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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh by the way it IS policy.  If you resist an LAPD officer today we are trained and authorized to ask again when non-communicative, apply a hands-on joint or wrist lock when non-compliant, use less-than-lethal force (baton, pepper-spray, distraction strikes, bean-bag shotgun, etc) when a subject is aggressive or combative with us, and finally deadly force when we have an In-Defense-Of-Life situation either my own or someone elses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh by the way it IS policy.  If you resist an LAPD officer today we are trained and authorized to ask again when non-communicative, apply a hands-on joint or wrist lock when non-compliant, use less-than-lethal force (baton, pepper-spray, distraction strikes, bean-bag shotgun, etc) when a subject is aggressive or combative with us, and finally deadly force when we have an In-Defense-Of-Life situation either my own or someone elses.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard, what do you expect the cops to do?  Ask him nicely to stop resisting and hope and pray that he does?  All critics like yourself have no answer for that.  Sometimes when you make an arrest or just talk to someone they want to fight you.  Should we just stand there and take it?  Again, policing is NOT pretty, sometimes violence occurs.  That is the unfortunate reality.  It&#039;s very easy easy to tell you are not a police officer because you have no clue as to what is REALLY happening.
Educate yourself before you pop off at the mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, what do you expect the cops to do?  Ask him nicely to stop resisting and hope and pray that he does?  All critics like yourself have no answer for that.  Sometimes when you make an arrest or just talk to someone they want to fight you.  Should we just stand there and take it?  Again, policing is NOT pretty, sometimes violence occurs.  That is the unfortunate reality.  It&#8217;s very easy easy to tell you are not a police officer because you have no clue as to what is REALLY happening.<br />
Educate yourself before you pop off at the mouth.</p>
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		<title>By: richard locicero</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard locicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that was &quot;policy&quot;
 no wonder we had riots in &#039;92. And thank God we got rid of Daryl Gates,

Here&#039;s a hint: Police are CIVIL Law Enforcement. Not an occupying Army. Sorry guys if you want to fight join the real Army and give the rest of us a break!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that was &#8220;policy&#8221;<br />
 no wonder we had riots in &#8216;92. And thank God we got rid of Daryl Gates,</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a hint: Police are CIVIL Law Enforcement. Not an occupying Army. Sorry guys if you want to fight join the real Army and give the rest of us a break!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/lapd/2008/admin/suicide-on-the-force/comment-page-1/#comment-10402</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Woody. What the majority of people do not understand in regards to Rodney King is that the police officers involved were following department policy.  They were taught a use of force policy that starts with verbal commands, when those don&#039;t work, you attempt compliance through wrist locks or joint locks, when that deosn&#039;t work you have to escalate into a higher level of use of force all the way up to deadly force.  What everyone saw, or should I say didn&#039;t see, was that the officers involved had reached that higher level of use of force where nothing prior worked, King was continually compbative, they even swarmeed him, and with the aid of a PCP-induced state of mind, he effortlessly shrugged 800 pounds of officers off of him.  What do you do?  You refer to your training that you were taught in the academy and you escalate your use of force to accommodate an aggressive-combative suspect.  Well into using verbal commands, non-compliant joint locks, swarming, the officers had to finally pull out their batons (they actually have a purpose) and begin to give distraction strikes to gain compliance.  You strike, back off, and then give commands.  None of this was working on King and he continually resisted and even charged at police officers.  Complinace was eventually gained, but not before a recording captured the entire incident completely out of context. The recording was then shown to an audience largely unfamiliar with police or LAPD use of force training, and drawn further out of context by a liberal media.  Those officers NEVER should have faced discipline.  Police work is not pretty, sometimes you have to use force!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Woody. What the majority of people do not understand in regards to Rodney King is that the police officers involved were following department policy.  They were taught a use of force policy that starts with verbal commands, when those don&#8217;t work, you attempt compliance through wrist locks or joint locks, when that deosn&#8217;t work you have to escalate into a higher level of use of force all the way up to deadly force.  What everyone saw, or should I say didn&#8217;t see, was that the officers involved had reached that higher level of use of force where nothing prior worked, King was continually compbative, they even swarmeed him, and with the aid of a PCP-induced state of mind, he effortlessly shrugged 800 pounds of officers off of him.  What do you do?  You refer to your training that you were taught in the academy and you escalate your use of force to accommodate an aggressive-combative suspect.  Well into using verbal commands, non-compliant joint locks, swarming, the officers had to finally pull out their batons (they actually have a purpose) and begin to give distraction strikes to gain compliance.  You strike, back off, and then give commands.  None of this was working on King and he continually resisted and even charged at police officers.  Complinace was eventually gained, but not before a recording captured the entire incident completely out of context. The recording was then shown to an audience largely unfamiliar with police or LAPD use of force training, and drawn further out of context by a liberal media.  Those officers NEVER should have faced discipline.  Police work is not pretty, sometimes you have to use force!</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Officers learn very early on that they have to always be right.Ã¢â‚¬Â&lt;/i&gt;

And who is it that is always suing or attacking police for every little thing that wasn&#039;t done perfectly?  It&#039;s the ACLU, the liberals, the media, and spineless politicians.  A criticism that I had for the police is that it took too many blows to get Rodney King under control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Officers learn very early on that they have to always be right.Ã¢â‚¬Â</i></p>
<p>And who is it that is always suing or attacking police for every little thing that wasn&#8217;t done perfectly?  It&#8217;s the ACLU, the liberals, the media, and spineless politicians.  A criticism that I had for the police is that it took too many blows to get Rodney King under control.</p>
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