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American Voices….Part VI

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Okay, finally….here’s my last installment of Voices from the Road.

(For those just tuning in, you can find the first five installments, gathered as I was driving from Los Angeles to northwestern Montana and back again, here, here, here, here and here)

Again, the single question I asked was:
If you could ask the America’s politicians—Democrats and Republicans— to get one problem solved for this country, what issue would you pick first?

You’ll note this is a far less varied group than the others, in that four out of the six people are from Cedar City, Utah. (The fifth was an interesting homeless guy living in Las Vegas whom I met with I stopped at a city park to let my dog stretch her legs. The sixth was….well, you’ll just have to read on and find out.)

Since the preponderance of those I interviewed are from Cedar City
, let me tell you a little about the place. This is Bush country. The state went 70 percent for Bush in 2004, and Cedar City is resolutely Republican. It’s also a culturally homogeneous town, population about 24,000, 92 percent white, most of those of English extraction, with a few German, Scottish and Irish bloodlines thrown in for variety. It was founded after Brigham Young sent settlers to the area in 1851 to mine the region’s coal and iron deposits. Fifty-three percent of its adults are married, and the median family income is $37,509. It is the home of Southern Utah University.

It’s a small enough city that most kids
walk or ride bikes to school. And there is very little violent crime here according to the FBI. In fact, the town’s big crime incident this August was the feud between two portrait photographers that turned briefly violent when photographer Kurt Leany lobbed a rock (allegedly via slingshot) through the the window of photographer Karl Hugh. The precipitating event was when the Miss Iron County Pageant switched its business from Mr. Leany to Mr. Hugh. Mr. Leany has since apologized.

All in all, Cedar City seemed like a nice town and an excellent place to find some conservative-leaning answers to my question. Hoping for a good age mix (and also hoping to snag for myself a triple latte), I dropped into the town’s Starbucks where nearly everyone in the place was eager to talk. I randomly picked four—two Starbucks workers, and two customers.

To a person, they wanted to talk about Iraq
(In one case, the economy was thrown in as well.) Three of them had relatives in country or about to go. Their answers were poignant, and more emotional than you’ll get simply from the printed words. Some of them stuttered as they talked, their expressions suddenly stricken. It wasn’t that they weren’t articulate. These were people who genuinely wanted to answer the question. But, once into the subject, they seemed to find themselves at a loss about what they could reasonably wish for in order to fix the situation.

And no one-no one—sounded confident that their leaders knew what to do.

Okay, enough of my nattering. Here are their words:

Nancy, 44, lives in Cedar City, works part time at Starbucks, the rest of the time stays home with her kids. She said: For me it’s the whole war. My husband’s very, very Republican and I’m independent. So, I understand the pros. My godson just enlisted and he went off to Germany so I support the whole war in that way. If you pull out of Iraq, that’s a bad thing, and if you stay, that’s a bad thing. So there is no answer. But I wish they’d do something.
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Ryan, 24, lives in Cedar City, also works part time at Starbucks, then he runs the office portion of his dad’s air conditioning company. He said: Personally the Iraq situation. The war. I have a brother-in-law in the Marine Corps who’s in Iraq right now. I can’t really say what I’d have them do personally, It’s not my place.. But I’d like to see some resolution. I feel it’s important to be over there and nice to help, but…..it’d be nice to have some kind of answer.
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Linda, 57, a retired nurse, also from Cedar City, runs a seasonal fast food restaurant with her husband. She said:
The war. Because I’ve got sons that are involved….I have one that’s in the army. He’s up in Alaska right now and it’s questionable whether he’s going to go to Iraq again or someplace else. I would like to have that solved. I would hope that we should stay there ‘till it’s politically….. I don’t think the Sunnis and the Shites will ever get together….Democracy is what I’d like. I’d like us to leave with our heads held high. My son one son has PX and he was almost killed as a civilian over there. I don’t want them to have put their lives on the line and have it be for nothing.
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Diana, 57, (Linda’s neighbor) a retired product manager for a software company. She said:
The war….And our economy. Our economy’s awful. The country’s in such debt right now. Two terms ago, the country was in the black for the first time in a long time. I feel like we’re on a sinking ship almost. We need to focus on the United States and regroup, and get our act together.
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Richard, 53, out of work graphic artist, homeless, living in Las Vegas. He said: I think I’d have them focus on everyone having a job so they could take care of themselves. A lot of people like me need retraining. Like if I was retrained in computer ‘graphics, I know I could get work. I’m smart and good at what I do, and I want to work. But I don’t have the money to get retrained. I know there’s a lot of work out there. But after two heart attacks, there’s some kind of manual labor I can’t do. My last job was working full time for WalMart, but I couldn’t save enough money to put first and last on an apartment, and I couldn’t qualify for a car loan on what I made. Even full time, they don’t pay you enough. So job retraining, yeah, that’s what I’d choose.
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Carlos, 50, lives in Los Angeles and washes car windows for a living. He’s been physically disabled since birth. (My observation, not his.) I don’t know if he has a home. I don’t know if he is here legally. He said:

Nothing. I like everything in the United States of America.

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14 Comments

  • Celeste, this has been a most extraordinary series. What a treasure to find on a blog. I’ve enjoyed every single installment. Taken together it’s a novella. Many thanks to the people who were willing to be interviewed. And, many thanks to you for taking part of your ‘vacation’ (?) to put it all together. By now you must feel like you never left. Thanks again, for a really unique series. Well done, all.

  • Celeste: This is Bush country. …All in all, Cedar City seemed like a nice town and an excellent place to find some conservative-leaning answers…. I dropped into the town’s Starbucks….”

    Fantastic, Celeste. You picked a town where there were only fifty liberals and you went to the one spot where they all hang out. In fact, they choked on their lattes because they had found another liberal to listen to them. Next time, try the Waffle House or the VFW.

  • Celeste, love the sense of mood of Cedar City, the dispute between the two photogs over Miss Iron Whatever is perfect.

    But how in heck, in a city 70% Republican you say, did you manage to find two homeless guys as “representative?”

    The two women with sons/godsons in the military are reminders of the decent people who are being put right into the war. Wish we could leave honorably, having established democracy there, so their sacrifices will not be in vain. But if Bush and Cheney and their advisors had thought this out upfront, “democracy” there is not what he had dreamed. Even in the former Yugoslavia, look what happened in the end: the region was carved up tribally/ethnically.

  • Celeste next time also go to a KKK meeting, a skin-head rally and Woody’s house. (lol)

    Too bad I don’t drink any type of coffee, only water and Gatorade for this thirsty guy.

  • How about going to places where people work, pay taxes, and think that the taxes are too much for what we get. Those people have something in common with me.

  • Woody, if you think that in the mid-states only liberals hang out in Starbucks, you’re totally out of touch with current Americana. In Springfield Missouri – the Buckle on the Bible Belt & next door to Branson – they’ve got Starbucks in the supermarkets…

    I love this, “rd”. I’m gonna do a road trip through Missouri, Illinois and Indiana in October (to see my soon-to-arrive 1st grandson) and I’ll be sure to rip off your idea and post at BH.

  • Thanks, guys.

    Reg, I hope you do decide to do your version of it on your October trip (and post grandbaby photos too, of course).

    P.S., Maggie, the homeless guys were in Las Vegas and Los Angeles. In the case of Carlos, I stopped at a gas station somewhere off the 210 because I was near empty, and in the course of a single gasoline fill-up, I…. 1. got hit up for money by some guy who swore he just did a construction job and didn’t get paid (why this was suddenly my problem was unclear), 2. observed a hard-eyed group of guys in one car mad-dogging a hard-eyed group of guys in another car, and 3. had my windshield washed by the very charming (and very poignant) Carlos.

    I figured it was the universe’s not-too-subtle way of welcoming me back to L.A.

  • I’m going to do a road trip between Georgia and Alabama, stop at Cracker Barrels, and find out what is on the minds of the average American.

  • I’ll never venture through the doors of Starbucks again. If some of you knew something that I do but would rather not share, then you wouldn’t either. Hint – It has to do with labor issues, and I’m on the side of the employees.

  • Starbucks has a generic “culture” that they foster anywhere in the world, and I don’t always think it’s good. For example, I happened to be in China a few years ago when Starbucks were starting to open in Beijing, and there was a lot of confusion among both employees and customers at the enforced first-name basis between staff and customer, and the overall “American friendliness” that is alien to Asian culture. Many staff and customers felt it was rude to address customers by their first name out of the blue — even in the U. S. until very recently, surnames were the norm among strangers, and society was a lot more courteous as a whole for it.

    Seems like just a generation or so ago that California started setting the standard for the “Hi, my name is Joe, I’m your waitperson for the evening,” level of service that went along with a decline in the French formalism that used to be the hallmark of fine dining.

    My preference is for the funky coffee-houses tucked here and there around town, that have a little of the sense of the classic European ones — woody, a little dark here and there, papers inviting you to linger. Where pastries and snacks are specialties, or whims, of the house. Where they don’t push their own brands of populist CD’s and books.

    But I guess they do serve a purpose: if you want to find people willing to chat and out for break, and want to be sure you’ll not get brewed mud, it’s like McD’s for coffee. (Some survey recently said McD’s actually has better basic coffee…who knew.)

  • Excellent series. I actually stumbled upon it when I Googled Kurt Leany, one of the photographers in the dispute, to see if there was any further news about his ‘incident’.

    Kurt was a good friend of mine in my High School days and we were even roommates for a short while after we both graduated from Cedar City High School. He is one of the most mellow people I’ve ever known so you can just about imagine how astounded I was when I found out what happened.

    I left Cedar City shortly after High School and currently live in WA State. It’s a great little town though pretty conservative for my taste. Still, I’d go back in a hearbeat if I could make a living there.

    Anyway, great work, keep it up.

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