This is a problem with liberals. They just can’t believe that some great social engineering scheme didn’t work. Bussing did work exactly as it could in response to human nature. And, in the process, it helped to kill off central cities, which made problems worse. Way to go, liberal judges.

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browne: Much more to overcome in regards to diversity.

We’ve had enough of diversity. It’s a code word for racial preferences. Plus, I don’t like being forced into associations with people of low values and bad ideas, just because they are different. Western civilization progressed because it took the best ideas from different groups and discarded those that were less successful.

I never went to public school. I went to parochial school, but I heard these various stories. In LA all of the kids who were bussed were in one class and all of the kids who were not were in another class.

Seems to completely defeat the purpose of bussing. You can just stay in your own school and do that.

Also from friends of mine who have children now, I used to live in Los Feliz and at the school all of the children from the area went to the magnet version of the school (even if they weren’t exactly in the district they just needed to have a one million dollar house and talk to so-so and more than often these people were white) while everyone else from somewhere else seemed to go to the regular school.

Now these obviously are just little personal anecdotes, but I think bussing could have worked if it had been done the way it was supposed to be done.

It seemed to be (and still seems to be) all of these little tricks in LA to get out of doing what was supposed to be done.

Now my fiance who is white grew up in Montgomery, Alambama and for some odd reason they actually did bus the white kids out to the black schools and he went to an integrated high school in a black neighborhood. Now maybe that was just one little blip in time. He was going to high school in the 80s, but it seems like to me even though he’s from the “south” he has way more tolerance for a wider variety of people than people who look like him, but are from the more so-called progressive areas.

I think the problem with LA is that there is way too much of a separation between classes. In most cities (before this economic downtown turn) it seemed like most people were around middle class or working class. The only thing people bussed to schools had to overcome was stereotypes about race, but in LA you have people who are literally from a different world living in the same city.

Much more to overcome in regards to diversity.

The same 4 liberal Supreme Court Justices who voted to bus children are the same FOOLS who believe that the second amendment, A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed., is only to protect the rights of individual states.

The 2007 June decision was based on our Constitution and protection or rights, not on laws that liberal judges make up to move forward their agenda.

(read the Asian students link posted by Lost Expectations)

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-lincoln16-2008jul16,0,3712530.story?

“…the important work of bringing together students of different racial, ethnic and economic backgrounds.”

And, why is this important? It seems that has caused more problems than any good that might have resulted. Also, don’t give me this “diversity” nonsense, which has become nothing but favoring people for their races rather than their accomplishments. Next, explain to me why black kids can’t learn unless they are sitting next to white kids. I guess the next move is to crank up mandatory cross-town bussing–another great liberal idea.

Oh, let’s look at the “scientific” study that helped push through the Brown decision.

In 1950 Kenneth Clark wrote a paper for the White House Mid-Century Conference on Children and Youth summarizing this research and related work that attracted the attention of Robert Carter of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund. Carter believed that Clark’s findings could be effectively used in court to show that segregation damaged the personality development of black children.

The Clarks also gave the children outline drawings of a boy and girl and asked them to color the figures the same color as themselves. Many of the children with dark complexions colored the figures with a white or yellow crayon. The Clarks concluded that “prejudice, discrimination, and segregation” caused black children to develop a sense of inferiority and self-hatred.

Give me a break! Liberal studies are jokes. They know the results that they want and go for that. However, let a study go the other way and they’ll kill the messenger, like William Shockley. When impartial results don’t fit their agendas, they’ll deny the “fairness” of it–like SAT scores.

Education lawyers took notice of this crack in the decision’s metaphorical door….

I love the ways that liberals look at laws, which is that laws mean only what they choose them to mean. Here you have a Supreme Court ruling, and the losers instantly dismiss it and say that the ruling doesn’t change anything. This is the same with the Washington, D.C. handgun ruling. Didn’t liberals learn as kids that no means no?

Maybe poor kids do poorly in school because they inherited the genes and get guidance from parents who are poor, and poor people stay there if they aren’t smart enough to break out of poverty.

You don’t need the L.A. Times Magazine to read the studies that you want. Just do like most liberals–make up your own!

If you look at different races by class, you see huge differences in all of them — from the wealthy Mexicans settling in gated enclaves outside San Diego to escape crime and threats of kidnapping, vs. the Laitno population of LAUSD; the black middle class of Baldwin Hills which shuns the local public schools, and Shaq and other wealthy blacks in Manhattan Beach; and whites who come from families where no one has graduated college or made it a priority vs. the kids of educated middle to wealthy whites. The educated parents of all races have more in common with each other than with the “underclass” of their own race — but since in LA one race with one socio-economic level is so predominant, you can’t extrapolate statistics to other cities with the more historical black-white dichotomies.

(If I’ve left some of this unrefined, sorry, thoughts jotted down late at night while they’re fresh on my mind…)