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		<title>By: Sure Fire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sure Fire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where are all the big mout libs? Casey should be chased out of the service for his comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where are all the big mout libs? Casey should be chased out of the service for his comments.</p>
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		<title>By: John Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep... the evidence is stacking up.

It looks like this guy was probably a classic suicide terrorist - psychologically he fits the profile, and he has been growing closer and closer to the ideology of the movement and the Islam lifestyle.

Sorry, libs, but guess what - and this shouldn&#039;t be a surprise - the knee jerk reaction was correct - this was jihadism.

But don&#039;t worry, Obama won&#039;t learn anything from this, so other budding Jihadists will still be protected by many layers of political correctness. The military is very efficient at that sort of thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep&#8230; the evidence is stacking up.</p>
<p>It looks like this guy was probably a classic suicide terrorist &#8211; psychologically he fits the profile, and he has been growing closer and closer to the ideology of the movement and the Islam lifestyle.</p>
<p>Sorry, libs, but guess what &#8211; and this shouldn&#8217;t be a surprise &#8211; the knee jerk reaction was correct &#8211; this was jihadism.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t worry, Obama won&#8217;t learn anything from this, so other budding Jihadists will still be protected by many layers of political correctness. The military is very efficient at that sort of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Sure Fire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sure Fire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like political correctness was more important than getting a terrorist sympathizer, who turned into a terrorist, out of the military.

Thanks liberals, you fucking assholes are behind the pc movement and look what it got you, a bunch of dead American soldiers.



The Blotter from Brian Ross 
Officials: U.S. Army Told of Hasan&#039;s Contacts with al Qaeda
Army Major in Fort Hood Massacre Used &#039;Electronic Means&#039; to Connect with Terrorists
By RICHARD ESPOSITO, MATTHEW COLE and BRIAN ROSS
Nov. 9, 2009 
 
U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News. 
 
According to the officials, the Army was informed of Hasan&#039;s contact, but it is unclear what, if anything, the Army did in response. 

Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-MI), the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, said that he requested the CIA and other intelligence agencies brief the committee on what was known, if anything, about Hasan by the U.S. intelligence community, only to be refused. 

In response, Hoekstra issued a document preservation request to four intelligence agencies. The letter, dated November 7th, was sent to directors Dennis Blair (DNI), Robert Mueller (FBI), Lt. Gen Keith Alexander (NSA) and Leon Panetta (CIA). 

Hoekstra said he is &quot;absolutely furious&quot; that the house intel committee has been refused an intelligence briefing by the DNI or CIA on Hasan&#039;s attempt to reach out to al Qaeda, as first reported by ABC News. 
&quot;This is a law enforcement investigation, in which other agenciesâ€”not the CIAâ€”have the lead,&quot; CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano said in a response to ABC News. &quot; Any suggestion that the CIA refused to brief Congress is incorrect.&quot; 
Related
 
Investigators want to know if Hasan maintained contact with a radical mosque leader from Virginia, Anwar al Awlaki, who now lives in Yemen and runs a web site that promotes jihad around the world against the U.S. 

In a blog posting early Monday titled &quot;Nidal Hassan Did the Right Thing,&quot; Awlaki calls Hasan a &quot;hero&quot; and a &quot;man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people.&quot; 
According to his site, Awlaki served as an imam in Denver, San Diego and Falls Church, Virginia. 
The Associated Press reported Sunday that Major Hasan attended the Falls Church mosque when Awlaki was there. 
 
The Telegraph of London reported that Awlaki had made contact with two of the 9/11 hijackers when he was in San Diego. He denied any knowledge of the hijacking plot and was never charged with any crime. After an intensive investigation by the FBI , Awlaki moved to Yemen. 
People who knew or worked with Hasan say he seemed to have gradually become more radical in his disapproval of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. 

On Sunday, Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) called for an investigation into whether the Army missed signs as to whether Hasan was an Islamic extremist. 
&quot;If Hasan was showing signs, saying to people that he had become an Islamist extremist, the U.S. Army has to have a zero tolerance,&quot; Lieberman told Fox News Sunday. 

A fellow Army doctor who studied with Hasan, Val Finell, told ABC News, &quot;He would frequently say he was a Muslim first and an American second. And that came out in just about everything he did at the University.&quot; 
Finell said he and other Army doctors complained to superiors about Hasan&#039;s statements. 
&quot;And we questioned how somebody could take an oath of officeâ€¦be an officer in the military and swear allegiance to the constitution and to defend America against all enemies, foreign and domestic and have that type of conflict,&quot; Finell told ABC News.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like political correctness was more important than getting a terrorist sympathizer, who turned into a terrorist, out of the military.</p>
<p>Thanks liberals, you fucking assholes are behind the pc movement and look what it got you, a bunch of dead American soldiers.</p>
<p>The Blotter from Brian Ross<br />
Officials: U.S. Army Told of Hasan&#8217;s Contacts with al Qaeda<br />
Army Major in Fort Hood Massacre Used &#8216;Electronic Means&#8217; to Connect with Terrorists<br />
By RICHARD ESPOSITO, MATTHEW COLE and BRIAN ROSS<br />
Nov. 9, 2009 </p>
<p>U.S. intelligence agencies were aware months ago that Army Major Nidal Malik Hasan was attempting to make contact with people associated with al Qaeda, two American officials briefed on classified material in the case told ABC News. </p>
<p>According to the officials, the Army was informed of Hasan&#8217;s contact, but it is unclear what, if anything, the Army did in response. </p>
<p>Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-MI), the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, said that he requested the CIA and other intelligence agencies brief the committee on what was known, if anything, about Hasan by the U.S. intelligence community, only to be refused. </p>
<p>In response, Hoekstra issued a document preservation request to four intelligence agencies. The letter, dated November 7th, was sent to directors Dennis Blair (DNI), Robert Mueller (FBI), Lt. Gen Keith Alexander (NSA) and Leon Panetta (CIA). </p>
<p>Hoekstra said he is &#8220;absolutely furious&#8221; that the house intel committee has been refused an intelligence briefing by the DNI or CIA on Hasan&#8217;s attempt to reach out to al Qaeda, as first reported by ABC News.<br />
&#8220;This is a law enforcement investigation, in which other agenciesâ€”not the CIAâ€”have the lead,&#8221; CIA spokesman Paul Gimigliano said in a response to ABC News. &#8221; Any suggestion that the CIA refused to brief Congress is incorrect.&#8221;<br />
Related</p>
<p>Investigators want to know if Hasan maintained contact with a radical mosque leader from Virginia, Anwar al Awlaki, who now lives in Yemen and runs a web site that promotes jihad around the world against the U.S. </p>
<p>In a blog posting early Monday titled &#8220;Nidal Hassan Did the Right Thing,&#8221; Awlaki calls Hasan a &#8220;hero&#8221; and a &#8220;man of conscience who could not bear living the contradiction of being a Muslim and serving in an army that is fighting against his own people.&#8221;<br />
According to his site, Awlaki served as an imam in Denver, San Diego and Falls Church, Virginia.<br />
The Associated Press reported Sunday that Major Hasan attended the Falls Church mosque when Awlaki was there. </p>
<p>The Telegraph of London reported that Awlaki had made contact with two of the 9/11 hijackers when he was in San Diego. He denied any knowledge of the hijacking plot and was never charged with any crime. After an intensive investigation by the FBI , Awlaki moved to Yemen.<br />
People who knew or worked with Hasan say he seemed to have gradually become more radical in his disapproval of the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. </p>
<p>On Sunday, Sen. Joseph Lieberman (D-CT) called for an investigation into whether the Army missed signs as to whether Hasan was an Islamic extremist.<br />
&#8220;If Hasan was showing signs, saying to people that he had become an Islamist extremist, the U.S. Army has to have a zero tolerance,&#8221; Lieberman told Fox News Sunday. </p>
<p>A fellow Army doctor who studied with Hasan, Val Finell, told ABC News, &#8220;He would frequently say he was a Muslim first and an American second. And that came out in just about everything he did at the University.&#8221;<br />
Finell said he and other Army doctors complained to superiors about Hasan&#8217;s statements.<br />
&#8220;And we questioned how somebody could take an oath of officeâ€¦be an officer in the military and swear allegiance to the constitution and to defend America against all enemies, foreign and domestic and have that type of conflict,&#8221; Finell told ABC News.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, maybe you need to read this.

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2009/11/what-does-the-ft-hood-shooter.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WHAT DOES THE FT. HOOD SHOOTER HAVE TO DO WITH 9/11?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Nidal Malik Hasan worshipped at a mosque that was led by radical imam who turned out to be a â€œspiritual advisorâ€ to three hijackers of 9/11. According to the report, Hasan attended a mosque in Great Falls, Virginia in 2001 at the same time as two of the 9/11 terrorists. The imam is a man named Anwar al-Awlaki. He is known for, among other things, supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organizations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You guys are more concerned about backlash against Islamic terrorists than you are in American lives. Maybe you need to wake up and listen to conservatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, maybe you need to read this.</p>
<p><b><a href="http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2009/11/what-does-the-ft-hood-shooter.html" rel="nofollow">WHAT DOES THE FT. HOOD SHOOTER HAVE TO DO WITH 9/11?</a></b></p>
<blockquote><p>Nidal Malik Hasan worshipped at a mosque that was led by radical imam who turned out to be a â€œspiritual advisorâ€ to three hijackers of 9/11. According to the report, Hasan attended a mosque in Great Falls, Virginia in 2001 at the same time as two of the 9/11 terrorists. The imam is a man named Anwar al-Awlaki. He is known for, among other things, supporting attacks on British troops and backing terrorist organizations.</p></blockquote>
<p>You guys are more concerned about backlash against Islamic terrorists than you are in American lives. Maybe you need to wake up and listen to conservatives.</p>
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		<title>By: John Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 03:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see... since 2001 when the jihadist stuff really got notice in the US, there was ONE anti-abortion murder. Yep, proves your point, reg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see&#8230; since 2001 when the jihadist stuff really got notice in the US, there was ONE anti-abortion murder. Yep, proves your point, reg</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also

http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/new-report-find-secret-service-overwhelmed-by-increased-threats.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also</p>
<p><a href="http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/new-report-find-secret-service-overwhelmed-by-increased-threats.php" rel="nofollow">http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/new-report-find-secret-service-overwhelmed-by-increased-threats.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/criminal-justice/2009/admin/12-dead-at-fort-hood-31-wounded/comment-page-2/#comment-176278</link>
		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that link is missing a colon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that link is missing a colon</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence</a></p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hereâ€™s the list of anti-abortion violence in the US alone â€“ which doesnâ€™t include a whole range of other violent acts, including McVeigh and various Christian identity crazies who are clearly armed and dangerous. Also, the last time I looked, pro-health reform demonstrators werenâ€™t threatening to come back next time with guns. Lots of the Tea-baggers are reaching that level of hysteriaâ€¦which you are free to embrace.

http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence


As for &quot;the writings of the religion&quot;, that&#039;s a problem with Christianity as well when it&#039;s interpreted by fundamentalist dimwits isolated in cultural backwaters who are being fired up by demogogues into projecting their own insecurities on some external representative of &quot;evil.&quot;   The problem isn&#039;t with the religion - or the Iranian-Americans in Los Angeles would bear watching as potential &quot;jihadists&quot;, which I don&#039;t think is a serious security issue in Southern California - it&#039;s with retrograde cultures that reinforces the worst and the weakest in people. Add  self-interested, mendacious demagogues - be it FOX News or Wahabbist mosques - and it&#039;s a dangerious brew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hereâ€™s the list of anti-abortion violence in the US alone â€“ which doesnâ€™t include a whole range of other violent acts, including McVeigh and various Christian identity crazies who are clearly armed and dangerous. Also, the last time I looked, pro-health reform demonstrators werenâ€™t threatening to come back next time with guns. Lots of the Tea-baggers are reaching that level of hysteriaâ€¦which you are free to embrace.</p>
<p>http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence</p>
<p>As for &#8220;the writings of the religion&#8221;, that&#8217;s a problem with Christianity as well when it&#8217;s interpreted by fundamentalist dimwits isolated in cultural backwaters who are being fired up by demogogues into projecting their own insecurities on some external representative of &#8220;evil.&#8221;   The problem isn&#8217;t with the religion &#8211; or the Iranian-Americans in Los Angeles would bear watching as potential &#8220;jihadists&#8221;, which I don&#8217;t think is a serious security issue in Southern California &#8211; it&#8217;s with retrograde cultures that reinforces the worst and the weakest in people. Add  self-interested, mendacious demagogues &#8211; be it FOX News or Wahabbist mosques &#8211; and it&#8217;s a dangerious brew.</p>
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		<title>By: John Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;There are far more instances of Christian fundamentalists and Christian â€œidentityâ€ types going off the deep end and perpetrating violence here than there are of American Muslims&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In religious related killings, in the same time period? &#039;fraid not. In fact, there are very few.  There have been a small number of abortion-related killings, spread out over a couple of decades, and one of those killers (Rudolph) also engaged in non-abortion terrorism (the Olympics bombing). Beyond that? Care to give a list?

Jihadism is taught in many US mosques (especially since the Wahabbists took them over), and hence they provide fuel for the unstable and the angry. Crusaderism (or whatever) is 
not taught in any but the most whacko Idaho &quot;Christian&quot; sects - hence much less likelihood of religious related violence.

Of course, most native-born Muslims in the US are well assimilated. In fact, they assimilate much better here than in Europe. It is the writings of the religion, and the imported jihadism, that is the danger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There are far more instances of Christian fundamentalists and Christian â€œidentityâ€ types going off the deep end and perpetrating violence here than there are of American Muslims</p></blockquote>
<p>In religious related killings, in the same time period? &#8216;fraid not. In fact, there are very few.  There have been a small number of abortion-related killings, spread out over a couple of decades, and one of those killers (Rudolph) also engaged in non-abortion terrorism (the Olympics bombing). Beyond that? Care to give a list?</p>
<p>Jihadism is taught in many US mosques (especially since the Wahabbists took them over), and hence they provide fuel for the unstable and the angry. Crusaderism (or whatever) is<br />
not taught in any but the most whacko Idaho &#8220;Christian&#8221; sects &#8211; hence much less likelihood of religious related violence.</p>
<p>Of course, most native-born Muslims in the US are well assimilated. In fact, they assimilate much better here than in Europe. It is the writings of the religion, and the imported jihadism, that is the danger.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are far more instances of Christian fundamentalists and Christian &quot;identity&quot; types going off the deep end and perpetrating violence here than there are of American Muslims. Granted there are far more crank Christians than crank Muslims in the US, but frankly, the notions that  American Muslims are more likely to turn up as perpetrators in cases of deranged, religiously-extremist ultra-right killers flies in the face of the empirical evidence. (And extreme Islamists happen to be far-right, not far-left by any ideological measure that isn&#039;t simply pulled out of one&#039;s ass for political purposes - ultra-natrionalist, hyper-fundamentalsist, anti-modernist, misogynist, anti-secular, etc. etc.)    I&#039;m not even sure that there have been more cases of Muslims raised in the US going off the deep end than of  native Christians on a per capita basis.  This whole scare among the Woodys about Muslim Americans is pretty hyped up.  As a group, they&#039;re well assimilated.  The issue of people like the 9/11 terrorists coming here, or of suicide bombers in the Middle East is another issue entirely and has little or nothing to do with American-born Muslims, particularly those who weren&#039;t converts in prison or non-Arab weirdos who embraced Islam to &quot;find themselves.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are far more instances of Christian fundamentalists and Christian &#8220;identity&#8221; types going off the deep end and perpetrating violence here than there are of American Muslims. Granted there are far more crank Christians than crank Muslims in the US, but frankly, the notions that  American Muslims are more likely to turn up as perpetrators in cases of deranged, religiously-extremist ultra-right killers flies in the face of the empirical evidence. (And extreme Islamists happen to be far-right, not far-left by any ideological measure that isn&#8217;t simply pulled out of one&#8217;s ass for political purposes &#8211; ultra-natrionalist, hyper-fundamentalsist, anti-modernist, misogynist, anti-secular, etc. etc.)    I&#8217;m not even sure that there have been more cases of Muslims raised in the US going off the deep end than of  native Christians on a per capita basis.  This whole scare among the Woodys about Muslim Americans is pretty hyped up.  As a group, they&#8217;re well assimilated.  The issue of people like the 9/11 terrorists coming here, or of suicide bombers in the Middle East is another issue entirely and has little or nothing to do with American-born Muslims, particularly those who weren&#8217;t converts in prison or non-Arab weirdos who embraced Islam to &#8220;find themselves.&#8221;)</p>
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