Comments on: The Murderous Seasons of Newark, Oakland…and Los Angeles

By: Poplock

Poplock — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:52:24 +0000

Yeah, listen to Al Sharpton, he’ll teach a little brother how to snort that cocaine.
Sharpton is another jack ass that just uses the media to gain national fame with no clue of what is really occurring in minority communities and poverty stricten cities. I put him neck to neck with Connnie Rice’s bullcrapping opinions and their so called recommendations. We dont need these people getting paid to steal research material and talk out of their assess on issues that we all already know are not working. They talk their asses off recommending everything from letter A to Z and are completely clueless and out of touch to the people they are so called-trying to help. When I see people like Father-G, I respectfully shake his hand because he may not be able to solve all the ill issues of gang issues, but at least he knows when to cut the bullshit.

By: Woody

Woody — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 01:43:48 +0000

One last thing, we need to remember the subject of this post. Kids being murdered is horrible, and ideological differences should not stand in the way of trying to end crime and to catch the murderers.

By: Woody

Woody — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 01:12:12 +0000

On Sharpton, sometimes he gets things right and sometimes he avoids what is uncomfortable. (BTW, he's spoken at a church down the road from me two or three times.) Here's a cause that he has recently adopted: LINK: SHARPTON BATTLES RAP LYRICS

Al Sharpton has found his latest cause ... demanding that rappers stop using the n-word and degrading women. In fact, he is willing to go so far as to withdrawal government-run pension fund investments from entertainment conglomerates that distribute music with offensive lyrics. We're talking $3 billion worth of investments, to be exact. And that's just in New York State alone. Sharpton says, "The opposition has tried to use the argument of free speech, but they don't have the freedom to use peoples' pension funds against their own will and interest." OK .. so Sharpton is actually doing something positive here. Why stop at rap lyrics? Why not try to do something about the black, urban, anti-achievement culture that is crippling so many of our black youth? Come on, Al. Attacking the rap business, while a positive step, is rather easy. Why not do something about the very culture that feeds these businesses? Afraid to bite the hand that feeds you?

By: Woody

Woody — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 00:51:02 +0000

reg, it's amazing the research that you normally produce but that you can't find higher level attacks against Bill Cosby than the hip-hop crowd. It is your chronology that is wrong, because new revelations and claims of harrassment conveniently came up when Cosby started talking. It was like listening to the Clarence Thomas hearings. That'll teach Cosby and anyone else who tries to help millions of kids at the expense of being able to blame others and getting huge grants to solve nothing. If you have trouble understanding this, consider using the Ebonics Translator. But, remember...potential employers will not hire people if they have to use this.

By: "reg"

"reg" — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:45:48 +0000

I’ll embarrass myself a bit – after “finis” – and note, again just for the record, that the entire “ebonics” scam was about allocation of funds among different ethnic groups within the Oakland school district – an opportunistic, ill-considered and FAILED attempt by black school board members to get their hands on bilingual education funds allocated for immigrant kids (there are over a dozen primary languages in some East Oakland schools serving mostly poor kids) in order to institute additional English instruction for black kids, aimed at addressing their “non-standard” English and lack of marketable language skills. As half-assed as the proposal clearly was, the intent was, in fact, the opposite of what’s most often portrayed.

By: "reg"

"reg" — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:32:12 +0000

finis

By: "reg"

"reg" — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:29:44 +0000

that should have been “the current crop of white kids”…

By: "reg"

"reg" — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:29:11 +0000

Incidentally, the paternity suit against Cosby, which may or may not have been justified – I don’t find it productive to spend my time on such matters – was lodged in 1997. Cosby’s sharp and well-publicized remarks on evident problems among black youth and within too many black families, are circa 2005. So your chronology on the “concerted effort to destroy” him with “groping charges” doesn’t ring true.

Also, don’t tell me the current white kids don’t know more about and admire scumbag like 50 Cent more than they know or admire Frederick Douglas…or Dwight Eisenhower for that matter. Black people don’t control the consumer and “pop” culture or the media (MTV, ESPN, etc) that drives it. When black capitalists DO get control of commercial media, i.e. BET, of course they tend to operate on the same profit-driven principles of selling sensationalism and the least-common denominator as their white “brothers and sisters.” What else is new ????

By: "reg"

"reg" — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:06:31 +0000

Woody, I’m far more familiar with the idiotic “ebonics” flap than you are. That old chestnut that caused a public furor and was dumped is a stretch, even for you. Second, you charged that “black leaders” – and by implication most black leaders and most of the black community – attacked Cosby and disagree with the thrust of his remarks. You have produced no proof of that. Even Sharpton agreed that Cosby had made important points and opened up an important discussion within the larger black community. If you can’t marshall Al Sharpton to prove what opportunistic demagogues “black leaders” are on a particular issue, you’re essentially talking out of your ass. Most of the digs at Cosby came from youngsters who saw it as an attack on hip hop by an “old guy”. So what is there for me to refute ?

You’re an idiot. And a racist in the tenor of your jumble of familiar cliches. “Grains of truth” aren’t good enough in discussions like this, if you expect people outside of the “Human Events” crowd to take your positions seriously.

I’m through with you on this because it’s just getting me more pissed off the more I read your nonsensical crap and bogus “challenges”.

By: Woody

Woody — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:26:28 +0000

Bull, reg. You’re running from the truth and real solutions as fast as you can with rationalizations and selective, outdated statistics.

Regarding Bill Cosby, perhaps you can enlighten us with all of the civil rights groups that have endorsed Cosby and made him a spokeman for helping black youths. Would you link their pages to us? I seem to remember a concerted effort to destroy the man with investigations and groping charges by leadership and the media for black status quo. If you missed this, then let me introduce you to google.

If you want to know which heroes are held up to blacks and other youths during Black History Month, one educational site had sixteen categories of prominent blacks of which ten were for entertainers and athletes. Don’t tell me that black kids don’t admire Michael Jordan more than they do George Washinton Carver.

Just for starters, let me know what you think about black English aka ebonics. Should schools be teaching this or helping students learn standard English to increase job opportunities? LINK: Oakland schools adopt ‘Black English’ policy Or, would you rather them not talk like a white people?

Just think how many kids are written off because political correctness is more important than their futures.

And, you can call me racist all that you want, because that’s all you’ve got left to throw–but, you’re dead wrong.