Comments on: THE PROPOSITIONS: PROP. 11 – Redistricting http://witnessla.com/elections-08/2008/admin/the-propositions-prop-11-redistricting/ street news, views and stories of justice and injustice Wed, 23 May 2012 08:04:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Celeste Fremon http://witnessla.com/elections-08/2008/admin/the-propositions-prop-11-redistricting/comment-page-1/#comment-65475 Celeste Fremon Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:58:29 +0000 http://witnessla.com/root/2008/admin/the-propositions-prop-11-redistricting/#comment-65475 Woody, I didn't say---one way or the other--how I stood on Prop 11. I'll give endorsments and recommendations on Monday. This is meant to be informative. Particularly on a few of the props, like this one, where there's a case to be made for both sides. (On a few, I will likely hector, like on Props 2 and 6 and 8.) Woody, I didn’t say—one way or the other–how I stood on Prop 11. I’ll give endorsments and recommendations on Monday. This is meant to be informative. Particularly on a few of the props, like this one, where there’s a case to be made for both sides.

(On a few, I will likely hector, like on Props 2 and 6 and 8.)

]]> By: Woody http://witnessla.com/elections-08/2008/admin/the-propositions-prop-11-redistricting/comment-page-1/#comment-65443 Woody Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:06:15 +0000 http://witnessla.com/root/2008/admin/the-propositions-prop-11-redistricting/#comment-65443 Marc Cooper is for Prop. 11. You're featuring a position against it. That leaves one really confused. Is there an option to copy Obama and just vote "present?" <b><a href="http://www.laweekly.com/2008-10-30/news/election-39-08-voting-guide-endorsements-from-a-free-thinker-no-on-8-yes-on-11-and-a-nod-to-mark-ridley-thomas/" rel="nofollow">Here's what Marc said:</a></b> <blockquote>Last, but not least, is the contested Prop. 11, a measure that would reshape the ways legislative districts are drawn in California. Now, be careful, as your mailbox is filling up with heated pleas from California liberals and Democrats demanding you oppose this measure. They also point out that it’s led by the Governator himself. But check out the fine print and you’ll see that on this one, Arnold is joined by the League of Women Voters, Common Cause, the ACLU and other serious reform groups. The politicians — of both parties — are going bonkers over this proposal because it would strip their power to draw the very districts from which they are elected; i.e., it would end the blatant gerrymandering that has rendered the entirety of California’s legislative districts noncompetitive. That means that the status quo effectively nullifies the need for any election for the state Assembly or Senate. The reform plan envisioned by Prop. 11, which would transfer redistricting power from the legislature to an independent and multipartisan panel, isn’t perfect by any means. But it beats the hell out of our current system and is a big step down the right road to reform. Yes on Prop. 11.</blockquote> Marc Cooper is for Prop. 11. You’re featuring a position against it. That leaves one really confused. Is there an option to copy Obama and just vote “present?”

Here’s what Marc said:

Last, but not least, is the contested Prop. 11, a measure that would reshape the ways legislative districts are drawn in California. Now, be careful, as your mailbox is filling up with heated pleas from California liberals and Democrats demanding you oppose this measure. They also point out that it’s led by the Governator himself. But check out the fine print and you’ll see that on this one, Arnold is joined by the League of Women Voters, Common Cause, the ACLU and other serious reform groups. The politicians — of both parties — are going bonkers over this proposal because it would strip their power to draw the very districts from which they are elected; i.e., it would end the blatant gerrymandering that has rendered the entirety of California’s legislative districts noncompetitive. That means that the status quo effectively nullifies the need for any election for the state Assembly or Senate. The reform plan envisioned by Prop. 11, which would transfer redistricting power from the legislature to an independent and multipartisan panel, isn’t perfect by any means. But it beats the hell out of our current system and is a big step down the right road to reform. Yes on Prop. 11.

]]> By: Woody http://witnessla.com/elections-08/2008/admin/the-propositions-prop-11-redistricting/comment-page-1/#comment-65429 Woody Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:01:22 +0000 http://witnessla.com/root/2008/admin/the-propositions-prop-11-redistricting/#comment-65429 I've seen redistricting plans opposed by Democrats that they support in other states where it helps them. I wonder if your smart student would argue this the same way if the names of the parties were reversed? Do you support gerrymandering? I’ve seen redistricting plans opposed by Democrats that they support in other states where it helps them. I wonder if your smart student would argue this the same way if the names of the parties were reversed?

Do you support gerrymandering?

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