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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 02:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How they get around it: at my daughter&#039;s elementary school the  kids got a 45-minute once-a-week &quot;psychomotor&quot; session led by college-age kids. While this is happening, teachers are at grade-level meetings to discuss curriculum issues. When questioned as to why students are not getting daily 20-minute sessions of p.e. with their teachers, administrators said the psychomotor sessions met the state requirements if they were calculated on a weekly basis, even though that would mean the kids needed to get 100 minutes. So, basically, the parents and state law ignored. To boot,  the PTA raised the money to pay the annual $11,000 for the psychomotor program from the YMCA. And, the &quot;coaches&quot; fitness as teachers of young children was uneven. One coach told a kindergartner who had just been kicked by a boy,&quot;He just wants to kick it wit&#039; you, girl!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How they get around it: at my daughter&#8217;s elementary school the  kids got a 45-minute once-a-week &#8220;psychomotor&#8221; session led by college-age kids. While this is happening, teachers are at grade-level meetings to discuss curriculum issues. When questioned as to why students are not getting daily 20-minute sessions of p.e. with their teachers, administrators said the psychomotor sessions met the state requirements if they were calculated on a weekly basis, even though that would mean the kids needed to get 100 minutes. So, basically, the parents and state law ignored. To boot,  the PTA raised the money to pay the annual $11,000 for the psychomotor program from the YMCA. And, the &#8220;coaches&#8221; fitness as teachers of young children was uneven. One coach told a kindergartner who had just been kicked by a boy,&#8221;He just wants to kick it wit&#8217; you, girl!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/education/2007/admin/couch-potato-kids-las-lawbreaking-school-district/comment-page-1/#comment-5844</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today is cross-dressing day on Celeste&#039;s site...if you like that sort of thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today is cross-dressing day on Celeste&#8217;s site&#8230;if you like that sort of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: PoPlOckEr UnO</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/education/2007/admin/couch-potato-kids-las-lawbreaking-school-district/comment-page-1/#comment-5819</link>
		<dc:creator>PoPlOckEr UnO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A school district dedicated to their students better education....what a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A school district dedicated to their students better education&#8230;.what a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: PoPlOckEr UnO</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/education/2007/admin/couch-potato-kids-las-lawbreaking-school-district/comment-page-1/#comment-5818</link>
		<dc:creator>PoPlOckEr UnO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember passing that exam and its not an easy exam to pass. The sit-ups are probably the hardest part of that exam. Its all on based on how many a student can do within a couple of minutes. Most PE classes dont force kids to do sit-ups, unless your on the Baseball, Football, or Basketball team...ect. 
Now the issue on South Gate High - these numbers are prior or after the LAUSD split the city in half.  Half of the city&#039;s students are now attending the new constructed South East High School. I heard that all the good athletes left South gate and are now attending South East.
I also heard the new SOuth East High School kicked the crap out of the original SG High School on Firestone in this year&#039;s first Azalea bowl football game. The South East girls Soccer girls went to the playoffs as well. 
You know, out of the entire area of LAUSD minority schools in SouthEast, I remember SOuth Gate as having a really good sport program. They weren&#039;t in the top rankings but the Mexican/Americans kids had a lot of heart and active in sports. In 1987, their football team lost to the Valley&#039;s powerhouse, Reseda High, in the 3A division playoffs on a field goal with seconds left.  In 1988, they upsetted Westchester High, taking the LAUSD 3A championship. South Gate had not won a champingship game since 1955 when the school was almost entirely white.
I dont see how LAUSD can Split the population of a city in half then cry foul play with a fitness report. 
Maybe someone should address how LAUSD decided to split the City in the 1980s and sent hundreds of kids to Jordan High school. Jordan High was scheduled to be closed down for non-attendance of students. 
How did LAUSD solve the problem? - they split the city of South Gate to get Mexican/AMericans kids to attend a school across the alameda tracks. 
I like to Thank LAUSD for taking SOuth Gate Students to a school where the majority of the south gate students dropped out, joined gangs, and ended up dead. For what? Just to keep an underscoring criminal ridden school open.  Thanks again LAUSD - your the greatest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember passing that exam and its not an easy exam to pass. The sit-ups are probably the hardest part of that exam. Its all on based on how many a student can do within a couple of minutes. Most PE classes dont force kids to do sit-ups, unless your on the Baseball, Football, or Basketball team&#8230;ect.<br />
Now the issue on South Gate High &#8211; these numbers are prior or after the LAUSD split the city in half.  Half of the city&#8217;s students are now attending the new constructed South East High School. I heard that all the good athletes left South gate and are now attending South East.<br />
I also heard the new SOuth East High School kicked the crap out of the original SG High School on Firestone in this year&#8217;s first Azalea bowl football game. The South East girls Soccer girls went to the playoffs as well.<br />
You know, out of the entire area of LAUSD minority schools in SouthEast, I remember SOuth Gate as having a really good sport program. They weren&#8217;t in the top rankings but the Mexican/Americans kids had a lot of heart and active in sports. In 1987, their football team lost to the Valley&#8217;s powerhouse, Reseda High, in the 3A division playoffs on a field goal with seconds left.  In 1988, they upsetted Westchester High, taking the LAUSD 3A championship. South Gate had not won a champingship game since 1955 when the school was almost entirely white.<br />
I dont see how LAUSD can Split the population of a city in half then cry foul play with a fitness report.<br />
Maybe someone should address how LAUSD decided to split the City in the 1980s and sent hundreds of kids to Jordan High school. Jordan High was scheduled to be closed down for non-attendance of students.<br />
How did LAUSD solve the problem? &#8211; they split the city of South Gate to get Mexican/AMericans kids to attend a school across the alameda tracks.<br />
I like to Thank LAUSD for taking SOuth Gate Students to a school where the majority of the south gate students dropped out, joined gangs, and ended up dead. For what? Just to keep an underscoring criminal ridden school open.  Thanks again LAUSD &#8211; your the greatest.</p>
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		<title>By: L.A. Resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>L.A. Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iâ€™m not sure where the Los Angeles schools rank, but I do know LAUSD has some really lousy schools. I have seen and heard too many stories about gangs, violence and drugs in schools. Even parents of the kids from the poorest of countries are surprised about how bad the Los Angeles schools are. I know people from Central America who have sent their kids back home to receive a better education.
 
If there was ever an organization that needed a weapon of â€œmass destructionâ€ dropped on itsâ€™ head, itâ€™s the LAUSD. The LAUSD needs to be immediately destroyed and every area needs to establish their own school district, so they can more effectively manage their schools. The LAUSD has way too many schools and students to be effectively or efficiently managed. I hold NO hope of the existing LAUSD to make any real improvements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iâ€™m not sure where the Los Angeles schools rank, but I do know LAUSD has some really lousy schools. I have seen and heard too many stories about gangs, violence and drugs in schools. Even parents of the kids from the poorest of countries are surprised about how bad the Los Angeles schools are. I know people from Central America who have sent their kids back home to receive a better education.</p>
<p>If there was ever an organization that needed a weapon of â€œmass destructionâ€ dropped on itsâ€™ head, itâ€™s the LAUSD. The LAUSD needs to be immediately destroyed and every area needs to establish their own school district, so they can more effectively manage their schools. The LAUSD has way too many schools and students to be effectively or efficiently managed. I hold NO hope of the existing LAUSD to make any real improvements.</p>
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		<title>By: L.A. Resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>L.A. Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will temporarily call my self an &quot;expert&quot; on weight and fitness. Since a very young age I was in wresting, which involved lots of road work and weight training. And I still workout regularly. 

There is an advantage to being a â€œdefeated old-guard leftâ€, back in my Junior High days all the boys were forced to run a 2-1/2 mile course around the school. Our P.E. Teacher (and wrestling coach) would run along side and give anybody lagging behind, a swift kick in the ass. We also did calisthenics, good ole fashion Jumping Jacks, push-ups and etc. The only â€œequipmentâ€ required are tennis shoes and gym shorts. And any kid who did not cooperate was taken to the P.E. teacherâ€™s office and hit across the ass with a â€œswatâ€ paddle (a piece of wood with holes drilled into it).
   
And us â€œdefeated old-guard leftâ€ did not have video games, computers, large screen T.V. for entertainment, so we had to go outside and play. You played baseball in an empty lot, chased your dog around, or rode your bicycle. 

Everybody knows about the need to exercise and burn the calories you consumed. But I believe the food we eat today must contain too many growth hormones. If you look at the kids of small/short immigrants, for example the kids of Japanese, Chinese and Central Americas, you will notice how their kids are usually much bigger than their parents. So it might also be the food we consume not just the lack of exercise. When you are in France or Japan you quickly notice that they have less over-weight people than we do (is it their food?). And the French are known to enjoy a good long meal. I also notice that people in the mid-west who consume more dairy products, seem to be fatter (sorry to the skinny folks in the mid-west). 

While a government canâ€™t force a fat kid to exercise it can regulate what chemicals can be used to stimulate growth in the food we eat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will temporarily call my self an &#8220;expert&#8221; on weight and fitness. Since a very young age I was in wresting, which involved lots of road work and weight training. And I still workout regularly. </p>
<p>There is an advantage to being a â€œdefeated old-guard leftâ€, back in my Junior High days all the boys were forced to run a 2-1/2 mile course around the school. Our P.E. Teacher (and wrestling coach) would run along side and give anybody lagging behind, a swift kick in the ass. We also did calisthenics, good ole fashion Jumping Jacks, push-ups and etc. The only â€œequipmentâ€ required are tennis shoes and gym shorts. And any kid who did not cooperate was taken to the P.E. teacherâ€™s office and hit across the ass with a â€œswatâ€ paddle (a piece of wood with holes drilled into it).</p>
<p>And us â€œdefeated old-guard leftâ€ did not have video games, computers, large screen T.V. for entertainment, so we had to go outside and play. You played baseball in an empty lot, chased your dog around, or rode your bicycle. </p>
<p>Everybody knows about the need to exercise and burn the calories you consumed. But I believe the food we eat today must contain too many growth hormones. If you look at the kids of small/short immigrants, for example the kids of Japanese, Chinese and Central Americas, you will notice how their kids are usually much bigger than their parents. So it might also be the food we consume not just the lack of exercise. When you are in France or Japan you quickly notice that they have less over-weight people than we do (is it their food?). And the French are known to enjoy a good long meal. I also notice that people in the mid-west who consume more dairy products, seem to be fatter (sorry to the skinny folks in the mid-west). </p>
<p>While a government canâ€™t force a fat kid to exercise it can regulate what chemicals can be used to stimulate growth in the food we eat.</p>
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		<title>By: WBTD Comments on WCGB &#171; West Coast Grrlie Blather</title>
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		<dc:creator>WBTD Comments on WCGB &#171; West Coast Grrlie Blather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Also via LA Observed: How badly does the school district violate the state requirement for daily physical education for most kids? At South Gate High School, 1,600 students took the state Fitness test and not one passed. Forty LAUSD schools could not report a single physically fit student. WitnessLA.com [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Also via LA Observed: How badly does the school district violate the state requirement for daily physical education for most kids? At South Gate High School, 1,600 students took the state Fitness test and not one passed. Forty LAUSD schools could not report a single physically fit student. WitnessLA.com [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who said that cross-dressing &lt;a href=&quot;http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;q=Rudy+in+Drag&amp;gbv=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;was a liberal phenomenon&lt;/a&gt;? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who said that cross-dressing <a href="http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&amp;q=Rudy+in+Drag&amp;gbv=2" rel="nofollow">was a liberal phenomenon</a>? <img src='http://witnessla.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Two ground level issues in addition to the feeling compelled to teach to test: lack of equipment &amp; a physical education paradigm that is biased toward team sports- which rarely translate into lifelong activities when children are out of school.&lt;/strong&gt;

Right! Exactly! Sums it up in a nutshell. In addition, at certain ages/with psychological make-ups, team sports are resisted - competition is either too threatening, or too intense.  

*Equipment for individual sports is expensive by definition - every kid has to be outfitted,
*if all kids are to participate for a &#039;reasonable&#039; amount of time, there need to be enough &#039;stations&#039; - meaning more dedicated space,
*for some types of activities, safety (reducing liability) requires more than one teacher to be present
*and, individual skill development requires a certain amount of one-on-one instruction; an efficiency problem.

In the end you have to ask, What&#039;s the goal?  Weight management? Cardiovascular fitness? Skill acquisition? Get the kids out of the classroom teacher&#039;s hair?  These are not, and should not necessarily be, mutually exclusive.  However, when you&#039;re faced with 40 kids, 40 minutes, limited space, a limited equipment budget, etc. you might be better off targeting a single achievable goal, than an array of related goals.

And, much past the elementary grades, does the &lt;i&gt;native talent&lt;/i&gt; of the student matter?  You wouldn&#039;t place someone with inadequate preparation in math in an AP calculus class.  Likewise, I wouldn&#039;t be inclined to ask someone who has really poor hand-eye coordination to play baseball/softball just because it&#039;s an activity schools are able to provide relatively easily.

Anymore, I tend to think schools would be better off targeting cardiovascular fitness and outfit a space with a mix of elliptical trainers, treadmills, and stationary bikes.  Kids can rotate every 10 minutes.  Bo-ring!  But, likely more effective than what many schools have now.  Beyond that, intramurals, and competitive teams for those invested, or *have the money* to play.  At least it would give a kid a certain baseline level of raw physical conditioning on which a kid could build.  Beats an empty space, which many PE programs could only charitably be called.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Two ground level issues in addition to the feeling compelled to teach to test: lack of equipment &amp; a physical education paradigm that is biased toward team sports- which rarely translate into lifelong activities when children are out of school.</strong></p>
<p>Right! Exactly! Sums it up in a nutshell. In addition, at certain ages/with psychological make-ups, team sports are resisted &#8211; competition is either too threatening, or too intense.  </p>
<p>*Equipment for individual sports is expensive by definition &#8211; every kid has to be outfitted,<br />
*if all kids are to participate for a &#8216;reasonable&#8217; amount of time, there need to be enough &#8217;stations&#8217; &#8211; meaning more dedicated space,<br />
*for some types of activities, safety (reducing liability) requires more than one teacher to be present<br />
*and, individual skill development requires a certain amount of one-on-one instruction; an efficiency problem.</p>
<p>In the end you have to ask, What&#8217;s the goal?  Weight management? Cardiovascular fitness? Skill acquisition? Get the kids out of the classroom teacher&#8217;s hair?  These are not, and should not necessarily be, mutually exclusive.  However, when you&#8217;re faced with 40 kids, 40 minutes, limited space, a limited equipment budget, etc. you might be better off targeting a single achievable goal, than an array of related goals.</p>
<p>And, much past the elementary grades, does the <i>native talent</i> of the student matter?  You wouldn&#8217;t place someone with inadequate preparation in math in an AP calculus class.  Likewise, I wouldn&#8217;t be inclined to ask someone who has really poor hand-eye coordination to play baseball/softball just because it&#8217;s an activity schools are able to provide relatively easily.</p>
<p>Anymore, I tend to think schools would be better off targeting cardiovascular fitness and outfit a space with a mix of elliptical trainers, treadmills, and stationary bikes.  Kids can rotate every 10 minutes.  Bo-ring!  But, likely more effective than what many schools have now.  Beyond that, intramurals, and competitive teams for those invested, or *have the money* to play.  At least it would give a kid a certain baseline level of raw physical conditioning on which a kid could build.  Beats an empty space, which many PE programs could only charitably be called.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can schools possibly make room for phys ed or scholastic courses when they spend time for more important things like this? 

&lt;blockquote&gt;LINK: &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58914&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt; 

A public school&#039;s &quot;gender-bender&quot; cross-dressing event, where boys were supposed to dress as girls and girls as boys, has prompted at least dozens, perhaps hundreds, of students to flee the tax-supported institutions in Iowa.

&quot;The mother of a seventh-grade student â€¦ was alarmed when she heard that on the last day of the school&#039;s &#039;Spirit Week,&#039; students were being encouraged to dress like the opposite sex. Perhaps even more disturbingly, parents were given virtually no advance notice from the school and found out about the event after flyers were posted throughout the campus,&quot; PJI reported. 

The principal, Adam Clark, had said he wanted to encourage students to be &quot;free thinkers,&quot; but the &quot;overall message wasn&#039;t coming across clear.&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt; 

See what liberals have done to our schools?  We certainly don&#039;t need any more imput or suggestions from them.  

Let&#039;s worry about healthy minds before we worry about healthy bodies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can schools possibly make room for phys ed or scholastic courses when they spend time for more important things like this? </p>
<blockquote><p>LINK: <b><a href="http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58914" rel="nofollow">Cross-dressing day sparks school exodus</a></b> </p>
<p>A public school&#8217;s &#8220;gender-bender&#8221; cross-dressing event, where boys were supposed to dress as girls and girls as boys, has prompted at least dozens, perhaps hundreds, of students to flee the tax-supported institutions in Iowa.</p>
<p>&#8220;The mother of a seventh-grade student â€¦ was alarmed when she heard that on the last day of the school&#8217;s &#8216;Spirit Week,&#8217; students were being encouraged to dress like the opposite sex. Perhaps even more disturbingly, parents were given virtually no advance notice from the school and found out about the event after flyers were posted throughout the campus,&#8221; PJI reported. </p>
<p>The principal, Adam Clark, had said he wanted to encourage students to be &#8220;free thinkers,&#8221; but the &#8220;overall message wasn&#8217;t coming across clear.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>See what liberals have done to our schools?  We certainly don&#8217;t need any more imput or suggestions from them.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s worry about healthy minds before we worry about healthy bodies.</p>
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