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My Space Suicide Verdict: Right or Wrong?

About the mother who participated in the MySpace bullying ruse that drove a teenage girl to suicide, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the majority of the jurors in the who heard the case, really, really, REALLY wanted to see her sorry butt locked up for a good long time.

The forewoman of the jury that convicted Lori Drew of misdemeanors for cyber bullying said Monday that a majority of the panel favored a felony conspiracy verdict that could have sent her to prison.

Most jurors believed a felony conviction would send a message that Internet sites should be better regulated for fraud, the forewoman, Valentina Kunasz, said in a telephone interview.

But four jurors would not be convinced, Kunasz said, blocking a felony verdict.

But in this morning’s editorial, the LA Times outlines why they think there should have ben no conviction.

Here’s the very end of the opinion piece.

As a group of technology advocates and law professors argued earlier this year, the prosecutors’ interpretation of Section 1030 would “criminalize the everyday conduct of millions of Internet users.” The government should be particularly wary when the allegedly criminal activity is speech, even when that speech leads to something as tragic as Megan’s death. Websites can and should do a better job of responding to cyber-bullying and other abuses of their terms of service, rather than relying on the federal government to do it for them. Wu reserved judgment when Drew’s lawyer asked him to acquit Drew of the charges before the jury began its deliberations. He should grant that motion now.

I agree with the LA times.

Unfortunately there’s no law against psychological reckless endangerment.

In this case, would that there were.

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  • I agree with EFF, and the LA Times. Lori Drew ought to have her head examined. And, if she were a responsible adult, she would enlist the services of a professional to help her sort out what dark corner of her psyche prompted the choices she made.

    Kudos to the four jurors who blocked the felony conviction. That’s a lot of group pressure to withstand. Wu should grant the motion to aquit.

    As for a law against psychological reckless endangerment on the internet, you’d have to eliminate adolescence. And, cyber trolls. One simply cannot know the psychological profile of one’s interlocutor. And, while I entertain myself speculating on the emotional maturity and stability of some, I’d genuinely rather not know. It is as that cartoon from The New Yorker, On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a dog.

  • “psychological reckless endangerment” – I hadn’t thought of that term.

    When one person drives another to commit suicide, there should be serious consequences. That person caused another to act criminally, and, suicide is a crime, although never prosecuted, of course.

    I’m not going to try to analyze it, but it seems that this could be compared to the the Manson murders, in which one drove others to commit murder through psychological influence. Maybe a closer analogy is Jim Jones. (“Hey, I just poured the Kool Aid. They drank it.”)

    I’d like to know what was in the heads of the four hold-outs. Maybe they got sucked into the phoniness of “12 Angry Men” and considered themselves noble.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if there wasn’t a civil suit to follow this, ala O.J.

  • I agree with the Times on this one as well. To hold Drew accountable for murder “to set an example” as the majority of jurors wanted, when they know that many others commit far worse internet bullying, would not only have a chilling effect on speech but be extremely selective and arbitrary application of law. Not even application, but setting a precedent in law.

    Like the Times says, millions of users would be guilty of internet fraud if all those kids on MySpace or adults who fudged facts were held guilty — usually there’s no harm, e.g., I think of the movie Must Love Dogs where Diane Lane ends up on a date with her own father because he lied about his age.

    Frankly no one should be OGLIGED to reveal their actual age and date of birth and it should in fact be illegal to have it revealed without their permission as a matter of privacy, not to mention it facilitates ID theft and all kinds of nuisances. Most people don’t even know how banks and other institutions post this data online without their knowledge. Our officials even encourage this, by now letting pharmacies sell your personal RX data to drug companies and other healthcare vendors: without telling us.
    Using pseudonyms and fake addresses is even recommended for kids to avoid online predators.

    What Drew did here was cruel and irresponsible, ethically corrupt. Since her intent was clearly to be hurtful, she violated the site agreement — but then, what about what goes on in blogs all the time, where personal invectives, among anons and pseudonyms, are the order of the day? Even on this blog, what if woody did himself in with a woodsaw next time reg hurls invectives at him and invites him to do so? (We know this is hypothetical because the two of them keep going at it, but theoretically…)

    Kids say far more cruel things to and about each other on websites all the time, often sent out to the general public, yet that’s been ruled not illegal. E.g. a case in Beverly Hills where some middle school girls filmed themselves on cellphone saying nasty things about a classmate and putting it on YouTube, obviously causing great emotional distress. Yet the school did not have the right to suspect them for something done off-campus, and there are apparently no laws against it. THAT kind of thing SHOULD be generally illegal: posting something to defame someone.

    This case’s ambiguities point up that regulation of the net, and balancing intent to harm against the First Amendment, lags behind the technology, as in many tech areas.

  • Good points all.

    (And I don’t really mean I’d want a law against psychological endangerment. Those are my feelings speaking, not my head.)

    Love that New Yorker cartoon, Listner. Can’t remember if I ever clipped it. It’s still one of the funniest in a long while.

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