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		<title>By: poplockerone</title>
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		<dc:creator>poplockerone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reg - stick to your comments of knowing zero knowledge of what goes on....jack shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reg &#8211; stick to your comments of knowing zero knowledge of what goes on&#8230;.jack shit.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/gangs/2009/admin/alex-sanchez-part-3-the-bail-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-159298</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poplock is like the guy in AA who just knows...knows...that one drop of alcohol will...fuck him up. And everybody&#039;s just like him.  Except the view from the high fucking horse is about as valid as from the gutter and there&#039;s a through line of arrogance from where you were to where you are that diminishes your credibility.  You remind me of David Horowitz...and asshole of the left who decided to change his lifed...do a total 180...and become an asshole of the right.  Everybody ain&#039;t you.  And I&#039;ve read enough of your comments here to know you&#039;re no fucking genius, despite your journey. Give it a rest...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poplock is like the guy in AA who just knows&#8230;knows&#8230;that one drop of alcohol will&#8230;fuck him up. And everybody&#8217;s just like him.  Except the view from the high fucking horse is about as valid as from the gutter and there&#8217;s a through line of arrogance from where you were to where you are that diminishes your credibility.  You remind me of David Horowitz&#8230;and asshole of the left who decided to change his lifed&#8230;do a total 180&#8230;and become an asshole of the right.  Everybody ain&#8217;t you.  And I&#8217;ve read enough of your comments here to know you&#8217;re no fucking genius, despite your journey. Give it a rest&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CF - thanks for that helpful response to my Q.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CF &#8211; thanks for that helpful response to my Q.</p>
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		<title>By: poplockerone</title>
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		<dc:creator>poplockerone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 02:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can you put Alex Sanchez in the same sentence or grape bowl with the other two individuals mentioned. Thats a slap to those people&#039;s faces.
Maybe if you compare him to Big Weasel, Spider, Bow Wow, Blinky....ect. Then I would agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can you put Alex Sanchez in the same sentence or grape bowl with the other two individuals mentioned. Thats a slap to those people&#8217;s faces.<br />
Maybe if you compare him to Big Weasel, Spider, Bow Wow, Blinky&#8230;.ect. Then I would agree with you.</p>
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		<title>By: Celeste Fremon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celeste Fremon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you speak from your experience, poplockerone, instead of randomly throwing tomatoes at me, it&#039;s always interesting.

And, although I disagree with you about a few specific cases--- namely people Alex Sanchez, Aquil Basheer, the late Bo Taylor, and the like--- by and large I completely agree with your premise that those who want to get out, can only do so by moving away from the neighborhood, and having zero to do with anything gang related.  In all but very rare cases, that&#039;s the only thing that works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you speak from your experience, poplockerone, instead of randomly throwing tomatoes at me, it&#8217;s always interesting.</p>
<p>And, although I disagree with you about a few specific cases&#8212; namely people Alex Sanchez, Aquil Basheer, the late Bo Taylor, and the like&#8212; by and large I completely agree with your premise that those who want to get out, can only do so by moving away from the neighborhood, and having zero to do with anything gang related.  In all but very rare cases, that&#8217;s the only thing that works.</p>
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		<title>By: poplockerone</title>
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		<dc:creator>poplockerone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 22:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I irriate you....but out of those 30 guys you wrote about, I already knew what happened to most of them even before you wrote about it. My facts and details are always very different than the ones you play out in your book. 
The main concept that you dont understand is very simple. When a person grows up and is involved in this type of negative criminal behavior, they want to live life as far away from it as possible, ashamed that someone knows their past actions and identity. They dont advertise that they were a gang member or least of all- plays the part of the so called gang interventionist.
There are only three types of gang interventionists people - 1 - to steal money from government grants 2 - launder your dirty money from drug connected proceeds 2 - because you a green lighter and obtaining protection from whatever crooked individual is running that program.    
If your really out of &quot;it&quot;, your going to do everything in your power to focus on yourself and your immediate family members. You expect nothing in return - no accords no awards.  If you take the time to help someone out, its going to be because it was an unintentional contact - a setting where you only get a one time shot at it.  
You straight out have to tell that street kid that your not there to play daddy, not their big homie and most imporantly - your not there to hold their little hand on how to live life - your just kicking down some good advice on how one regrets living one own&#039;s miserable jacked-up life - take it or leave it. 
That&#039;s just the beginning of it....
I ran into a cousin the other day at a family gathering. An ex-gang member from Compton I haven&#039;t seen for like 7 years. I told him about how some little youngster in his old neighborhood was using his street moniker - the youngster of course didn&#039;t even know that more than 30 years back there was another guy with the some moniker - but seriously more ruthless. My cousin respectfully requested from me not to tell the youngster about him or his stories. My cousin stated that he doesn&#039;t want anyone to remember him nor does he ever want to be remembered as a gang member.  Today, he does everything in his power not to glorify his life as a gang member. His kids are all skaters and into little league baseball tounaments.  
He blames the devil for those years of trying to kill people and doing hard drugs. He tried suicide three times. He stated that he lives life peaceful today and accepts the internal pain, hurt, and guilt - knowing that he will never be forgiven by God almight for the people he hurted in his past. He just wants to live a normal life and not be looked down upon like a walking outcast or a reject vet.  He just wants internal peace and forgiveness for his wrongdoings and sins. Something he states and believes that he may never ever obtained. 
Today, he is a mananger at a resturant and attends a christian church weekly. Donates his time at the Church trying to save people from addiction.   
How did he change? 
About 9 years ago, his drug connect shot his own homie in the head over three pounds of methamphetamine.
He said to himself - Is three pounds worth killing your own homie? The godfather of your kid? 
Shit, I guess he figured it all out - the truth of the gang game -  You could be next. 
That made him drop out of being a fucking criminal and I&#039;m proud of him. 
Now ask him about your boy - Alex Sanchez, and see what he has to tell you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I irriate you&#8230;.but out of those 30 guys you wrote about, I already knew what happened to most of them even before you wrote about it. My facts and details are always very different than the ones you play out in your book.<br />
The main concept that you dont understand is very simple. When a person grows up and is involved in this type of negative criminal behavior, they want to live life as far away from it as possible, ashamed that someone knows their past actions and identity. They dont advertise that they were a gang member or least of all- plays the part of the so called gang interventionist.<br />
There are only three types of gang interventionists people &#8211; 1 &#8211; to steal money from government grants 2 &#8211; launder your dirty money from drug connected proceeds 2 &#8211; because you a green lighter and obtaining protection from whatever crooked individual is running that program.<br />
If your really out of &#8220;it&#8221;, your going to do everything in your power to focus on yourself and your immediate family members. You expect nothing in return &#8211; no accords no awards.  If you take the time to help someone out, its going to be because it was an unintentional contact &#8211; a setting where you only get a one time shot at it.<br />
You straight out have to tell that street kid that your not there to play daddy, not their big homie and most imporantly &#8211; your not there to hold their little hand on how to live life &#8211; your just kicking down some good advice on how one regrets living one own&#8217;s miserable jacked-up life &#8211; take it or leave it.<br />
That&#8217;s just the beginning of it&#8230;.<br />
I ran into a cousin the other day at a family gathering. An ex-gang member from Compton I haven&#8217;t seen for like 7 years. I told him about how some little youngster in his old neighborhood was using his street moniker &#8211; the youngster of course didn&#8217;t even know that more than 30 years back there was another guy with the some moniker &#8211; but seriously more ruthless. My cousin respectfully requested from me not to tell the youngster about him or his stories. My cousin stated that he doesn&#8217;t want anyone to remember him nor does he ever want to be remembered as a gang member.  Today, he does everything in his power not to glorify his life as a gang member. His kids are all skaters and into little league baseball tounaments.<br />
He blames the devil for those years of trying to kill people and doing hard drugs. He tried suicide three times. He stated that he lives life peaceful today and accepts the internal pain, hurt, and guilt &#8211; knowing that he will never be forgiven by God almight for the people he hurted in his past. He just wants to live a normal life and not be looked down upon like a walking outcast or a reject vet.  He just wants internal peace and forgiveness for his wrongdoings and sins. Something he states and believes that he may never ever obtained.<br />
Today, he is a mananger at a resturant and attends a christian church weekly. Donates his time at the Church trying to save people from addiction.<br />
How did he change?<br />
About 9 years ago, his drug connect shot his own homie in the head over three pounds of methamphetamine.<br />
He said to himself &#8211; Is three pounds worth killing your own homie? The godfather of your kid?<br />
Shit, I guess he figured it all out &#8211; the truth of the gang game &#8211;  You could be next.<br />
That made him drop out of being a fucking criminal and I&#8217;m proud of him.<br />
Now ask him about your boy &#8211; Alex Sanchez, and see what he has to tell you.</p>
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		<title>By: Celeste Fremon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celeste Fremon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 06:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respect what you&#039;ve done with your life, particularly given your past, as you&#039;ve laid it out here at times.  And if Father Greg gave you the book, that meant he respected you too.

But the assumptions you make about me, what my experiences have been,  and about what and whom I know are:  A.  Dead wrong.  B.  Leave no room for  conversation, and C:  Really, &lt;em&gt; really &lt;/em&gt; irritating.

PS:  If you read the book, and if for some reason you don&#039;t have the 2008 version (there are three versions: 1995, 2004, and 2008), I&#039;ll e-mail you a copy of the new epilogue, which is the primary difference between the versions.  It tells what has happened to 30 of the main characters in the book in the fourteen years since the book&#039;s narrative ended.  

Out of the 30, some are dead, some are locked up for a very long time, some are still pretty messed up, and some are soccer dads whose lives are very, very different from those they led as teenagers.  People can change.  Even hard core gang members.  Not all are able or willing to do so.  But some are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect what you&#8217;ve done with your life, particularly given your past, as you&#8217;ve laid it out here at times.  And if Father Greg gave you the book, that meant he respected you too.</p>
<p>But the assumptions you make about me, what my experiences have been,  and about what and whom I know are:  A.  Dead wrong.  B.  Leave no room for  conversation, and C:  Really, <em> really </em> irritating.</p>
<p>PS:  If you read the book, and if for some reason you don&#8217;t have the 2008 version (there are three versions: 1995, 2004, and 2008), I&#8217;ll e-mail you a copy of the new epilogue, which is the primary difference between the versions.  It tells what has happened to 30 of the main characters in the book in the fourteen years since the book&#8217;s narrative ended.  </p>
<p>Out of the 30, some are dead, some are locked up for a very long time, some are still pretty messed up, and some are soccer dads whose lives are very, very different from those they led as teenagers.  People can change.  Even hard core gang members.  Not all are able or willing to do so.  But some are.</p>
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		<title>By: poplockerone</title>
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		<dc:creator>poplockerone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I have that right to demoized everyone in my community - because I grew up in that community. I was one of those disadvantage kids, a product of a place and time much worst than the guys you defend and still made it with  higher degrees. So, you people can not bullshit a guy that knows almost everyone in their mother involved in this criminal game.
By the way, many years back Father G gave gave me that book as a gift - no need to buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I have that right to demoized everyone in my community &#8211; because I grew up in that community. I was one of those disadvantage kids, a product of a place and time much worst than the guys you defend and still made it with  higher degrees. So, you people can not bullshit a guy that knows almost everyone in their mother involved in this criminal game.<br />
By the way, many years back Father G gave gave me that book as a gift &#8211; no need to buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Celeste Fremon</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/gangs/2009/admin/alex-sanchez-part-3-the-bail-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-158799</link>
		<dc:creator>Celeste Fremon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I&#039;m wrong I&#039;ll acknowledge publicly that Alex Sanchez is a far more skillful sociopath than I&#039;ve previously encountered. 

And if I&#039;m right what are you putting up, poplockerone?

As for my sources, I know that it&#039;s a comforting perspective for you and some elements within law enforcement (not all, by any means) to dismiss me and people like me as naive.  God forbid that the bleeding heart, middle-aged white chick living in Topanga should, in certain instances, have better street sources than yours, what with you being all bad and everything.  

That would really suck.

Here&#039;s the thing:  According to what you have just commented, you believe that every gang member or former gang member is a one-dimensional, irredeemable criminal for life.  That means that you have effectively demonized the sons, brothers, uncles, nephews, and fathers of a lot of the members of the communities that you purportedly serve. 

So how honest do you think those community members with those sons, brothers, etc. are going to be with you about who is or isn&#039;t committing what crimes?  

Read my book &lt;em&gt;G-Dog and Homeboys&lt;/em&gt; and get back to me.  It&#039;s a mere $13.57 right now on Amazon.

I dare you.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I&#8217;m wrong I&#8217;ll acknowledge publicly that Alex Sanchez is a far more skillful sociopath than I&#8217;ve previously encountered. </p>
<p>And if I&#8217;m right what are you putting up, poplockerone?</p>
<p>As for my sources, I know that it&#8217;s a comforting perspective for you and some elements within law enforcement (not all, by any means) to dismiss me and people like me as naive.  God forbid that the bleeding heart, middle-aged white chick living in Topanga should, in certain instances, have better street sources than yours, what with you being all bad and everything.  </p>
<p>That would really suck.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing:  According to what you have just commented, you believe that every gang member or former gang member is a one-dimensional, irredeemable criminal for life.  That means that you have effectively demonized the sons, brothers, uncles, nephews, and fathers of a lot of the members of the communities that you purportedly serve. </p>
<p>So how honest do you think those community members with those sons, brothers, etc. are going to be with you about who is or isn&#8217;t committing what crimes?  </p>
<p>Read my book <em>G-Dog and Homeboys</em> and get back to me.  It&#8217;s a mere $13.57 right now on Amazon.</p>
<p>I dare you.</p>
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		<title>By: poplockerone</title>
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		<dc:creator>poplockerone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the bet. 
If Sanchez is found guilty, then you will have to shut down your blog permanently Ms. Fremon. 
Why?
The majority of your so called &quot;inside people&quot; that you say feed you information are totally wrong and are just moronic idiots. Seems that all the people you say you talk to - talk to you becuase they know nothing about what is really going on behind the workings of gangs in Los Angeles. Your becoming somewhat of a laughable topic around my peers. People talk to you because you give them an ear and you seem to be easily convinced - feeling sorry for some tattoo bald head mexican guy with the sorry excuse of having grown up in a social cesspool. You only listen to those that meet your self believed criteria of a self invented lie - gangmembers can be good human beings - NOT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the bet.<br />
If Sanchez is found guilty, then you will have to shut down your blog permanently Ms. Fremon.<br />
Why?<br />
The majority of your so called &#8220;inside people&#8221; that you say feed you information are totally wrong and are just moronic idiots. Seems that all the people you say you talk to &#8211; talk to you becuase they know nothing about what is really going on behind the workings of gangs in Los Angeles. Your becoming somewhat of a laughable topic around my peers. People talk to you because you give them an ear and you seem to be easily convinced &#8211; feeling sorry for some tattoo bald head mexican guy with the sorry excuse of having grown up in a social cesspool. You only listen to those that meet your self believed criteria of a self invented lie &#8211; gangmembers can be good human beings &#8211; NOT!</p>
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