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Ferguson, Los Angeles & Lakewood….the Task of Finding Facts Beneath the Defensiveness, Demonization & Trauma


Over the weekend, emotions continued to run high over the shooting of Michael Brown.

Attorney General Eric Holder announced via a Sunday morning news release that, under the supervision of the DOJ, a federal examiner will conduct a third autopsy of Brown. (A state autopsy and an autopsy requested by Brown’s family are the first and second.) Holder said the state autopsy will also be taken into account.

Also on Sunday, Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon expressed unhappiness that Ferguson police released the video of Michael Brown appearing to rob a convenience store of a box of cigars, shoving the much smaller clerk out of the way when the clerk attempted to stop him.

[NOTE: In an earlier version of this story, we described Brown’s apparent action as “shoplifting,” which was not correct. In Missouri, as in most states, the shove to the clerk makes it “strong-arm robbery” or “robbery in the second degree,” as physical force appeared to be used, but there was no weapon involved.]

On the other hand, while the timing of the video release was painfully clumsy, withholding the video did not, frankly, sound like a great idea either. Damned if you do, damned if you…. etc.

Indeed, the video upset people. It may have been real but it was misleading, Brown’s neighbors tried to explain to an LA Times reporter. Mike-Mike, as they called him, was a good kid, not perfect, but someone for whom the neighbors had real hope.

By Sunday afternoon, the results of the private autopsy were released showing that Brown was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, with none of the shots appearing, at least initially, to be at close range. However, this last was not at all conclusive, since Brown’s clothing had not been examined by Dr. Michael Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri to perform the autopsy at Brown’s family’s request. Baden and others specified that more information is needed before conclusions could be drawn from his findings.

Yet the announcement fueled further demonstrations Sunday night featuring gun shots, Molotov cocktails and looting. Early Monday, Missouri’s governor called in the National Guard.

Matters had not been helped by the fact that members of the Ferguson Police Department had been behaving like storm troopers during demonstrations for the past week, hauling off a Washington Post reporter and a Huffington Post reporter to jail for….reporting.…from inside the local McDonald’s. And chasing an Al Jazeera team away from the reporters’ lights and cameras with tear gas.

Meanwhile, back in Los Angeles on Sunday afternoon, the LAPD met several hundred sign-carrying demonstrators who gathered at LAPD headquarters to protest the shooting death on August 11 of Ezell Ford, a 25-year-old, reportedly mentally ill black man who was unarmed and whom police say tried to take the gun from the holster of one of the officers who attempted to detain him. Witnesses tell a different story.

In LA, the cops mostly let the demonstrators do what they wanted when they marched through Union Station, Little Tokyo, and elsewhere, long as they didn’t cause trouble.

The difference in the responses of the two departments points to the fact that the two shootings did not take place in the same context and, despite the similar emotional issues they may raise, they must not be conflated.

At the same time, the circumstances of both shootings are sharply disputed, and thus they require clear-headed, dispassionate investigation to tease out the facts.

On Friday, LA’s emotional climate was complicated further as the dangerous nature of police work was tragically illustrated when a Los Angeles County Sheriff’s deputy was viciously assaulted while he was escorting a domestic disturbance suspect out of a Lakewood shopping mall. The suspect, who has now been arrested for attempted murder, knocked the deputy to the ground, then repeatedly kicked him in the head and body, putting him in critical condition. Since surgery, the deputy’s condition has been listed as stable, but there are inferences of life-changing injuries.

Such attacks cannot help but traumatize officers who just want to do their jobs well and get home safe to their families at night. When non-cops fail to comprehend this reality, they risk distancing themselves disastrously from the men and women who have signed up to protect and serve them.

At the same time, members of LA’s minority neighborhoods in particular can point to decades of shameful history of police abuses that, while reform has taken place, have left trauma still in their wake to the degree that an LA reporter and mother writes about her terror when she first learned she would be having a baby boy in a world where “black boys face different dangers,” some of them from law enforcement. Her fears, sadly, are not uncommon.

To look at the matter from a slightly different angle, one of the best and simplest explanations I’ve read in the last week as to why shooting of—or by—- police officers are likely generate so much upset comes from the Atlantic’s Ta-Nehisi Coates:

Police in America are granted wide range of powers by the state including lethal force. With that power comes a special place of honor. When cops are killed the outrage is always different than when citizens are killed. Likewise when cops kill under questionable terms, more scrutiny follows directly from the logic of citizenship. Great power. Great responsibility.

There you have it. We are supposed to be devastated when a cop is hurt or killed. Cops and firefighters are the people who put themselves in harm’s way to protect the rest of us, and injury or worse to peace officers goes beyond the awful tragedy that hits the family and friends of the individual cop. It tears something fundamental in the community as a whole.

By the same token, if police appear to use their powers wrongly or carelessly or cavalierly, then resist being questioned about it—or worse, lie about it—-community members feel frightened and betrayed. Community trust shatters in ways that are difficult to repair. Everybody suffers from the shattering, police and community both.

It is, of course, much too soon to know what really happened in either the Michael Brown or the Ezell Ford shootings. And whatever truths are ultimately uncovered, let us hope we can get to them with a minimum of defensiveness and/or demonization. We are, in the end, all in this together. Remembering that one small fact might be helpful.

40 Comments

  • After seeing the shot placement, it looks to me like after the big thug, Michael Brown attacked the officer, he fired two the body, one to the head, grazing the top of his skull, repeated the sequence and the final head shot dropped the big guy. Although it appears most shots were off to the left, it is good shooting under high stress. Very nice work.

  • Well how bout that. Looks like Mr. Brown was not shot in the back after all. Who would have thought? The grouping of the rounds in my humble opinion shows six rounds fired in rapid succession which would seem to bolster the officer’s claim he fired in self defense.

  • This entire situation could not have been handled any worse then it has been. There has been so much political influence into this situation, all for the worse. The more their Governor has intervened (day by day) the worse it has been. It went from a heavy police presence, to no police presence which at that point, became a license to steal. To a bullshit “Martial Law” of 2400-0500 (why have one at all?) to the Governor removing authority from the locals (can he really do such a thing, legally?) and giving it to their State Police. In doing that, the Incident Commander ends up being some embarrassing clown by the name of Captain Johnson, who is suddenly hailed as “a rising star” by the media. Yet, he ends up being a buffoon who marches with the crowd of angry protestors, thugs and looters, all in the name of pimping himself as a “brotha” and not a professional police officer. And what is the result? More looting, more riots, more shootings all created by this stupid “hands off and let us heal” mentality pushed by the politicians. So now what? Now the National Guard has been called in and this will continue to escalate. This is all stupid politics completely out of control.

    Then you have the race hustlers of Sharpton and Jackson and their roll out team of race baiters responding and doing their normal bullshit that apparently went over like a fart in church with most of the locals. And then, right on cue and with no information other than “never let a crisis go to waste” in his mind, Obama spews his routine display of stupidity and racial philosophy of racial divide, live from Martha’s Vineyard and his $12,000,000 rental where he recovers from the pressures of being the idiot in chief.

    So two things can be done. Close the epicenter of this incident, pull back the cops, truck in sledge hammers and commercial made Molotov Cocktails and tell “the looters,” “Ok folks, the politicians are running this operation, we are out of here. Burn down your neighborhood, loot this shit out of everything you haven’t already, do as you wish because we don’t give a fuck. However, one rule, you come outside this perimeter, your ass is toast. Stay inside the perimeter and you can dance, march, yell ‘No justice, no peace’ all you want. It’s yours, all yours, just don’t hurt anyone one but steal all you want.”

    Or, two, contain and control this incident the way it should have been done the first hour. Overwhelming manpower, gas, flash bangs and arrests hard and fast of all “lawbreakers” and so called “outsiders.” You want to protest, not a problem, provide security for them to exercise their rights to lawfully assemble and protest. But when anyone gets out of line, their ass is going to jail and there are no second chances. Sundown to sunup curfew, no exceptions. Any form of unlawful assembly will be dealt with like a ton of bricks. Do it right or don’t do it at all. But, this thing will drag on and on and on while the politicians say, “Now what do we do? Let’s try this…..”

    If I didn’t know better, I’d say Lee Baca was in charge of this operation.

  • It’s also possible Mr. Brown was fleeing and shot in the arm. He could have then spun around reflexively with his arms extended up as a sign of surrender and continued to be fired upon. Even if he was a fleeing felon, the Tennessee v. Garner ruling would come into play. Just an alternate scenario proposed by some on CN. Not good to speculate one way or another. All the facts have to come in and be objectively evaluated.

  • The autopsy conducted by the Brown family showed all the rounds entered from the front. So much for your/CNN spinning theory. I’m quite sure Mr. Brown was a good kid and the robbery just a misunderstanding.

  • Read it and weep, your last sentence made my day. I’m more interested in what happened prior to the shooting then the shooting itself, it sets the stage for what was to follow. That split second decision to drop the hammer was based on something, and right now only only three individuals knew the whole picture, and one is dead. Even the witness, aka suspect #2 from the strongarm robbery, is all over the map with his statements, which don’t seem to jive with preliminary autopsy reports and reality. I don’t recall being taught to drag a giant suspect into my radio car for anything, which means the suspect most likely engaged the cop while he was still seated in the radio car.

    Just a possibility, not a certainty, but perhaps the gentle giant pushed the cop back into the car as he tried to get out, and then lunged in the window to pull his gun out. The cop holds on to his gun and the suspect breaks free. The cop steps out, attempts to detain the suspect who started walking away and ignored his commands. He then turns and charges at the cop, whereby the cop fires away in rapid succession, not wanting to wrestle over his gun again and come up on the losing side in fear for his life. One possible, but probable, scenario. Again, all speculation.

    Quite telling was the “witness” who quite vocally gave very detailed information to a TV reporter about the shooting, how the suspect begged for his life, and painted a very vivid story of an execution. The intrepid reporter, God bless her, then asked the witness what happened before the shooting. The “witness” then suddenly lost all ability to articulate a thought or even speak in a coherent sentence.

    Quite telling, as honest as the aunt describing her “innocent child.” There are deep, underlying cultural issues that center around street life, hustling, taking advantage of and using physical prowess to make a quick buck, and always blaming “the man” when things don’t work out the way the average thug expects. As a wise man once said, ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.

  • Looks like all the racists are out in force today. Black man gets an affirmative action promotion and whitey goes nuts.

    Black man shot in the head and whitey says he deserved it.

    There’s your state of race relations today.

    PS, Celeste, I think this is one of your best written posts.

  • Yes, but whitey doesn’t burn down his neighborhood every time a crook is shot by the police. A sad state of race relations in this country.

  • The tragedy is that the (innocent) community of citizens and cops are the ones who have to deal with the aftermath of Ferguson P.D. in Missouri and LAPD here in Los Angeles.
    Even most scariest of all for the cops directly involved, is “how strong is their union in backing them legally and if their Chief of Police backs them until the end.
    We definitely need more legal representation with teeth for our deputies. ALADS does not fit the bill. It’s crucial that ALADS revise and revamp our legal representation ( we pay enough). Just a thought to the hard working deputies in LASD……we could be next

  • @ read & weep. I see and understand the previous view points, Whether I agree or not is another issue. Why do you associate the root word of “PIMP”(ing) with a “Brotha”. The real PIMPS are Corporate America. Uncle Sam is a PIMP and a THIEF.
    Just because you are a “Bro” and not a “BROTHA” does not automatically associate you with the words of Pedophile or Serial Killer does it ??????

  • “Whitey”……….”racists”

    That’s the type of post that promotes understanding, builds trust and bridges the gap in the chasm between the community and law enforcement. It is encumbent upon cops to try and build trust with people like Wow due to them being disenfranchised.
    If only cops would be more understanding, sympathetic and respectful of Wow’s opinions, feelings and concerns the healing process can begin.

  • And of course we’re completely off the rails completely in #11. A little touchy are we when the evidence and some witness statements don’t support the narrative that the media and activists have already established for the cop haters?

    Here comes the vitriol toward the cops who comment here the minute we lend any credence to the evidence. The minute we point out the holes wider than the Grand Canyon in Mike-Mike’s accomplice’s story, we’re racists. As soon as we point out the witness statements that don’t support the “It was cold blooded murder” narrative that has already been established we’re racists.
    It’s never been more obvious that open, honest, intelligent communication is what people like Wow and Concerned Citizen are looking for.
    It would be wrong of any cop to have an us vs. them attitude concerning people like Wow and Concerned Citizen.
    It’s obvious that Wow and Concerned Citizen’s quest is for “justice”.
    If cops would just be more respectful of their opinions everything would be much better. It would be close to Utopia.

  • I could be wrong, but my impression is Wow was just trying to get a rise out of someone. Don’t take him too seriously!

  • Wow and concerned citizen. You two are probably the most naive, self absorbed , life=ignorant “people” I have witnessed in a long time. Might I suggest that you and your elk educate yourselves and return to this site. You are not ready for the big leagues. ‘Nuff said

  • Bandwagon,
    I too initially suspected that regarding Wow’s post
    Even if he is mocking the radicals who think that way, there are plenty of them for him to mock.
    The activists, Al Sharpton and the like, could care less about justice. It’s payback that they seek. Retribution. They are against cops whether we like it or not. We don’t have a choice in the matter. They have made their choice.
    Once one entity chooses to have an adversarial role in a relationship, it’s an adversarial relationship whether the other entity likes it or not.
    That’s a fact. It’s not opinion.
    It’s surprising to me that some people who comment here fail to recognize that and accept it.
    They aren’t looking for dialogue or understanding. They are looking for scalps. Cop scalps.
    As far as it being us vs. them, until THEY decide they don’t want it that way, the adversarial relationship will continue.
    I’m not responsible for their choice.

  • @ Old Retiree:
    Your redneck response to Concerned Citizen reminds me of “the locals” in the movie “Deliverance”. Retirement for you surely,meant relief for others.

  • While saying that community relations is an important issue, no matter where we live, I am adamantly supportive of everyone having due process – and that includes police officers who shoot and kill suspects. We cannot demand transparency and fairness within any community if we fail to offer the same legal standing to law enforcement. We are far too quick, on occasion, to rush to judgment and each case needs to be investigated and viewed for the very individual situation it is. Additionally, it makes no sense, nor is there any excuse, for burning and looting businesses or physically attacking officers assigned to protect property and lives. Likewise, any department who over-reacts not only looses the confidence of the community but risks adding fuel to the fire and worsening events.

    I expect a certain amount of extreme emotionalism comes from generic pent-up feelings within the ‘disenfranchised’ who are already under stress due to tough economic times. This means that a percentage of our population looks to take out their general anger and frustration by focusing on a particular situation that is merely the ‘straw that broke the camel’s back,’ rather than even remotely close to the full reason for the backlash. That said, it is just a personal observation on my part and does nothing to resolve any tension and trouble.

    No citizens should tolerate criminal behavior within their community. We should all want a safe and pleasant place to live, for ourselves and our children. I think there tends to be a somewhat schizophrenic approach on the part of some citizenry who have trouble admitting that in their midst live a criminal element.

  • Outstanding post Angela! You should submit it to the LA Times Op-ed for publication. Maybe Celeste could help.

  • Redneck. I wondered how long it would take before that was thrown out there.
    Used with a Deliverance reference even. Nice.

    Brother,
    Thanks for the help in proving my point.

  • Info only: You can now show your support for Officer Darren Wilson on Facebook. Please support him and his family in this time of need!

  • I think it’s clear the only thing that will satisfies these hooligans is to prosecute the cop. They don’t care about TRUTH because when truth is displayed, it’s called character assassination. The media is cheerleading for the outlaws and seem to have expertise in riot control but are wrong on every suggestion that’s made. Despite the claim that Ferguson PD is full of nothing but bloodthirsty racists and 3 uncle toms, I haven’t heard about any other person being shot by the Ferguson PD. Where’s the evidence? I haven’t seen the media attempt to interview any witnesses that remotely support the police version of the incident. The media is either lazy, cowardly or propagandists. I believe it’s probably all three.

    The youth, especially black youth have been brainwashed into believing whitey and especially cops are their oppressors. The American system hates them and will do anything to put them down. This is instilled by our education system and further reinforced by the media. Thus, we have a significant portion of our society that make every grievance racial. We have the streets filled with racists, not protesters demanding justice. They want the cop sacrificed, right or wrong. RACISM is on full display and it’s not coming from the cops. How can a country have a significant racism problem when a black president is elected with a 15% black population? Facts, not emotion.

    I want to know where this officer’s police union or his attorney is hiding. That should be out FRONT and center in defending this officer. This kind of thing happens too often and the unions and attorneys representing cops need to be vigorous and militant in the support of our brother. You know the police executives and politicians will be the first to throw the cop under the bus to save there own hide. We need to support our brother in need.

    By the way,

  • @ 10,22,24……I hope every deputy that reads this blog pay special attention to the legal portion of your comments. Cowboy & Cracker jack both hit it the hardest in their last paragraph.

  • OH WELL. YOU HAVE IT NAILED. THIS SEEMS TO BE A GLOBAL ISSUE. THE US VS, THEM IS NOT COPS VS. CITIZENS, IT’S GOOD VS, EVIL. LOOK AT ISRAEL V. HAMAS. NETANYAHU ALSO HITS IT ON THE HEAD. UNTIL PALESTINE TAKES ISRAEL SERIOUSLY AND STAYS TRUE TO ITS WORD ( WHICH HISTORICALLY HAS NEVER HAPPENED, ) THERE CAN BE NO PEACE. ‘IT IS OUR RIGHT TO DEFEND OURSELVES AND OUR RIGHT TO EXERCISE THAT RIGHT ” BENJAMIN NETANYAHU.
    AND THANK YOU, OH WELL.

  • Good editorial by Jonah Goldberg in today’s LA Times Op-ed. A not so good editorial by Journalist Erin Aubry Kaplan playing the victim card .Both worth reading to see the gap we have in race relations!

  • Read a news item, that stated that Officer Darren Wilson suffered a fractured orbital in his eye when attacked by suspect Brown..

  • @ Oh Well… If I didn’t know any better, judging by WLA, I would bet that this website was your creation. Is you true name Ike (I know everything). I know for a fact that you have been “called out” before about your gazillion posts.

    Are you trying to set a record for the most posts?

    Geez Louise…..give others a break. You’re either bored to death and have no life or you’re “chomping at the bit” to break into writing. There is only one Rush Limbaugh and you’re not it. Power down.

  • Folks, I fear with AG Holder in Ferguson, the indictment of Officer Darren Wilson is inevitable, regardless if the evidence exonerates him. Political pressure will be applied and an indictment sought. We all realize we are one traffic stop away from being Darren Wilson. If he is indicted, and evidence supports his innocence, I purpose that law enforcement officers nationwide conduct a show of solidarity and protest his indictment. I may be jumping the gun, but we all know how out of control the federal government is under the current administration. Lets all pull together on this one!

  • The Governor of Mo. has just publically called for the prosecution of Officer Darren Wilson. And so it begins. Please contact the governor’s office and voice your displeasure with his actions. The phone line is full, so send your message via e-mail on the web site.

  • Absolutely Bandwagon!!! Nixon just made the most outrageous statement I have seen in a long time! Nothing like convicting the guy before ALL the facts are in!!! It seems it is in the cards that this Officer will be thrown to the wolves for political reasons and to appease the MOB….DISGUSTING!!!

  • The Missouri Governor doesn’t call for a vigorous investigation. He calls for a vigorous prosecution. He doesn’t call for the finding of facts, he calls for “justice” for Michael Brown’s family.

    Missouri State Senator Jamilah Nasheed to St. Louis prosecutor Robert McCulloch:
    “If you should decide not to indict this police officer, the rioting we witnessed this past week will seem like a picnic compared to the havoc that will likely occur”.
    August 15th, 2014

    Jack Dawson,
    I’ll refer back to my previous post when I asked you if you thought the cop would really get a fair shake. Before the investigation is even complete and the evidence is known, we have the MO governor and a state senator applying political pressure and insinuating threats on behalf of the rioters.
    All the while, they have the unmitigated gall to claim that “justice” is what they are seeking.
    Sickening and painfully obvious to any intelligent person that the evidence doesn’t matter to them, it hasn’t even all been disclosed. They couldn’t have made it more obvious that the only acceptable outcome to them is the conviction of the cop.
    Jack, is it really shortsighted that cops have an “Us vs. Them” mentality? Or is it simply accepting the reality that that’s the way it is? Cops accept reality. Not the way it should be. Not the way we wish it was. Not the way we hope for it to be someday. None of that shit matters one little bit if we are involved in a deadly force incident today. We accept the reality of the here and now.
    Police depts. across the nation have never been more PR oriented than they are today. Yet it seems that NO amount of PR, NO amount of “dialogue”, conflict resolution or “understanding” seems to change it.
    Why? Because the “Them” entity in the Us vs.Them equation has decided that’s the way they want it. So, they get it.
    And “Social Justice” advocates/activists and the so called intellectuals in the media want the cops to accept responsibility for the Us vs. Them relationship that exists? Really?
    That is, to use the street vernacular of today, RICH. Very rich indeed.
    Jack, let’s keep it real and not get it twisted re: the reason the Us vs. Them mentality exists among cops.

    Signal Zero.

  • BTW Brother,
    Of the last 100 comments posted, 16 are mine. I didn’t realize making 16% of the comments was trying to monopolize the conversation.
    Or could it be that it’s not the number of my posts that really irks you, it’s the content?

  • I really feel for officer Wilson and his family. I hope he doesn’t lose his job just to satisfy the mob. He’s just going out to work doing his job so he can go home safe to his family at the end of his shift. I agree with the other posts, we need to show our support for Officer Wilson and his family. Is there any way to get him and his family safely out here and hire him on as a deputy sheriff with the LASD? I agree with the other post yes, we’re just a traffic stop away Ifrom being in Officer Wilson’s shoes.

  • Wilson’s Police Association should have been front and center. Alads….., you better take note and don’t be guilty of “hiding in the background”. I.E. The Lakewood Mall Incident.

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