink or swim!), in a free enterprise economic system.
    The Republican Party’s failed “Trickle Down” theory of economics worked well for the greedy corporate bullshiters that have utilized it (with no government regulations any more) to the max and got away with billions in bonus’s, golden parachutes, and just plain old chicanery.

    As a taxpayer that is going to have my money used to support this failed system I would like to have some of these Robber Barons prosecuted and put in jail, there must have been some crimes involved with so much money at stake.

    And isn’t it odd that so many Republicans nowadays never use the word Republican, or Neo Conservative, or wax poetic anymore about Friedman’s supply side economic theory that they once were so evangelic about.

    A person would have to be nuts to vote for another Republican Administration after the last eight years of disaster and shame and greed.
    Does anybody seriously think McSame and Palin are going to come to the countries rescue like a FDR or Teddy Roosevelt?

    They’re Republicans!

  • Muddleheads like WBC attempt to school others on Econ 101, using a torrent of cliches and nostrums that are generally evidence that these folks don’t have a clue. I have a sneaking suspicion this is a person who has never read Karl Polanyi’s economic history, and is utterly unfamiliar with the contemporary critiques of guys like Stiglitz, Bob Kuttner or even Kevin Phillips’ latest. That’s a suspicion borne by her reference to “The Donald” as some fountainhead of economic wisdom. The LALALands upper middle-class is a bastion of ignorance, narcissism and entitlement, unleavened by even an ounce of humility or capacity for embarrassment.

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