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	<title>Comments on: Parole and Race in California Prisons</title>
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		<title>By: kelloso</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelloso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After serving 26 years in the system (Ca. Prisons) it seems to me that changing something that is not broken will only cause more problems. Racial tension inside, esp. at Level 3 and 4 is much more serious and is life threatening. Maybe those Supreme Court justices need to spend a day or two in a real prison setting. As for the Ca. Supreme Court well it is about time they stepped in to go by the law and not let the Governor&#039;s of this state make the final decision without any evidence, or because of the political pressure not let prisoners out who have already been approved sometimes more than once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After serving 26 years in the system (Ca. Prisons) it seems to me that changing something that is not broken will only cause more problems. Racial tension inside, esp. at Level 3 and 4 is much more serious and is life threatening. Maybe those Supreme Court justices need to spend a day or two in a real prison setting. As for the Ca. Supreme Court well it is about time they stepped in to go by the law and not let the Governor&#8217;s of this state make the final decision without any evidence, or because of the political pressure not let prisoners out who have already been approved sometimes more than once.</p>
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		<title>By: Santiago</title>
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		<dc:creator>Santiago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;CanÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t we all live together in love and peace?&quot;
WHY OF COURSE WOODY - SI SE PUEDE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;CanÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t we all live together in love and peace?&#8221;<br />
WHY OF COURSE WOODY &#8211; SI SE PUEDE.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, if this works in Canada, then surely it will work in L.A. and California prisons!  Can&#039;t we all live together in love and peace?

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=522001fb-524f-406a-a473-2c2f98e3b66d&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;City street gangs contain multitude of ethnicities&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;More than half of Ottawa&#039;s 600 confirmed street gang members were born outside of Canada, according to Ottawa police intelligence.

In a report published in the RCMP Gazette magazine, Ottawa police Staff Sgt. Mike Callaghan of the guns and gang section said that 314 of the city&#039;s 600 confirmed gang members were born outside the country.

And the membership of Ottawa&#039;s two &quot;predominant&quot; gangs -- the West Side Bloods and the Ledbury Banff Crips -- is made up of 57 different nationalities, according to the report.

...He added that less than two per cent of the graffiti in Ottawa is gang-related.  &quot;If you can&#039;t read it, it is not gang stuff,&quot; he said. &quot;They want stuff to be seen.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, if this works in Canada, then surely it will work in L.A. and California prisons!  Can&#8217;t we all live together in love and peace?</p>
<p><b><a href="http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/story.html?id=522001fb-524f-406a-a473-2c2f98e3b66d" rel="nofollow">City street gangs contain multitude of ethnicities</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>More than half of Ottawa&#8217;s 600 confirmed street gang members were born outside of Canada, according to Ottawa police intelligence.</p>
<p>In a report published in the RCMP Gazette magazine, Ottawa police Staff Sgt. Mike Callaghan of the guns and gang section said that 314 of the city&#8217;s 600 confirmed gang members were born outside the country.</p>
<p>And the membership of Ottawa&#8217;s two &#8220;predominant&#8221; gangs &#8212; the West Side Bloods and the Ledbury Banff Crips &#8212; is made up of 57 different nationalities, according to the report.</p>
<p>&#8230;He added that less than two per cent of the graffiti in Ottawa is gang-related.  &#8220;If you can&#8217;t read it, it is not gang stuff,&#8221; he said. &#8220;They want stuff to be seen.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: My Abuelita hates gentrification</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Abuelita hates gentrification</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Segregation in prisons in retrospect just makes things worse like it does in society as a whole.

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Does this mean we need gavachos mixed with blacks and latinos in my barrio? Why do we really need gavachos and republicans living among minorites? Do we really need gavacho gentrification in Los Angles to create a better Los Angeles? What is wrong with a Los Angeles which has a Tijuana look to it, taco trucks, palleta carts and illegal vendors is what makes Highland Park and East Los Angeles unique and beautiful. I thought the original gangs in east Los Angeles such as White Fence were created by latinos to protect themselves from gavachos and their xenophobic vitriol. Hell no to gentrification of L.A., elotes, palletas and tacos for sell on every corner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Segregation in prisons in retrospect just makes things worse like it does in society as a whole.</p>
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<p>Does this mean we need gavachos mixed with blacks and latinos in my barrio? Why do we really need gavachos and republicans living among minorites? Do we really need gavacho gentrification in Los Angles to create a better Los Angeles? What is wrong with a Los Angeles which has a Tijuana look to it, taco trucks, palleta carts and illegal vendors is what makes Highland Park and East Los Angeles unique and beautiful. I thought the original gangs in east Los Angeles such as White Fence were created by latinos to protect themselves from gavachos and their xenophobic vitriol. Hell no to gentrification of L.A., elotes, palletas and tacos for sell on every corner.</p>
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		<title>By: Celeste Fremon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celeste Fremon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes to all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes to all.</p>
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		<title>By: don quixote</title>
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		<dc:creator>don quixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 05:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well one thing for sure, since prison segregation was instituted, supposedly to prevent violence, just the opposite has occured. The prisons are now run by gangs based on race and there has been a huge surge in racial violence, race riots and prison lockdowns are a daily occurence. 
Years ago a guy could do his time in relative peace, and if he didn&#039;t gang up he would be left alone. Not anymore, when a guy enters even the County jails he&#039;s immediately hit up by race based gangs and told where to sleep, when he can use the phone, who&#039;s in charge, what the rules are, and if there is a racial conflict he better be attacking whichever racial group is involved or he might &quot;wake up dead&quot;.
Segregation in prisons in retrospect just makes things worse like it does in society as a whole. 
And why we the taxpayers should be supporting huge numbers of non violent drug offenders(mostly Black and Latino), is absurd. One of the fastest growing industry&#039;s in the nation &quot;The Prison Industrial Complex&quot; , and the Prison Guards Union have been the driving force behind 
(lobbying for &quot;get tough on crime&quot; and the &quot;war on drugs&quot;), 
the huge increase in the prison population and it is based on money that is generated by prison construction and privately run prisons that are filled with mainly ethnic minority citizens.

Paraphrasing Mark Twain who remarked over a century ago, and it&#039;s still obviously true today, &quot;You can go to any country in the world and tell who the exploited people are, just visit the country&#039;s prison&#039;s and you&#039;ll clearly see who they are&quot;,
Still true today in California, which has more people incarcerated than all the &quot;civilized countries&quot; of the world combined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well one thing for sure, since prison segregation was instituted, supposedly to prevent violence, just the opposite has occured. The prisons are now run by gangs based on race and there has been a huge surge in racial violence, race riots and prison lockdowns are a daily occurence.<br />
Years ago a guy could do his time in relative peace, and if he didn&#8217;t gang up he would be left alone. Not anymore, when a guy enters even the County jails he&#8217;s immediately hit up by race based gangs and told where to sleep, when he can use the phone, who&#8217;s in charge, what the rules are, and if there is a racial conflict he better be attacking whichever racial group is involved or he might &#8220;wake up dead&#8221;.<br />
Segregation in prisons in retrospect just makes things worse like it does in society as a whole.<br />
And why we the taxpayers should be supporting huge numbers of non violent drug offenders(mostly Black and Latino), is absurd. One of the fastest growing industry&#8217;s in the nation &#8220;The Prison Industrial Complex&#8221; , and the Prison Guards Union have been the driving force behind<br />
(lobbying for &#8220;get tough on crime&#8221; and the &#8220;war on drugs&#8221;),<br />
the huge increase in the prison population and it is based on money that is generated by prison construction and privately run prisons that are filled with mainly ethnic minority citizens.</p>
<p>Paraphrasing Mark Twain who remarked over a century ago, and it&#8217;s still obviously true today, &#8220;You can go to any country in the world and tell who the exploited people are, just visit the country&#8217;s prison&#8217;s and you&#8217;ll clearly see who they are&#8221;,<br />
Still true today in California, which has more people incarcerated than all the &#8220;civilized countries&#8221; of the world combined.</p>
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		<title>By: Lost Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lost Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 02:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have wonderful solution to prison overcrowding and dumb ass gang bangers. California should execute the same number of violent criminals as the number of truly innocent babies killed in abortions. We should have equality when it comes to death penalties requested by liberals and conservatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have wonderful solution to prison overcrowding and dumb ass gang bangers. California should execute the same number of violent criminals as the number of truly innocent babies killed in abortions. We should have equality when it comes to death penalties requested by liberals and conservatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O&#039;Connor &amp; Kennedy are liberal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O&#8217;Connor &amp; Kennedy are liberal?</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 23:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the integration of California prisons, I guess they figured, if black kids couldn&#039;t learn unless they were around white students, then the white inmates must be a good influence on the black ones, too.  Right?  Well, the Supreme Cout majority did use the school analogy of &lt;i&gt;Brown v. BoE&lt;/i&gt; to support the decision.  Maybe they need more diversity in the prisons.  

Of course, they could let out all of the black prisoners to solve the legal issue and to reduce the prison budget at the same time.

Now, which Supreme Court justices voted to order prison de-segregation in &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/racial-segregation-in-prison-may-be-curbed/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Johnson v. California&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;?

Sandra Day O&#039;Connor
Anthony M. Kennedy
David H. Souter
Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Stephen G. Breyer

Why, it&#039;s all your favorites!

What about John Paul Stevens?  Well, he dissented because he wanted the ruling to go even further!  

So, who voted the &quot;right way?&quot;

Clarence Thomas
Antonin Scalia

Well, there&#039;s &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; stupid ones.  

(Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist did not vote being ill with cancer.)

Thanks, liberals!  You can consider any prison murders from this to be the blood on your hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the integration of California prisons, I guess they figured, if black kids couldn&#8217;t learn unless they were around white students, then the white inmates must be a good influence on the black ones, too.  Right?  Well, the Supreme Cout majority did use the school analogy of <i>Brown v. BoE</i> to support the decision.  Maybe they need more diversity in the prisons.  </p>
<p>Of course, they could let out all of the black prisoners to solve the legal issue and to reduce the prison budget at the same time.</p>
<p>Now, which Supreme Court justices voted to order prison de-segregation in <i><b><a href="http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/racial-segregation-in-prison-may-be-curbed/" rel="nofollow">Johnson v. California</a></b></i>?</p>
<p>Sandra Day O&#8217;Connor<br />
Anthony M. Kennedy<br />
David H. Souter<br />
Ruth Bader Ginsburg<br />
Stephen G. Breyer</p>
<p>Why, it&#8217;s all your favorites!</p>
<p>What about John Paul Stevens?  Well, he dissented because he wanted the ruling to go even further!  </p>
<p>So, who voted the &#8220;right way?&#8221;</p>
<p>Clarence Thomas<br />
Antonin Scalia</p>
<p>Well, there&#8217;s <i>your</i> stupid ones.  </p>
<p>(Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist did not vote being ill with cancer.)</p>
<p>Thanks, liberals!  You can consider any prison murders from this to be the blood on your hands.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t parole convicts--just send them to Europe, where the people and politicians don&#039;t mind living among murderers and theives who are let out early.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t parole convicts&#8211;just send them to Europe, where the people and politicians don&#8217;t mind living among murderers and theives who are let out early.</p>
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