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		<title>By: gabi</title>
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		<dc:creator>gabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 04:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I worked with mr carbino 12 years ago--and he hasn&#039;t changed.  he was just as controlling and divisive then as he is now.  he was a liar, too!  someone checked up on his statement that he was a police officer--and nobody could find any record of him ever being a cop.  what amazes me is that this district keeps passing him on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked with mr carbino 12 years ago&#8211;and he hasn&#8217;t changed.  he was just as controlling and divisive then as he is now.  he was a liar, too!  someone checked up on his statement that he was a police officer&#8211;and nobody could find any record of him ever being a cop.  what amazes me is that this district keeps passing him on!</p>
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		<title>By: VInce Nineli</title>
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		<dc:creator>VInce Nineli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>POKEY said: 

&quot;It has become fashionable to offer AP courses at inner city high schools even though these classes are often taught by unqualified teachers to unqualified students who never take the AP tests or if they do take the tests fail them.&quot;

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&quot;I would be surprised if any of the Santee teachers have had their courses approved by the College Board. Unfortunately the best students at a school like Santee would be considered only average at an OC high school and typically unqualified for AP courses.

Maybe the principal knows something that we donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t. It would be good to get his side of the story&quot;

I teach at SANTEE and both of my courses were APPROVED by the College Board.  Unqualified, well ok, what are POKEY&#039;s qualifications? (in anything).  How many inner city students has he/she gotten to pass an AP test.  Last year, 2007, I had 3 pass with 3&#039;s and 7 get 2&#039;s and many more got 1&#039;s.  So yeah I&#039;m no Jaime Escalante but I&#039;m doing my best and it gives me great pleasure to know my students who passed their AP exams took the same test that kids at SAN MARINO HS or NEWPORT HARBOR HS, who have parent thats pay for tutors and have BMW&#039;s to drive to school!  So yes I know many people say why bother trying, but we either believe in equal opportunity or we don&#039;t.  I understand taxpayer frustration at how much is spent with so little return (kids who can&#039;t read or compute by the time of their HS graduation)and the Public Educational system has serious problems and needs reforming but there are kids here who have real talent and they  deserve a chance. They may need an extra boost to give them a shot at the American Dream. Does the principal know something we don&#039;t, come work for him and find out for yourself, he&#039;s a lemon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>POKEY said: </p>
<p>&#8220;It has become fashionable to offer AP courses at inner city high schools even though these classes are often taught by unqualified teachers to unqualified students who never take the AP tests or if they do take the tests fail them.&#8221;</p>
<p>AND</p>
<p>&#8220;I would be surprised if any of the Santee teachers have had their courses approved by the College Board. Unfortunately the best students at a school like Santee would be considered only average at an OC high school and typically unqualified for AP courses.</p>
<p>Maybe the principal knows something that we donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t. It would be good to get his side of the story&#8221;</p>
<p>I teach at SANTEE and both of my courses were APPROVED by the College Board.  Unqualified, well ok, what are POKEY&#8217;s qualifications? (in anything).  How many inner city students has he/she gotten to pass an AP test.  Last year, 2007, I had 3 pass with 3&#8217;s and 7 get 2&#8217;s and many more got 1&#8217;s.  So yeah I&#8217;m no Jaime Escalante but I&#8217;m doing my best and it gives me great pleasure to know my students who passed their AP exams took the same test that kids at SAN MARINO HS or NEWPORT HARBOR HS, who have parent thats pay for tutors and have BMW&#8217;s to drive to school!  So yes I know many people say why bother trying, but we either believe in equal opportunity or we don&#8217;t.  I understand taxpayer frustration at how much is spent with so little return (kids who can&#8217;t read or compute by the time of their HS graduation)and the Public Educational system has serious problems and needs reforming but there are kids here who have real talent and they  deserve a chance. They may need an extra boost to give them a shot at the American Dream. Does the principal know something we don&#8217;t, come work for him and find out for yourself, he&#8217;s a lemon!</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne Jacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joanne Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Low-performing schools got extra money under the Williams settlement to buy textbooks. Most schools did so, according to a ACLU report that just came out. 

Also, remember the principal didn&#039;t change AP History to regular History. He changed it to &quot;Cinema.&quot; That&#039;s not about quality. 

Any school, however awful, has some students who are motivated and capable. They deserve a chance to learn academic subjects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Low-performing schools got extra money under the Williams settlement to buy textbooks. Most schools did so, according to a ACLU report that just came out. </p>
<p>Also, remember the principal didn&#8217;t change AP History to regular History. He changed it to &#8220;Cinema.&#8221; That&#8217;s not about quality. </p>
<p>Any school, however awful, has some students who are motivated and capable. They deserve a chance to learn academic subjects.</p>
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		<title>By: Celeste Fremon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celeste Fremon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 06:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maggie,  Thanks for the heads up.   Hmmmm.  Curious. I know the Crenshaw parents group is very active. Wonder what this is about. Will check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maggie,  Thanks for the heads up.   Hmmmm.  Curious. I know the Crenshaw parents group is very active. Wonder what this is about. Will check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 05:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Celeste:  Posted tonight in Metroblogging L A, there will be a press conference tomorrow at Crenshaw High School to announce something important but no details given, exc. that A J Duffy, UTLA head, will be there.  This is one of the Mayor&#039;s special interest schools, selected for his TLC, and one of the lowest performers -- along with Santee, I take it.  Crenshaw only got a one-yr acceditation vs. the usual 3, very marginal.  You might want to check out what&#039;s up tomorrow.  Boy, the battle of the low-performers is ON!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Celeste:  Posted tonight in Metroblogging L A, there will be a press conference tomorrow at Crenshaw High School to announce something important but no details given, exc. that A J Duffy, UTLA head, will be there.  This is one of the Mayor&#8217;s special interest schools, selected for his TLC, and one of the lowest performers &#8212; along with Santee, I take it.  Crenshaw only got a one-yr acceditation vs. the usual 3, very marginal.  You might want to check out what&#8217;s up tomorrow.  Boy, the battle of the low-performers is ON!</p>
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		<title>By: richard locicero</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard locicero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poplock my father had the same difficulty by the way. His father saw no need for education so dad worked a few years in a foundry and then went off to Bowdoin. I think most immigrants felt that way. He was nine months old when he went thru Ellis Island.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poplock my father had the same difficulty by the way. His father saw no need for education so dad worked a few years in a foundry and then went off to Bowdoin. I think most immigrants felt that way. He was nine months old when he went thru Ellis Island.</p>
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		<title>By: poplock</title>
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		<dc:creator>poplock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I can write about anything related to me, the problem is that I cant be on this computer typing my life away. My wife wants to hide my laptop. 
While your investigating the Santee school thing, I&#039;m over here looking at a couple of supremist white guys on a hate crime. 
If I start to write, its like endless.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I can write about anything related to me, the problem is that I cant be on this computer typing my life away. My wife wants to hide my laptop.<br />
While your investigating the Santee school thing, I&#8217;m over here looking at a couple of supremist white guys on a hate crime.<br />
If I start to write, its like endless&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Celeste Fremon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celeste Fremon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poplock, by &quot;unresolved anger&quot; I wasn&#039;t talking about you the person, I was now busily imagining you-the-fictional-character. (Also, I was, in part, responding to your comment---something about not being able to write about certain things yet because you were still too angry. This is a condition that, trust me, I fully understand on a most personal basis regarding to one or two things in my own checkered past.)

About fictionalizing your good arrest stories, well, somebody&#039;s got to give Michael Connelly some competition.  And there are a lot of literary folk who believe the best way to get to the deepest truths is through the vehicle of good &quot;fiction&quot;---i.e. fact disguised as fiction.  (But I write nonfiction, so what do I know?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poplock, by &#8220;unresolved anger&#8221; I wasn&#8217;t talking about you the person, I was now busily imagining you-the-fictional-character. (Also, I was, in part, responding to your comment&#8212;something about not being able to write about certain things yet because you were still too angry. This is a condition that, trust me, I fully understand on a most personal basis regarding to one or two things in my own checkered past.)</p>
<p>About fictionalizing your good arrest stories, well, somebody&#8217;s got to give Michael Connelly some competition.  And there are a lot of literary folk who believe the best way to get to the deepest truths is through the vehicle of good &#8220;fiction&#8221;&#8212;i.e. fact disguised as fiction.  (But I write nonfiction, so what do I know?)</p>
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		<title>By: poplock</title>
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		<dc:creator>poplock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard brought up a good point. Since the death of Affirmative Action, I can argue excellent points on how it backfired on the conservative 187 supporters. But who cares, Asians will be all your bosses CEO in a couple of years. 

******
Ms Fremon
 Why do I want to fictionalize when I got good arrest stories?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard brought up a good point. Since the death of Affirmative Action, I can argue excellent points on how it backfired on the conservative 187 supporters. But who cares, Asians will be all your bosses CEO in a couple of years. </p>
<p>******<br />
Ms Fremon<br />
 Why do I want to fictionalize when I got good arrest stories?</p>
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		<title>By: poplock</title>
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		<dc:creator>poplock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, your the first to called it &quot;unresolved anger.&quot;
  
When I got my admissions paperwork from the the University, it said, &quot;special action&quot; on the top right hand corner. When I got my financial aid paperwork (loan agreements), it said &quot;specal action&quot; on the top right hand corner. When I got my housing paperwork and meal plan applications everything said &quot;special action&quot; on the top right on corners. Everywhere I went, people looked at me funny and stated, &quot;I&#039;ve never seen this before, this special action thing.&quot; 
When I ran out of money and my gas &amp; lights got cut off, I walked over to the EOP building seeking a counselor for extra financial assistance. They tried their best to help me out but were limited to a $1,500 emergency loan.  After reviewing my admission paperwork and loan information via computer, all the latino and black counselors huddled together and kept saying, &quot;wow&quot; - &quot;wow&quot; ..&quot;wow&quot; 
Finally, one of them looked over at me and said, &quot;you a real walking affirmative action and probably the last.&quot;

According to them, Affirmative Action was only used by the UC schools on special circumstances. Almost all minorities students are admitted on their own merits and under the regular admissions process. Seats are reserved yearly for certain number of minority groups that can qualify on the normal admission process and held until they are fulfilled or not. Again to emphasize, these seats were not connected in anyway to the Affirmative Action program. Today, those seats are still held for various minorities groups that qualify under the normal applicantion process. If they are not filled, they just get thrown back into the general pot.   
 Affirmative Action is only used on special circumstances and everyone knows you got in via Affirmative Action. Its stamped and written all over your freaking paperwork. So, to cut this short, the counselors stated that I was not taking a seat from a possible applicant but that the UC was actually creating an extra seat for me. According to the counselor, this &quot;action&quot; is tracked and monitored closely by the UC regents and in Sacramento. You just dont give out an Affimative Action spot like its a tootsie roll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, your the first to called it &#8220;unresolved anger.&#8221;</p>
<p>When I got my admissions paperwork from the the University, it said, &#8220;special action&#8221; on the top right hand corner. When I got my financial aid paperwork (loan agreements), it said &#8220;specal action&#8221; on the top right hand corner. When I got my housing paperwork and meal plan applications everything said &#8220;special action&#8221; on the top right on corners. Everywhere I went, people looked at me funny and stated, &#8220;I&#8217;ve never seen this before, this special action thing.&#8221;<br />
When I ran out of money and my gas &amp; lights got cut off, I walked over to the EOP building seeking a counselor for extra financial assistance. They tried their best to help me out but were limited to a $1,500 emergency loan.  After reviewing my admission paperwork and loan information via computer, all the latino and black counselors huddled together and kept saying, &#8220;wow&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;wow&#8221; ..&#8221;wow&#8221;<br />
Finally, one of them looked over at me and said, &#8220;you a real walking affirmative action and probably the last.&#8221;</p>
<p>According to them, Affirmative Action was only used by the UC schools on special circumstances. Almost all minorities students are admitted on their own merits and under the regular admissions process. Seats are reserved yearly for certain number of minority groups that can qualify on the normal admission process and held until they are fulfilled or not. Again to emphasize, these seats were not connected in anyway to the Affirmative Action program. Today, those seats are still held for various minorities groups that qualify under the normal applicantion process. If they are not filled, they just get thrown back into the general pot.<br />
 Affirmative Action is only used on special circumstances and everyone knows you got in via Affirmative Action. Its stamped and written all over your freaking paperwork. So, to cut this short, the counselors stated that I was not taking a seat from a possible applicant but that the UC was actually creating an extra seat for me. According to the counselor, this &#8220;action&#8221; is tracked and monitored closely by the UC regents and in Sacramento. You just dont give out an Affimative Action spot like its a tootsie roll.</p>
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