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		<title>By: ST</title>
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		<dc:creator>ST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Downey Jr is playing Steve Lopez in an upcoming movie...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0821642/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Downey Jr is playing Steve Lopez in an upcoming movie&#8230;<br />
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		<title>By: Lost Resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lost Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc Cooper and Rosa Brooks would make a lovely couple, they have a few passions in common.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc Cooper and Rosa Brooks would make a lovely couple, they have a few passions in common.</p>
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		<title>By: WBC</title>
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		<dc:creator>WBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a Letter to the Editor in today&#039;s L A Times that&#039;s too a propos to pass up mentioning here:  Margaret Daugherty writes, &quot;Rosa Brooks&#039; column is an expression of pure animus toward Hillary Rodham Clinton with no redeeming logic.&quot;  (Yes, nicely put -- substitute any target/ subject she&#039;s writing about.)  

Daugherty concludes, &quot;Wouldn&#039;t it have been better just to put a statement saying, &#039;Rosa Brooks hates Hillary Clinton, check this space periodically for updates?&#039;&quot;  Yup.  Better yet, in a time of budget cuts, the Times should give her space to someone who can make good use of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a Letter to the Editor in today&#8217;s L A Times that&#8217;s too a propos to pass up mentioning here:  Margaret Daugherty writes, &#8220;Rosa Brooks&#8217; column is an expression of pure animus toward Hillary Rodham Clinton with no redeeming logic.&#8221;  (Yes, nicely put &#8212; substitute any target/ subject she&#8217;s writing about.)  </p>
<p>Daugherty concludes, &#8220;Wouldn&#8217;t it have been better just to put a statement saying, &#8216;Rosa Brooks hates Hillary Clinton, check this space periodically for updates?&#8217;&#8221;  Yup.  Better yet, in a time of budget cuts, the Times should give her space to someone who can make good use of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lost Resident</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/gangs/2008/admin/la-gang-wars-iv-steve-lopez-throws-down/comment-page-1/#comment-9632</link>
		<dc:creator>Lost Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PopLock,
History of when &quot;reformed&quot; gangsters run gang intervention programs.

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http://www.policemag.com/Channels/Gangs/2007/07/25/History-of-the-Mexican-Mafia-Prison-Gang.aspx

During this period, the Mexican Mafia under the direction of Cadena infiltrated and gained control of numerous community organizations. The League of United Citizens to Help Addicts (LUCHA), Project Get Going, Community Concern, Special Program for Alcoholism and Narcotics (SPAN), and several other narcotic and alcohol prevention programs were systematically taken over and looted to provide money, influence, and vehicles for La EME. The gang used these taxpayer resources to buy drugs and murder its enemies. When Ellen Delia, the wife of Project Get Going director Michael Delia, threatened to expose the corruption to the State Senate, she was murdered in Sacramento. This system of infiltration and takeover of &quot;self help&quot; and gang prevention organizations continues to be one of the Mexican Mafia&#039;s favorite tactics today. They utilize corrupt and gullible politicians, policemen, churches, and attorneys to gain control of these resources.


The Community Concern Corporation and Get Going Project were two programs that were taken over by the EME in the mid-1970&#039;s.

Community Concern was headed by Rafael &quot;Chispas&quot; Sandoval (a street gang member from Hoyo Maravilla and longtime EME soldier) who attempted to legitimize himself by running for councilman in L.A. against Art Snyder. They engaged in heated debates on television and radio and Snyder persuaded the city council to disqualify CCC for $300,000 in federal funds. EME&#039;s infiltration of CCC culminated after two CCC &quot;employees&quot; - Evarito &quot;Little Blanco&quot; Blanco and William &quot;Wild Bill&quot; Robles - were &quot;terminated&quot; by EME gunmen in 1976.

â€œChispasâ€ criminal record had somehow been sealed during this political struggle and Snyder succeeded in shedding light on the fact that not only was Chispas a made member but also had celled with Joe Morgan while in state prison. Snyder, whose family would require 24-hour LAPD surveillance and protection, prevailed at the ballot box and &quot;Chispas&quot; was sent packing.

Get Going was in full operation from 1976 thru 1977 due to the efforts of Michael and Ellen Delia.
This halfway house for parolees was allowed to function with a staff that was replaced by EME members as &quot;ghost slots&quot; were created for their employment.

Not only were they being paid for doing nothing but the company cars (which were supposed to take new parolees to job interviews) made the rounds throughout California as &quot;hit cars&quot;.

Over thirty EME executions took place over a ten month period with at least a dozen occurring between January 9 thru February 18, 1977. Many of these were performed by Alfredo â€œAlfieâ€ Sosa (he later pled guilty to about 4 or 5 of these) who is described by a former EME member in his writings as â€œthe Joe Pesciâ€ of the Mexican Mafia. 

Most of these killings took place in Get Going&#039;s company leased cars and one 1977 Pontiac Cutlass Supreme in particular had the dubious distinction of being involved in hits in Sacramento, Hayward, Fresno and Los Angeles. Once again, Alfie was involved in hits in each of these cities with multiples in Los Angeles. I guess you could say he was intimately acquainted with the Cutlass.

It was the execution of Ellen Delia in Sacramento that drew LE&#039;s attention to Get Going and ultimately to the Mob that many in the barrios looked upon as &quot;pillars of the community&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PopLock,<br />
History of when &#8220;reformed&#8221; gangsters run gang intervention programs.</p>
<p>**************************************</p>
<p><a href="http://www.policemag.com/Channels/Gangs/2007/07/25/History-of-the-Mexican-Mafia-Prison-Gang.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.policemag.com/Channels/Gangs/2007/07/25/History-of-the-Mexican-Mafia-Prison-Gang.aspx</a></p>
<p>During this period, the Mexican Mafia under the direction of Cadena infiltrated and gained control of numerous community organizations. The League of United Citizens to Help Addicts (LUCHA), Project Get Going, Community Concern, Special Program for Alcoholism and Narcotics (SPAN), and several other narcotic and alcohol prevention programs were systematically taken over and looted to provide money, influence, and vehicles for La EME. The gang used these taxpayer resources to buy drugs and murder its enemies. When Ellen Delia, the wife of Project Get Going director Michael Delia, threatened to expose the corruption to the State Senate, she was murdered in Sacramento. This system of infiltration and takeover of &#8220;self help&#8221; and gang prevention organizations continues to be one of the Mexican Mafia&#8217;s favorite tactics today. They utilize corrupt and gullible politicians, policemen, churches, and attorneys to gain control of these resources.</p>
<p>The Community Concern Corporation and Get Going Project were two programs that were taken over by the EME in the mid-1970&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Community Concern was headed by Rafael &#8220;Chispas&#8221; Sandoval (a street gang member from Hoyo Maravilla and longtime EME soldier) who attempted to legitimize himself by running for councilman in L.A. against Art Snyder. They engaged in heated debates on television and radio and Snyder persuaded the city council to disqualify CCC for $300,000 in federal funds. EME&#8217;s infiltration of CCC culminated after two CCC &#8220;employees&#8221; &#8211; Evarito &#8220;Little Blanco&#8221; Blanco and William &#8220;Wild Bill&#8221; Robles &#8211; were &#8220;terminated&#8221; by EME gunmen in 1976.</p>
<p>â€œChispasâ€ criminal record had somehow been sealed during this political struggle and Snyder succeeded in shedding light on the fact that not only was Chispas a made member but also had celled with Joe Morgan while in state prison. Snyder, whose family would require 24-hour LAPD surveillance and protection, prevailed at the ballot box and &#8220;Chispas&#8221; was sent packing.</p>
<p>Get Going was in full operation from 1976 thru 1977 due to the efforts of Michael and Ellen Delia.<br />
This halfway house for parolees was allowed to function with a staff that was replaced by EME members as &#8220;ghost slots&#8221; were created for their employment.</p>
<p>Not only were they being paid for doing nothing but the company cars (which were supposed to take new parolees to job interviews) made the rounds throughout California as &#8220;hit cars&#8221;.</p>
<p>Over thirty EME executions took place over a ten month period with at least a dozen occurring between January 9 thru February 18, 1977. Many of these were performed by Alfredo â€œAlfieâ€ Sosa (he later pled guilty to about 4 or 5 of these) who is described by a former EME member in his writings as â€œthe Joe Pesciâ€ of the Mexican Mafia. </p>
<p>Most of these killings took place in Get Going&#8217;s company leased cars and one 1977 Pontiac Cutlass Supreme in particular had the dubious distinction of being involved in hits in Sacramento, Hayward, Fresno and Los Angeles. Once again, Alfie was involved in hits in each of these cities with multiples in Los Angeles. I guess you could say he was intimately acquainted with the Cutlass.</p>
<p>It was the execution of Ellen Delia in Sacramento that drew LE&#8217;s attention to Get Going and ultimately to the Mob that many in the barrios looked upon as &#8220;pillars of the community&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Celeste Fremon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celeste Fremon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Polock. Thanks for chiming in.

(On your very last point: I like Blinky much better than you do.  But, like you, I have problems with many of his methods.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Polock. Thanks for chiming in.</p>
<p>(On your very last point: I like Blinky much better than you do.  But, like you, I have problems with many of his methods.)</p>
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		<title>By: PoLoCk</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoLoCk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, LA Resident made a good point.
I like to add,  
Promoting the &quot;gangster&quot; or &quot;cholo&quot; dress and lifestyle is not part of the Mexican or Latino American experience. 
Those that promote this lifestyle and accept this way of life - are all uneducated assholes (that includes Blinky).
 Mexicans from Mexico did not invent the cholo or the LA gangbanging world. It has no place in our culture or history - its a unwanted eyesore and totally disrespects what a good law-abiding, educated, or hard working Mexican/American stands for. 
I not going to let some ex-felon try to talk to me in a half ass ghetto language that is not accepted in my own house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, LA Resident made a good point.<br />
I like to add,<br />
Promoting the &#8220;gangster&#8221; or &#8220;cholo&#8221; dress and lifestyle is not part of the Mexican or Latino American experience.<br />
Those that promote this lifestyle and accept this way of life &#8211; are all uneducated assholes (that includes Blinky).<br />
 Mexicans from Mexico did not invent the cholo or the LA gangbanging world. It has no place in our culture or history &#8211; its a unwanted eyesore and totally disrespects what a good law-abiding, educated, or hard working Mexican/American stands for.<br />
I not going to let some ex-felon try to talk to me in a half ass ghetto language that is not accepted in my own house.</p>
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		<title>By: PoLoCk</title>
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		<dc:creator>PoLoCk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is my take. 
Paul White and the West Valley Leadership Academy has a long standing history of not tolerating gang members  crisis or behavioral problems.  Its not a school that provides any extensive services to high risk gang kids or to their parents. So, in all truth, Lopez decided to interview one of the least experienced people or specialist in this field. The school has very narrow and strict guidelines, gang members get booted and thrown out ASAP. All and all, when it comes to gang intervention and prevention, Paul White is a nobody in the Valley or in LA period. His badmouthing on Father-G&#039;s Homeboy Industries is so incorrect.  G - is not in this game for any political ass rubs or illegal kickbacks. Father-G does not need government money to run his various programs.  However, government needs Father-G - because his programs are all working (with no strings attached or media spotlights).  When do you see Father-G crying to the LA City Council or County Departments for monetary funding?  
Organizations that hires an administration with no gang ties or special connected political interest will always be successful. Your paying people to do a job and not to promote your self greedy individual political bullshit.
An organization that is ran and headed by a person that has his own political and personal agenda should never be funded by LA Tax payers money. This practice has been on-going in LA for quite some time.   
 The biggest error that Lopez makes is placing that idiot -Blinky from &quot;Clowns in Showbusiness&quot; in the same article with Father-G. 
All this guys cares about is getting funded that money that Cardenas is trying to control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my take.<br />
Paul White and the West Valley Leadership Academy has a long standing history of not tolerating gang members  crisis or behavioral problems.  Its not a school that provides any extensive services to high risk gang kids or to their parents. So, in all truth, Lopez decided to interview one of the least experienced people or specialist in this field. The school has very narrow and strict guidelines, gang members get booted and thrown out ASAP. All and all, when it comes to gang intervention and prevention, Paul White is a nobody in the Valley or in LA period. His badmouthing on Father-G&#8217;s Homeboy Industries is so incorrect.  G &#8211; is not in this game for any political ass rubs or illegal kickbacks. Father-G does not need government money to run his various programs.  However, government needs Father-G &#8211; because his programs are all working (with no strings attached or media spotlights).  When do you see Father-G crying to the LA City Council or County Departments for monetary funding?<br />
Organizations that hires an administration with no gang ties or special connected political interest will always be successful. Your paying people to do a job and not to promote your self greedy individual political bullshit.<br />
An organization that is ran and headed by a person that has his own political and personal agenda should never be funded by LA Tax payers money. This practice has been on-going in LA for quite some time.<br />
 The biggest error that Lopez makes is placing that idiot -Blinky from &#8220;Clowns in Showbusiness&#8221; in the same article with Father-G.<br />
All this guys cares about is getting funded that money that Cardenas is trying to control.</p>
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		<title>By: Life imitating art</title>
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		<dc:creator>Life imitating art</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 07:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Los Angeles also has some &quot;Kenard&quot; characters, who can also take down their Omar Little.
 http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/homicidereport/2008/03/south-central-3.html#comments

South-Central L.A.: Ricardo Rivera Jr., 18, a young Latino man, was fatally shot at about 9:15 p.m. in the 300 block of East 80th Street Thursday, March 13. Rivera was standing on the driveway when a 13-year-old youth approached and allegedly shot him. Los Angeles Fire Department paramedics pronounced Rivera dead at the scene. Police later arrested the 13-year-old youth on suspicion of murder that day. He was booked at Los Padrinos Juvenile Hall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Los Angeles also has some &#8220;Kenard&#8221; characters, who can also take down their Omar Little.<br />
 <a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/homicidereport/2008/03/south-central-3.html#comments" rel="nofollow">http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/homicidereport/2008/03/south-central-3.html#comments</a></p>
<p>South-Central L.A.: Ricardo Rivera Jr., 18, a young Latino man, was fatally shot at about 9:15 p.m. in the 300 block of East 80th Street Thursday, March 13. Rivera was standing on the driveway when a 13-year-old youth approached and allegedly shot him. Los Angeles Fire Department paramedics pronounced Rivera dead at the scene. Police later arrested the 13-year-old youth on suspicion of murder that day. He was booked at Los Padrinos Juvenile Hall.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 22:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the tornadoes, Georgia got a lot of rain, so Gov. Perdue&#039;s prayer was anwered, and CNN Center took a heavy hit, so Pat Robertson&#039;s prayer was answered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the tornadoes, Georgia got a lot of rain, so Gov. Perdue&#8217;s prayer was anwered, and CNN Center took a heavy hit, so Pat Robertson&#8217;s prayer was answered.</p>
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		<title>By: City Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>City Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody,

Since you havenâ€™t kept up with the comments, we are editing story title from;

LA Gang Wars IV: Steve Lopez Throws Down 

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&lt;b&gt;LA Witness Blog Gang Wars IV: WBC Throws Down &lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody,</p>
<p>Since you havenâ€™t kept up with the comments, we are editing story title from;</p>
<p>LA Gang Wars IV: Steve Lopez Throws Down </p>
<p>to</p>
<p><b>LA Witness Blog Gang Wars IV: WBC Throws Down </b></p>
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