SHOULD SEX OFFENDERS BE BARRED FROM CHURCH?
That’s the question that Time Magazine and a convicted sex offender name John Nichols and his attorney are asking. Here are clips from the Time story.
North Carolina is a proud member of the so-called Bible Belt of states that take their religion seriously. So some eyebrows were raised when James Nichols was arrested for attending church.
His offense? Nichols, a convicted sex offender, had chosen to worship at a church that has a nursery where kids play while their parents pray. Now Nichols, 31, who only recently got out of prison, is fighting back, challenging the legality of a new law that took effect in December prohibiting registered sex offenders from coming within 300 ft. — nearly a football field’s length — of any facility devoted to the use, care or supervision of minors.
LAPD’S NEW HEADQUARTERS STILL NEEDS A SNAZZY NEW NAME
The new headquarters for the Los Angeles Police Department is open for business even if every single person isn’t yet moved out of the old and into the new.
But, while there is more boxing, packing and unpacking ahead, the so-called Police Administration Building has at least already had its literary debut. (It is featured in Nine Dragons, the new Michael Connelly novel released earlier this week.)
The official dedication ceremony will be later this month.
In the meantime, the LA Times’ Patt Morrison gives a nice little run down about some of the building’s featires. But she also makes the point that the new LAPD building needs a name. I agree. And it shouldn’t be the Police Administration Building.
She writes:
C’mon, LA — New York has ”One Police Plaza,” and even though it sounds like a name dreamed up by a studio production design team, it’s a whole lot better than ”police headquarters.”
Mayor Tom Bradley was a cop himself, but with his war with Chief Daryl Gates during his mayorship, he’s too contentious a figure to have his name on the LAPD’s building. ”Parker Center” is out of the question; the city would sooner name its new edifice after Pretty Boy Floyd. It’s possible that in time, the city might name the building after Bratton, but I expect City Hall is pretty wary of going that route.
In the meantime, you know that if the city doesn’t come up with a name, Angelenos will, on their own, find some nickname, and nicknames, once they stick, are almost impossible to get un-stuck.
Suggestions?
Well???
THE DAMAGE WROUGHT BY ZERO TOLERANCE IN SCHOOLS
Friday’s NY Times has a good editorial on the abuses of over-the-top Zero Tolerance policies.
Here are clips:
Zachary Christie is back in his first-grade class. Delaware’s largest public school district has rescinded its order to punish him (and send him to a disciplinary school) after he came to class with a Cub Scout camping utensil that contained a small foldout knife.
This was a painful experience for the 6-year-old, and we are relieved that the school district has now amended its overly zealous disciplinary code. But far too many other communities are inflicting even greater damage on young children: handcuffing them or shipping them off to juvenile court for getting into minor skirmishes or for being unruly or disobedient at school.
In 1994, Congress required states to pass laws mandating expulsion for students who bring firearms onto school property. But many states overreacted and began to criminalize minor offenses.
More here.
PRISON TEACHERS GETTING LAID OFF (NATURALLY)
Since no one else has the good sense to make a fuss about the state’s absurdly penny-wise-and-pound-foolish plans to lay off around 800 teachers and support staff in California’s prisons, members of Service Employees International Union Local 1000 are doing their best to call attention to the stupidity of cutting or reducing programs that are proven to help prisoners stop returning to prison (thereby saving WAY more money than could possibly be saved by cutting the teachers).
The Fresno Bee has the story.
(Jerry Brown and protesting against insurance companies—after the jump.)
TAKING IT TO THE STREETS WITH BLUE SHIELD
Chanting “patients not profits,” protesters from a group called Mobilize for Health Care attempted to enter the lobby of a Blue Cross office in downtown LA. When the police barred the protesters at the office door, they sat down in a circle in front of the entrance.
Several of those involved with the protest talked about serious conditions that their insurers had suddenly declined to cover.
According to Mobilize for Health Care, These sit-ins are part of a national mobilization involving rallies and acts of civil disobedience at health insurance company offices in New York, Washington, Phoenix, Palm Beach, Portland, Boston, Cleveland, Los Angeles, and Reno.
Around a dozen people were arrested in LA’s protest, and several dozen more in other cities.
JERRY BROWN USES AN ANTI TRUST SETTLEMENT TO PAY FOR PUBLIC CONCERTS
In 2003, the California AG’s office (pre-Jerry) settled an antitrust case against five of the country’s largest music CD distributors and three national retail chains. The suit contended that the distributors et all, had entered illegal agreements with each for the purpose of price fixing.
After the settlement was approved by the courts, 665,000 music CDs worth $9 million were distributed to public schools, colleges and libraries. Then after the cash part of settlement was distributed to plaintiffs, $549,000 remained. So Attorney General Jerry Had an idea. He partnered with the California Arts Council to establish a one-time music grant for 42 local arts organizations to give free public concerts.
“Music has a universal appeal, bringing people together and creating a community spirit,” Brown said. “Through these concerts, we hope to bring a small measure of joy into local communities and encourage cultural development.”
Cool.
For a list of the various grantees and their future concerts, click here.
PS: While not social justice related, there’s a very cool series of photos of a white shark leaping out of the water, that were snapped on Saturday right off the beach across from Sunset Blvd. Interesting—and a little nervous making.
The police building doesn’t need a snazzy name. But, I’d call it something like “Office of Immigration and Deportation” to identify what should be a primary mission.
Where’s the justice? This car thief, caught in the act, was let go!
Of course, the “Bratton Building” has a nice ring to it, in light of how he’s restored the shine to the LAPD “brand,” in image as well as fact. But probably won’t happen with Parks still there and Smith, some of the others who “have the knives out” for him (phrasing courtesy of the Patrick Range McDonald article, L A Weekly). So maybe it’s best to give it a temp name until a little time passes, cooler heads prevail, and some local political pettiness gives way to the broader perspective that the rest of the country and his colleagues all have. In the long run, it would benefit L A to have his name associated with the city to mark the period when we came to respect rather than resent or fear the LAPD. That would remain a reminder of the standard to uphold.
The next person the LAPD gets caught beating should sue to have the building named after them. The Rodney King building has a nice ring to it.
Woody, it’s just a car. More and more Americans are losing their cars because they can’t afford them. Nobody cares that somebody’s car’s getting stolen. It’s just one of those things that happens. People just need to buy a club, or something. It’s not a terrorist attack.
Sure, Norwaiquero, it’s easy for you to say that a stolen car is “one of those things,” but what the police had to do to retrieve it was un-bearable.
The Rodney King Detention Center del Pueblo de Los Angeles would be fine.
The entrance should have a ten foot statue of King with open arms, to greet it’s visitors and guests. And the Pièce de résistance would be a retired CHP cruiser permanently parked atop a high concrete pedestal.
I sure don’t want a slobbering bear fogging up all the windows in my car… and the bad breath… gag me with a spoon Woody.
Name it after a true hero.
Officer Randal Simmons Plaza.
By the way, good reasons for the North Carolina law but Nichols got shafted.
if you want to talk about social justice maybe a thread dedicated to actual NFL owners who have made racist comments or whose peersona conduct should have been looked into by the head man as compared to the lies posted about Limbaugh’s comments, a guy who was going to be only a minoriy owner.
Of course the left just loves being able to shut a conservative out while not engaging in any type of conversation regarding the actions of liberal owners. The left is attempting to shut down conservative thought all over the nation and in being so blatant about it awakening a force that’s going to make you wish you had played fair.
Personal…before Reg tries to correct me.
Woody,
Great post about the bear, I was LMFAO. The Catholic Church should have bears to keep all the child molesting priests out.
Suggestions for the new LAPD HQ:
Antonio Villaraigossa Detention Center (double entendre intended)
Hall of Shame (as long as City Hall gives up all claims to their name)
Jack Webb Center
Sure Fire, I know you’re kind of slow but Limbuagh being dropped was not a liberal conspiracy. It was a private ordeal. He’s too controversial for the NFL, and his partners didn’t want to try to get the team having him around to hold them back. It was a business decision. Limbaugh is not good for NFL business. Drop the victim mentality.
Last thing I am is slow Noridiot. Your arrogant comment is just more weak ass bs from the Reg school of posting. A business decision my ass.
No liberals put pressure on the NFL to axe Rush? Put down the pipe dude, this was pure politics by the crazy left and people caved. Limbaugh is good for business wherever he is, he’s a lightning rod that gets libs drooling on themselves and they can’t get enough of him. Do you think football fans would boycot because Al or Jesse said so? The NFL would not have lost one viewer or one penny because of any involvement he would have had. More people would have showed at games just to boo his ass, that’s money in not money out. Hell Reg would have started going to games. Rush would, as always, be good for business.
How many convicted felons are in the league now and nobody cares? I’ll bet all the PETA people are still watching and would if Vick had a dog bbq, it just doesn’t matter to the vast majority of fans. People are still going to watch and Rush being an owner wouldn’t have changed that. Did people stop watching The Cincinatti Reds when Schott owned it, not even a little. Rush is not close to Schott in what either actually said, not on the same planet.
(There can be no argument that Marge Schott and her business skills helped the Cincinnati Reds recover from one of their biggest slumps—in terms of both finances and morale—ever. In a statement released after the sale of the Reds was finalized, new owner Lindner said of Schott: “I’ve known her for a long time, including her many years as an owner of the Reds. She has always kept the fans first in her mind. For that, all of Cincinnati should thank her and join me in wishing her the very best.” Unfortunately, much of the good Schott accomplished may eventually be forgotten in the shadow of some of the insensitive remarks attributed to her over the years.
Read more: http://sports.jrank.org/pages/4304/Schott-Marge-Born-in-Cincinnati.html#ixzz0UBH9lkSa)
How much reporting did you see with J.Lo’s liberal use of the “n” word in song lyrics, she’s a part owner right? How about when Venus went crazy on the line judge, she’s a part owner right? How about when Fergie peed on stage, she’s another part owner. Any of these antics upset any of those oh so sensitive types like Sharpton and Jackson? Or how about Goodell, he say anything about the actions of these people, hell no, because nobody cared. Now if those were conservative folk, well that would be a different deal.
The message being sent is that liberals can act like assholes, or use actual racist language but conservatives are held to a different standard where no proof has to even be present. People just have to be told it’s true and their dumb asses will spout off and act all upset, but only for awhile. It would all blow over quickly and people would be in front of their tv’s without missing a beat and you know it.
So don’t play your lame ass “bad for business” card it’s total b.s. This is all about conservative vs liberal thought period.
Norwalquero = StillnoScript AKA RobThomas AKA GUST AKA GavaJoe etc… Don’t be fooled, new name same liberal blah blah blah.
I think this is surefire’s greatest work to date. A full embrace of the Great Conservative Whine in the name of the Rushbo, perhaps “conservativism’s” least appealing figure. I salute you. We all salute you.
I love Surefire defending a lying, racist POS like Limbaugh. Shows his colors. This is, incidentally, indicative of the Cry Baby syndrome among the “tough guys” of the wing-nut right. I’m laughing. Doesn’t deserve any other response. Beautiful stuff.
“conservative thought” – an oxymoron in the Limbaugh world of “conservatism.” Wing-nuts love liars and live off of white resentment.
And Surefire’s right – Limbaugh was targeted. I’m proud that he was targeted and jubilant his fat, ugly, drug-addicted, lying ass was shot down publicly. Ironic that this is one addict, a narcissistic pig who put his employee up to criminal activity to feed his addiction, who Surefire is pleasuring in these threads – while our Crime Buster accuses anyone who disagrees with him on issues of “being on crack.” As for his comments regarding other NFL owners, sounds like the old “snitch” routine to me.
Also Surefire, don’t bother parsing which quotes of Limbaugh’s are “rumor” – the “slavery” quote as example – because there is enough well-documented and serial race-obsessed shit spewed from the mouth of this bigoted blowhard to render your weak defense and cry-baby bout absurd.
Incidentally, if Limbaugh is dead certain that “slavery” quote is fabricated, he should sue Jack Huberman who first put it to print for libel – especially since his defenders are using this as the “lie” that sank his NFL bid.
He won’t. Probably because if “Rush Limbaugh” never said it, you can bet more than pocket change that “Jeff Christie” (aka DrugRushLimbo before our fatboy was beloved for his deep “conservative thoughts”), who told the black caller to “take the bone out of your nose,” did make some such comment. Sue Huberman or quit whining !
Anybody we know ?
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/democracy-corps-republican-base-voters-living-in-another-world.php
“awakening a force that’s going to make you wish you had played fair”
Bring it on! You’ll wish you had remembered to take your fucking meds.
Annals of An Awakening Force #1
Pastor Martin Neimolle – who was imprisoned by Hitler (the REAL one, not the Halfricanâ„¢ one in the White House) would be defending Rush Limbaugh, because…you know…liberal fascists are coming for ALL Americans. Or something…
http://www.redstate.com/tsquare/2009/10/14/tonight…-we-are-all-rush-limbaugh/
This is vile for someone who obviously has no love for minorities to decide that it’s time to make some money off them. I am not conservative or liberal but the main problem i have with conservatives is there is no issue that affords a negative commentary with regard to minorities that they don’t play hop a long cassidy on, pouring more gasoline on any skin color fire. Limbaugh has been right there and personally I would choose to lose a great job if he was my boss. I just couldn’t look at those lying hypocritical eyes every morning. Yuck Yuck Yuck.
Limbaugh doesn’t have a prayer of holding ownership in the Rams. Jerry Jones will scuttle any chances of that happening. Jones doesn’t want the competition that Limbaugh would bring to the owners’ spotlight. But there is a redeeming factor at play here ~ voting against Rush would be the ONLY thing JJ has done right since he bought the Cowboys, excluding Jimmy Johnson who got a lot of that spotlight and Jerry was tormented by it.
First response, more later. I’ll bet Rush proves what he’s saying. Character assasination is a hobby for the left.
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Limbaugh is, understandably, on the war path because the smear of racism is one is very, very difficult to wipe clean:
When race is brought into it, that you can’t let stand. I mean, if you, if people are trying to destroy your reputation and your credibility, your life, and your career by attacking you as a racist, then you have to stand up and, like that.
Now we are in the process behind the scenes working to get apologies and retractions, with the force of legal action, against every journalist who has published these entirely fabricated quotes about me, slavery, and James Earl Ray.
I never said them. We have tracked them. We know where they came from. We don’t know the identity, but we know where they came from – a single blogger who posted the stuff on my Wikipedia page and Wikiquotes, unsourced.
Wikipedia says, ‘Well, this is in dispute.’ It’s not in dispute. They were never uttered. I never said them. And I’ve even told reporters I never said them.
Seven serial posts in a row from a serial commenter. Nice, reg.
If Rush never said “Take the bone out of your nose!” or slandered black QBs we can talk! You’re a racist piece of garbage, Rushbo.
Misfire loves him some drug addicts !
Joseph Goebbels never said, “If you keep repeating the Big Lie, it becomes Truth.” Total misquote. “Boo-fucking-hoo” for Goebbels. The liberal media slandered the guy.
Defend racist Garbage Woody! Show some fucking backbone, you little whining coward.
Surefire – defending Limbaugh on the basis of “character assassination” proves you’re beyond help. Total fucking piece of shit, climbing out of the sewer to comment here.
Limbaugh on a recent event of violence on a bus: “We need segregated buses — it was invading space and stuff. This is Obama’s America.”
Sick fuck. Defend this pathological bastard – please. It proves what garbage you are.
More of this witless tool – boo-fucking-hoo, he’s so misunderstood:
LIMBAUGH: If homosexuality being inborn is what makes it acceptable, why does racism being inborn not make racism acceptable? I’m sorry — I mean, this is the way my mind works. But apparently now we don’t choose racism, we just are racists. We are born that way. We don’t choose it. So shouldn’t it be acceptable, excuse — this is according to the way the left thinks about things.
Proving DrugRushLimbo is a racist fucktard is way too easy. Toss me something that takes more than a couple of minutes…
Excuse me? Guest of honor, what do you know about me? I post under one name and one name only. You can come to Norwalk and meet me if you think I’m anyone else.
Rush Limbaugh is living proof that Hitler and Porky Pig mated.
SureFire, the NFL owners are known for being conservative, so is Roger Goodell, who has an elected Republican in his family, if I’m not mistaken. Conservatives rejected Limbaugh. If you’re talking about facing pressure from fans and players, well, it just goes to show that conservatives aren’t exactly popular in America right now. It’s not 2004.
Responding to a idiot like Reg isn’t going to happen, nice friend Celeste.
More in line with what I posted is the example below. The bottom line, and anyone with any sense of integrity knows it, is there’s a different standard for racist comments attributed to conservatives to liberals same as Whites to Blacks, Asians or latino. That goes for evidence these comments were even made in the first place.
It is what it is, that’s the rule and I didn’t come up with it people like Reg and anyone who thinks like him did.
Media ‘Whiteout’ Racist Bryant Gumbel Remark
By Greg Sheffield (Bio | Archive)
February 20, 2006 – 12:24 ET
Mainstream media coverage of Bryant Gumbel’s denigrating remark on the racial makeup of the Winter Olympcs has been scant. The host of HBO’s “Real Sports With Bryant Gumbel” said:
“Try not to laugh when someone says these are the world’s greatest athletes, despite a paucity of blacks that makes the Winter Games look like a GOP convention.”
Gumbel’s statement on white athletes is more direct than Rush Limbaugh’s statement about black quarterbacks in 2003, when discussing black Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb. Said Limbaugh on ESPN:
“The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn’t deserve. The defense carried this team.”
Bryant Gumbel’s remark has not made it onto any news shows of the Big Three networks, while Rush Limbaugh’s remark made it onto all three evening news shows. The only Gumbel mention by a TV network other than Fox News was a CNN segment called “Showbiz Tonight,” relegating the story to celebrity gossip.
On October 1, 2003 all three evening news shows reported on the Limbaugh controversy.
ABC’s Peter Jennings:
“We’re going to take A Closer Look tonight at the latest controversy fostered by what someone said on television about race. In this case, Rush Limbaugh’s remarks about the NFL quarterback Donovan McNabb of the Philadelphia Eagles.”
CBS’s Dan Rather:
“Radio star Rush Limbaugh’s comments about Philadelphia Eagle Donovan McNabb brought calls today for ESPN to fire the self-described conservative commentator.”
NBC’s Tom Brokaw:
“In Washington, the big controversy these days is the leak about the CIA agent. In Philadelphia and throughout the sports-writing world tonight, the big issue is Rush as in Rush Limbaugh.”
Even Howard Stern was willing to discuss Bryant Gumbel’s remark, saying that he thought Gumbel himself was white.
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Argue all you want people but Gumbel’s remarks were flat out racist and he’s still all over the place and has his own sports show.
Norwaiquero, talk to me in 2010 and 2012, FOX’s ratings are going through the roof unlike any other networks and the lack of “popularity” you speak of is old news, not current.
Gumbel being around and having access to any NFL player at any time bothering any owners? What he said is old news and Norwaquero your remarks show that you’re ok with a double standard, like I said have fun with it for another year.
I guess if Robert Byrd and Cynthia McKinney had mated Reg would have been the result.
Reg is agossip and hasn’t proved a thing, typical snitch just like he said he was.
I’m out of town taking a break. Behave everybody. You should be watching the Angels and Yankees not calling each other names about RL. Better use of time.
Okay, spoke too soon.
Name calling might be better than the game outcome.
So would all you libs be Ok with Jamie Foxx being an owner? Remember the episode with Michael Richards at a comedy club going racist on a couple of hecklers? Foxx threatened to kick his ass if he ever ran into him, said he might want to get his own private island.
Foxx made his own racist and way over the line comments about Miley Cyrus not to long ago. Like Richards he apologized. Think the players union or asshole commentators would have a problem with Foxx?
That union pres by the way, a defense attorney, contributor to Demoratic causes and Obama supporter.
Unlike Reg i look at each issue befor I coment as shown by post 10 on this thread. I could post countless examples of racist quotes by people you all adore that actually have places you can authenticate them.
I don’t think that’s going to happen with Rush. What’s Reg’s answer if Rush had been slandered..sue. Were you a lawyer Reg, like the spineless nfl union hack? Never said what you did, and I’ve asked. No backbone Reg should be your new name whose answer is ….sue.
I haven’t verified George Soros is part of the group that droppes Limbaugh it but will post this and one other item on the matter. Soros would be OK with his past? Oh yeah and Soros is personal friends with the union head.
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This is the relevant portion of the transcript (from the 20 December 1998 broadcast of 60 Minutes):
Quote:
KROFT: (Voiceover) To understand the complexities and contradictions in his personality, you have to go back to the very beginning: to Budapest, where George Soros was born 68 years ago to parents who were wealthy, well-educated and Jewish.
When the Nazis occupied Budapest in 1944, George Soros’ father was a successful lawyer. He lived on an island in the Danube and liked to commute to work in a rowboat. But knowing there were problems ahead for the Jews, he decided to split his family up. He bought them forged papers and he bribed a government official to take 14-year-old George Soros in and swear that he was his Christian godson. But survival carried a heavy price tag. While hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews were being shipped off to the death camps, George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews.
(Vintage footage of Jews walking in line; man dragging little boy in line)
KROFT: (Voiceover) These are pictures from 1944 of what happened to George Soros’ friends and neighbors.
(Vintage footage of women and men with bags over their shoulders walking; crowd by a train)
KROFT: (Voiceover) You’re a Hungarian Jew…
Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.
KROFT: (Voiceover) …who escaped the Holocaust…
(Vintage footage of women walking by train)
Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.
(Vintage footage of people getting on train)
KROFT: (Voiceover) … by — by posing as a Christian.
Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Right.
(Vintage footage of women helping each other get on train; train door closing with people in boxcar)
KROFT: (Voiceover) And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.
Mr. SOROS: Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that’s when my character was made.
KROFT: In what way?
Mr. SOROS: That one should think ahead. One should understand and — and anticipate events and when — when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a — a very personal experience of evil.
KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.
Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.
KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.
Mr. SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.
KROFT: I mean, that’s — that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?
Mr. SOROS: Not — not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t — you don’t see the connection. But it was — it created no — no problem at all.
KROFT: No feeling of guilt?
Mr. SOROS: No.
KROFT: For example that, ‘I’m Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.’ None of that?
Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I c — I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was — well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in markets — that if I weren’t there — of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would — would — would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the — whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the — I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.
From Moondogsports.com. Check out the last line Norwaiquero.
The NFL, The Rams, Limbaugh & Soros – What A Mess
Published by MoonDog on October 16, 2009
All of this nonsense about Rush Limbaugh’s involvement among a group of potential owners interested in buying the St. Louis Rams has me perplexed.
On Wednesday, Checketts announced his group would go forward with their plans sans Limbaugh, mostly as a result of the criticism he received regarding comments he made about Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb during his short-lived stint as an analyst on ESPN.
Limbaugh was also accused of making other racially divisive comments that haven’t been confirmed, but the controversy created enough of a distraction for Checketts to eliminate Limbaugh as a partner in the group’s venture.
Aside from all the back and forth going on about Limbaugh’s inclusion into the NFL’s ownership ranks, I couldn’t help but wonder why anyone would want to buy the Rams anyway.
Has Limbaugh seen the Rams play lately? In case he hasn’t – and I doubt that’s possible since he’s supposedly a big fan of the NFL – the Rams suck. They really suck.
A few weeks ago I thought the Cleveland Browns were the worst team in the NFL, but after seeing the Rams play I stand corrected.
I want to extend my apologies to the Browns organization for falsely accusing them of being the worst team in the league.
But forget about the Rams for a minute. Anyone having a desire to buy any NFL franchise in the foreseeable future is making a risky move.
With the NFL’s owners opting out of the league’s Collective Bargaining Agreement with the NFLPA in March 2008, the possibility exists of an uncapped season taking place in 2010.
If there is no agreement by March 2010, it will be the first season without a salary cap since 1993, when the first deal containing free agency and the cap was signed.
As if that wasn’t enough, the possibility of a lockout exists if the owners and players can’t come to terms on a new CBA before the 2011 season.
Why would anyone want to purchase a team and immediately have to deal with those issues?
George Soros
The Rams’ new owners wouldn’t even get a chance to threaten the fans with relocating the team because they’d be too busy dealing with the CBA.
Of course, no one is mentioning that George Soros, also part of the Checketts group and a man with a questionable past of his own, just happens to be friends with DeMaurice Smith, the executive director of the National Football League Players Association.
Soros has allegedly stated that if his group were successful in purchasing the Rams, a potential move from St. Louis is a real possibility.
If Limbaugh wants to complain about the treatment he got from the league and the many critics that lined up against him, that’s fine. But in reality, they probably did him a favor.
If commissioner Roger Goodell thought he was saving the NFL from criticism by failing to offer support of Limbaugh’s involvement to buy the Rams, he should take the same position with regard to Soros.
If Goodell doesn’t take that initiative, he of all people should know the voices from the political right will howl if Soros is allowed to remain as part of a potential ownership group.
How exactly does he know that? Goodell’s wife, Jane Skinner, works for Fox News. If the commissioner thought the had a problem with Limbaugh, wait until Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck get on his ass.
Perhaps it would serve everyone’s best interests if Goodell, the owners and the NFLPA washed their hands of this whole affair and focus on what’s most important: getting the CBA renegotiated and giving fans of the National Football League what they want.
In the end, the fans don’t care about Limbaugh or Soros, we just want to watch the game we love.
Another thief caught trying to steal beer and let go! This isn’t going to stop until an example if made of the offenders.
Surefire – for someone whose reputation and viability depended on “snitches” and who, no doubt, turned them out like a pimp turns out whores, this is an “interesting” obsession. All I know about “snitches” is some dirty cops who used one against me and then planted evidence when their warrant turned out to be bad and they had nothing. So take your “snitch” shit and shove it up your ass – from whence it comes. You’re a dirt-bag. And if you hate “snitches”, you hate yourself.
Oh, wait a minute…
Dance around your fellow drug-addict dirtbag, Surefire. Do your little dance because a racist got shot down. I’m sure that hurts you every time it happens.
It is shocking, just shocking that the LAPD was once seen as racist.
That Surefire has to go to lengths of invoking the experience of a 14-year old boy attempting to evade the Nazis sending him to a concentration camp is another “interesting” aspect of this discussion. In retrospecty, “Dirt-bag” is too kind a description of this clown’s argumentation. I recall someone using the term “curve-balls” thrown by liberals. This is beyond any known “curve” – it’s a signal of Glenn Beck-style insanity. And of course, all of the known racists in this crazy world are minorities taking offense at assholes like Surefire. Sad. Crazy. And very, very small – increasingly small, which is why they sound so desperate.
Let me also add that I as I Jew, and a human being, I find surefire’s sliming of a 14 year old boy whose entire family was murdered in the holocaust beneath contempt.
“other racially divisive comments that haven’t been confirmed”
Anyone who asserts Limbaugh’s having made serial racist comments isn’t “confirmed” is either ignorant or a liar. The record is clear and well-documented, despite a couple of quotes that, in fact, “haven’t been confirmed.” This is a total dodge and bogus defense of the slimy, drug-addict fat-boy.
Sure Fire, no poll yet had demonstrated that Americans are going to vote Republicans back into power. Obama’s approval rating is due to a lot of liberals upset with him for not being liberal enough. The Republican party has no message, and no leader. Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh are fingernails going down a chalk board to independent voters. Forget it. They only appeal to republicans. Normal Americans can’t stand them. Sure Fire, just for laughs, name one 2012 prospective candidate that you think will beat Obama. And, what does FoxNews’s ratings have to do with anything? You should also know that their ratings are only good compared to other cable news networks. Compared to broadcast t.v, AND broadcast t.v. news, they’re not even a blip on the radar. Good Morning America trumps any show on FoxNews. Get a clue. But back to 2012. Come on, Sure Fire, just for our amusement, name your republican candidate who beats Obama in ’12. I can’t wait. I just hope I don’t have coffee in my mouth when I read it. I don’t want to have to buy another keyboard.
Woody doesn’t want us to think about the Wall Street crooks that ran a muck over our economy and our way of life on Bush’s watch. He wants us to focus on kids stealing beer. See the difference between republicans and the rest of America?
I think that the perpetrator was trying to steal Hamm’s Beer.
Swing all you wish, Sure Fire, Norwalquero can take it and give it back in spade!
Go give your “Herman Munster” advice over at Mike Higby’s blog.
Woody, find a wife.
SHOULD SEX OFFENDERS BE BARRED FROM CHURCH?
So, I guess that reg didn’t go to church today.
N: Obama’s approval rating is due to a lot of liberals upset with him for not being liberal enough.
Likewise with Bush and conservatives.
Really Woody, read what you just wrote? Stop embarrassing your family and please grow up.
Is that all you’ve got, Jane? You haven’t called me a Nazi, yet.
1)Poor Reg, took you long enough to come up with that. They planted evidence on you, yeah right. A whiney con and nothing more, no wonder you hate cops it’s part of your dna.
2) Limbaugh is an addict and a racist? Sure Reg, and you’re the one who cops came after, for no reason of course, and planted “evidence” on you. Truly Reg, is your last name Grimm?
3)See Mavis, that’s what makes you an idiot, LAPD isn’t the topic and you do nothing to present your case, just post your smart ass brain dead comment as usual. As you’ve said before…fuck off.
4) Oh now you get to play the Jew card Mavis, with the help of the most vulgar p.o.s. there is? You guys are too funny, and if you were OK with Jews that acted in the manner Soros did, 14 was old enough to know netter and Soros knew it, I’m sure your people are proud of you Mavis.
5) You haven’t proved a thing Reg, a hasty rush to judgement in my opinion. I’ll wait to see what shakes out but Rush is not stupoid. Of course you hate people like Rush, Woody, Pops and I with such a mad dog foaming at the mouth style I could care less what a p.o.s. like you thinks. You’re truly a sick dude.
6) Jane, who the hell is Mike Higby? As a true liberal you want to stop the conservative from speaking. all who think that way are cowards.
7) Nor, Palin won’t be the person who the party unites behind but the mid-term elections will be pivotal and Republicans will gain seats in The House and Senate. That’s how these things start. the changing of power. Same goes for some governor races. I won’t name my choice, too soon but it won’t be Palin and I shy away from Huckabee as well.
Nice how all you racists stayed away from commenting on Foxx, tus nalgas pelonas.
I can’t believe what I’m seeing on TV. Now Bears are getting away with murder. Officials need to make an example of their offensive linemen.
After two, Phillies 6, Dodgers 0. What’s going on?
Shut up Woody…DA BEARS!!!
They self-destructed.
“Swing all you wish, Sure Fire, Norwalquero can take it and give it back in spade! Go give your “Herman Munster†advice over at Mike Higby’s blog.”
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Now our shape shifing fool from “Norwalk” is named Jane. Must be the fullfiment of some perverse fantasy. jejeje
In case I forgot, Soros is one of the biggest assholes on the planet, his exploits as a teenager probably laid the foundation for what he’s been as an adult. His supporters here are no less shameful.
As if this needs to be said: the NFL knows that Rush Limbaugh is bad for business. That’s all that matters–everything else is just hot air and bluster. Why would Goodell and the gang want to ruin a good thing? Idiots don’t make money.
Thankfully, in the end, capitalism trumps racism.
Phillip: capitalism trumps racism
Which is why we don’t need affirmative action.
Surefire – you’re a dirtbag defending dirtbags. It’s really that simple. You show your true colors. You’re the whiny cry-baby here. You bring up “snitch” obsesssively – so I’m stating the only facts I have regarding the kind of people you creeps turn out. You don’t deserve respect unless you earn it. Plenty of folks who read these threads see through you. That you are involved with “law enforcement” is a sad testament to the sorry state of the profession in many areas. You’re pathetic and you’ve got so many “issues” that your presence here has become embarrassing to the “side” you purport to speak for. The “Jew card?” Quit digging…
Also Misfire – if your only response to the issue of “planted evidence” is that it’s a “con” I doubt you were ever really a drug cop, but that you’re a 12 year old wannabe broadcasting from Mom’s basement. Nobody’s that naive…
The personal incidents I refer to happened when I was a kid and I’ve had nothing to do with that ridiculous shit for 40 years – haven’t even messed with weed, was focused on raising my kids when all of the “respectable” folks were flaunting coke in the ’70s, did successfully run a heroin dealer out of a former neighborhood using vigilante tactics when the cops could do nothing about it and got pissed at us for giving enough of a shit to actually take action, and don’t even get speeding tickets – but I have to say my youthful, personal experiences involving drug cops were very educational. (One thing that was most evident was the cop’s cowardice in their selective – and utterly bullshit – targeting.)
So no, I have no predisposition toward you other than skepticism. My predisposed skepticism of you has, by what you show here, turned into disgust. Most telling is that guys like you would be nothing without the “snitches” you revile so obsessively. I just hope the dishonesty and contempt that you display here isn’t compulsive and doesn’t seep over too much into your work days and/or nights.
“a mad dog foaming at the mouth style” – To venture putting that line in the extended comment at 3:56 and direct it at someone else is…uh…humorous.
“Which is why we don’t need affirmative action.”
Nice (failed) try at a “gotcha”. In fact, I believe affirmative action is poor policy. I also believe Rush Limbaugh is a whiny crybaby who can’t accept the fact that he was not wanted in the NFL club. Simple economics, dude: Goodell is no idiot. Of course, it’s much easier to whine about it (wait, I thought only liberals were whiny babies!) instead of accept the truth of the matter. Limbaugh is a hot-air balloon.
That’s funny. Somehow I knew a cranky old man was going to call me names Perhaps it’s clairvoyance.
Surefire, that you don’t understand that Jewish people might take special umbrage at exploiting the horror of the holocaust to score cheap partisan points indicates what an ass you are. Additionally, Abraham Foxman and I would recommend you don’t throw around phrases like “Jew card”.
2nd, I really don’t know how you could miss the connection between a former cop (that’s you) penning thousand word defenses of a bigot and racist (that’s Rush Limbaugh) and the the old LAPD’s problems with racism. Maybe you can call some buddies and they can help you puzzle it out.
Incidentally, I’m not a celeb watcher so I had to look up the Jamie Foxx incident and as far as I can tell it has nothing to do with race or politics (though Jamie Foxx is black and perhaps that threw surefire). It’s just a comedian saying something nasty about another (albeit much younger) celebrity. I believe he apologized. Are you complaining that football players didn’t refuse to play for Jamie Foxx like they did Rush Limbaugh? Perhaps the issue is that the NFL is composed of fewer Miley Cyrus fans than black people.
Reg, I sold dope u/c for 18 straight months, kilo quantities and up usually, sometimes smaller. I know dope inside out, snitches were always a lower life form but I always kept my end of the deal same as my partners. You’re a stone cold cop hater and nothing more. You waited way to long to post your story for it to be credible. You’re a nobody to me, just a sorry hateful old man.
Mavis, you’re a nut, you post your lame ass demeaning remarks and cry foul when you get some back, what a baby. You don’t have to be a celeb watcher to have known what happened with Foxx but you had trouble understanding my post obviously or like most with your leanings simply couldn’t comment on my actual take or how I arrived at it.
As for your whole rant on how Jews feel, trust me on this Mavis, I’m very well aware of how most Jews feel and not all are screaming and hyperbolic like you stretching things to a point that only few would agree with. In other words, your opinion really doesn’t matter.
“As for your whole rant on how Jews feel, trust me on this Mavis, I’m very well aware of how most Jews feel”
Try out the “Jew card” line on your close, personal Jewish friends. I bet they’ll be very impressed.
I thought I addressed the Foxx issue pretty clearly. He said something you found offensive. Rush Limbaugh has said something other people found offensive. You want to know why the two men are being treated differently. The answer is… drum roll please… not all offensive things are equal. Rush Limbaugh repeatedly made comments that are really offensive to large classes of people – people who are important in football – and never apologizes. Jamie Foxx said something nasty once about a specific person and did apologize. I think the difference is pretty obvious. I’m certainly at a loss at how to explain it to you more clearly.
Being offensive and being racist are two entirely different things. Source your Rush quotes you have problems with and I’ll argue them with you if I think you’re wrong. Jamie Foxx did more than say something nasty about a person once and apologize, Foxx threatened Richards for making his remarks and nobody cared. Any whites threaten Foxx over his reamrks? Think the news media wouldn’t have been all over that if someone did, hell he apoligized? The whole Richrads/Foxx deal shows the double standard you don’t seem to care one bit about Mavis.
Consider what Michael Richards went through after his remarks I’ve already spoke about, and remember Foxx went through no type of ordeal. This is from Wikipedia.
On November 17, 2006, during a performance at the Laugh Factory in West Hollywood, California, a cell phone video captured Richards[1][8] shouting “Shut up” to a heckler in the audience, followed by repeated shouts of “He’s a nigger!” to the rest of the audience[9] (using the word six times altogether), and also making a reference to lynching.[10] He was addressing a pair of black hecklers.[11] Richards made a public apology for his remarks, during a satellite appearance on the Late Show with David Letterman, when Jerry Seinfeld was the guest.[12] He described going into a rage and said, “For me to be at a comedy club and to flip out and say this crap, I’m deeply, deeply sorry.” He said he was trying to defuse heckling by being even more outrageous, but that it had backfired. Richards later called civil rights leaders Al Sharpton[13] and Jesse Jackson[14] in order to apologize. He also appeared as a guest on Jackson’s syndicated radio show.[15]
Kyle Doss, one of the members of the group that Richards had addressed, gave his explanation to CNN of the events prior to the cell phone video. He said that they had arrived in the middle of the performance and that, “I guess we’re being a little loud, because there was 20 of us ordering drinks. And Richards said, ‘Look at the stupid Mexicans and blacks being loud up there.'”[13] Richards then continued with his routine. Doss added, “And, then, after a while, I told him, my friend doesn’t think you’re funny,” which triggered Richards’ outburst.
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Didn’t end there though did it?
‘Deeply sorry’
Richards, best known for his portrayal of the wacky neighbor Kramer in the mega-hit series “Seinfeld,†apologized for his behavior in an interview Monday night via satellite on David Letterman’s “Late Show.â€
“I got heckled and took it badly and went into a rage,” he said, adding, “I am not a racist! That’s what’s so insane about this. For me to be on stage, and flip out and say this stuff, I’m deeply, deeply sorry.”
Los Angeles attorney Gloria Allred, who is representing Doss and McBride, said she wants a retired judge to sit down with Richards and the two men to determine if the three-time Emmy winner should pay them for “the pain that he has inflicted on them as a result of his racist words.”
“If our children took a rock and threw it through the window of a next-door neighbor, we would say to that child, ‘Go to the neighbor, apologize directly to the neighbor and pay the cost of that window that you broke,'” Allred said. “We think it’s important that he follow his words with deeds.”
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Allred is a snake and tried to weasel her way around what the justice system provides so she could make a buck, actually a whole lot of bucks.
Enter Gloria Allred, who saw a way to squeeze big bucks out of Richards’ desperation. She knows that Richards’ conduct holds no lucrative lawsuit potential. The only person who was truly injured by his outburst was himself. Obnoxious though it may be, calling someone a racial epithet is neither a crime nor a tort; the first amendment effectively prevents the courts from punishing speakers and writers for inflicting general harm with “mere words.” In 99.9% of such cases, the chances of getting a verbal abuser to compensate someone offended or horrified by his comments would be zero. So how does an enterprising plaintiff’s attorney manage to have a shot at a nice fat contingent fee when there’s no lawsuit to file?
Eureka! Sign up four blacks who witnessed Richards’ racist meltdown and who are not averse to getting a pay-off for their experience. Have them profess to have been “injured” by his rant…humiliated, threatened, degraded, yada yada yada. Then invent your own judicial system where the First Amendment doesn’t apply!
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How many quotes you think I could dig up by notable blacks that are racist towards whites or other groups, besides what I posted about Gumbel? I like racial humor that points out the differences in all of us that people who don’t walk around with their sensitive little heads buried up their ass see every day. Actual racist coments are a whole different deal and the double standard that’s allowed is sickening.
“Being offensive and being racist are… [blah, blah, fucking blah]”
Jeezus, put a fucking cork in it. You’re a blowhard and no one reads your brain-numbingly long and stupid comments. Somehow you stumbled upon this blog a few months ago, and the comments sections have been a bloody mess ever since. Get a grip and learn how to participate in a discussion.
I guess you were talking about a different Jamie Foxx incident. I really dislike him so I don’t follow his career. From a brief read, his “threat” sounded a lot tamer than the bravado surefire and reg exchange daily. I believe the phrase “put his dukes up” was invoked.
More to the point, there is no way I’m getting into a debate about what counts as racist. There’s plenty in the eye of the beholder in any case and white populists like Rush appeal to those who believe that whites are the primary victims of racism. It’s a totally wrong view (and it’s supporters often make the argument even less compelling by ignoring contrary evidence – like obviously racist shit) but fighting about it is somewhat purposeless.
What I think is undeniably true, however, is that that view is not widely held. Among the general public, Rush Limbaugh is really, really unpopular: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-02-04/america-to-rush-drop-dead
If surefire’s complaint is that Rush Limbaugh is right and he shouldn’t be unpopular, well, he’s wrong but it’s at least a coherent view. What isn’t coherent at all is the notion that there’s some big, effective liberal conspiracy out to prevent conservatives from owning things. Plenty of conservatives own things and buy things without a peep. Rush Limbaugh on the other hand has pissed a lot of people off. He’s made a lot of money doing it. In this instance, pissing all those people off cost him. That’s life. Whining about it is childish and betrays an inability to see the world as it is. That’s my last post on the matter.
Troll Boy Mikey, no matter how many names you use asshole, you never fucking matter. Now I’ll start posting more.
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Mavis, I don’t think there’s any deep conspiracy to keep conservatives from owning things but was there a conspiracy in this instance with Rush because he’s Rush.
Way to not source those comments that shows he’s a racist.