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	<title>Comments on: Tom Hayden on Alex Sanchez &amp; the Power of Judges</title>
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		<title>By: Rob Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony - I thought the AVE&#039;s were the worst gang in America. How many worst gangs does America have?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony &#8211; I thought the AVE&#8217;s were the worst gang in America. How many worst gangs does America have?</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Rafael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Rafael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MS 13 is the most dangerous gang in America!  They have been proven to be involved with marijuana sells.  That right there is enough reason to classify them as terrorists, and declare war on them.  Have you seen what pot does to people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MS 13 is the most dangerous gang in America!  They have been proven to be involved with marijuana sells.  That right there is enough reason to classify them as terrorists, and declare war on them.  Have you seen what pot does to people?</p>
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		<title>By: WTF</title>
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		<dc:creator>WTF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should have a mandatory retirement age for all government employees, no 85 year old fart should still be working. The old fart should retire and let a younger person, who needs the job sit on the bench. With our high employment rate, the old fool should be spending more time in his rocking chair and not a judge&#039;s bench.

I rarely meet anyone over 80 whose mental capicity has not diminished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should have a mandatory retirement age for all government employees, no 85 year old fart should still be working. The old fart should retire and let a younger person, who needs the job sit on the bench. With our high employment rate, the old fool should be spending more time in his rocking chair and not a judge&#8217;s bench.</p>
<p>I rarely meet anyone over 80 whose mental capicity has not diminished.</p>
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		<title>By: Pokey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pokey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though Tom Hayden is having a dÃ©jÃ  vu experience, I think it does not help Sanchezâ€™s case to bring up the comparison, since this does not appear to be a political case, but instead an attempt by law enforcement to arrest M13 leadership and any sympathizers. 

Because, the M13 gang has been responsible for numerous brutal murders (leaving a dismembered corpses and decapitated heads, as their calling card) and surprisingly also appears to have ties to Al Qaeda and the Drug Cartels, law enforcement is treating M13 as terrorists and an enemy of the United States

From the FBIâ€™s/LAPDâ€™s point of view Alex Sanchez is providing Aid and Comfort to the enemy, but since M13 isnâ€™t an official enemy the FBI had to settle for the conspiracy charges.

Judge Real seems to have bought in on this rationale and so had already concluded that Alex Sanchez would not be released ever on bail irrespective of any evidence presented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though Tom Hayden is having a dÃ©jÃ  vu experience, I think it does not help Sanchezâ€™s case to bring up the comparison, since this does not appear to be a political case, but instead an attempt by law enforcement to arrest M13 leadership and any sympathizers. </p>
<p>Because, the M13 gang has been responsible for numerous brutal murders (leaving a dismembered corpses and decapitated heads, as their calling card) and surprisingly also appears to have ties to Al Qaeda and the Drug Cartels, law enforcement is treating M13 as terrorists and an enemy of the United States</p>
<p>From the FBIâ€™s/LAPDâ€™s point of view Alex Sanchez is providing Aid and Comfort to the enemy, but since M13 isnâ€™t an official enemy the FBI had to settle for the conspiracy charges.</p>
<p>Judge Real seems to have bought in on this rationale and so had already concluded that Alex Sanchez would not be released ever on bail irrespective of any evidence presented.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Braun noted tiny but crucial moves by Real that can cripple any semblance of a fair judicial process, such as prohibiting jurors from taking notes or asking that courtroom testimony be read back to them while debating a verdict.&quot;

This guy should be impeached...

Also, Hayden should have just left the Chicago 8 trial out of his piece.  The current trial is not about him and his  own trial is ancient history that muddies the waters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Braun noted tiny but crucial moves by Real that can cripple any semblance of a fair judicial process, such as prohibiting jurors from taking notes or asking that courtroom testimony be read back to them while debating a verdict.&#8221;</p>
<p>This guy should be impeached&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, Hayden should have just left the Chicago 8 trial out of his piece.  The current trial is not about him and his  own trial is ancient history that muddies the waters.</p>
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		<title>By: reg</title>
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		<dc:creator>reg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shouldn&#039;t there, perhaps, be some retirement age for judges?  Like maybe 80?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#8217;t there, perhaps, be some retirement age for judges?  Like maybe 80?</p>
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		<title>By: Celeste Fremon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celeste Fremon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops, Mavis, your comment came in while I was writing mine.

You have highlighted where Hayden and I vigorously disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooops, Mavis, your comment came in while I was writing mine.</p>
<p>You have highlighted where Hayden and I vigorously disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: Celeste Fremon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celeste Fremon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SureFire, 

I wish we had something from the prosecution.  The closest I can get is Tom Diaz&#039;s blog, because he seems to be privy to much of their stuff and leans toward the prosecution&#039;s POV as he knows some of the players on their side, like Det. Frank Flores.

Diaz and I are in touch regularly on this. But, now that I think about it, I&#039;ll link to his latest blogpost on the matter.

It still won&#039;t give you (or me) the info we want to adequately assess what is what.  All that will have to wait for trial.

About Judge Real....  He&#039;s quite...um...something.  Really, even some veteran prosecutors who stopped in to watch the last hearing found his actions this last time to be &quot;extraordinary,&quot; as one put it to me in an email. And he didn&#039;t mean this in a good way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SureFire, </p>
<p>I wish we had something from the prosecution.  The closest I can get is Tom Diaz&#8217;s blog, because he seems to be privy to much of their stuff and leans toward the prosecution&#8217;s POV as he knows some of the players on their side, like Det. Frank Flores.</p>
<p>Diaz and I are in touch regularly on this. But, now that I think about it, I&#8217;ll link to his latest blogpost on the matter.</p>
<p>It still won&#8217;t give you (or me) the info we want to adequately assess what is what.  All that will have to wait for trial.</p>
<p>About Judge Real&#8230;.  He&#8217;s quite&#8230;um&#8230;something.  Really, even some veteran prosecutors who stopped in to watch the last hearing found his actions this last time to be &#8220;extraordinary,&#8221; as one put it to me in an email. And he didn&#8217;t mean this in a good way.</p>
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		<title>By: Mavis Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mavis Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t know how you get around the judge&#039;s false assertion that none of the letters addressed whether or not Sanchez is a flight risk.  That seems like really bad behavior.  I may be wrong about this, but can&#039;t a defendant request a new judge?  Certainly his not reading those letters seems like grounds.

As a side note, I think Hayden is making a mistake turning the government&#039;s case against Sanchez into a political crusade.  He just doesn&#039;t have the evidence to make that kind of very serious accusation convincingly.  It&#039;s not like there&#039;s a question whether or not there were real crimes committed, only whether Sanchez is guilty of being involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t know how you get around the judge&#8217;s false assertion that none of the letters addressed whether or not Sanchez is a flight risk.  That seems like really bad behavior.  I may be wrong about this, but can&#8217;t a defendant request a new judge?  Certainly his not reading those letters seems like grounds.</p>
<p>As a side note, I think Hayden is making a mistake turning the government&#8217;s case against Sanchez into a political crusade.  He just doesn&#8217;t have the evidence to make that kind of very serious accusation convincingly.  It&#8217;s not like there&#8217;s a question whether or not there were real crimes committed, only whether Sanchez is guilty of being involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Sure Fire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sure Fire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read Hayden&#039;s piece and it really means zero without a response from the prosecution and you know that can&#039;t happen Celeste. Won&#039;t even try to argue his Real statements, everyone in the L.A. judiciary that&#039;s ever seen him in action knows he&#039;s way out there. The 9th Circuit is known for its own high reversal rate so their take on just about anything can be pretty much tossed.

Bottom line is Cameron has a conversation with Sanchez, sounds to me like Sanchez is pissed about what Cameron has been putting out about him (probably with good cause) and Cameron is murdered a week later.

Haydens little take on the Chicago 7 Trial, even the mentioning of that idiot Weinglass was self serving and people should read up on the trial themselves rather than listen to Hayden. The actions of Weinglass in the Mumia trial are enough to show what he&#039;s all about.

The trial should be quite the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Hayden&#8217;s piece and it really means zero without a response from the prosecution and you know that can&#8217;t happen Celeste. Won&#8217;t even try to argue his Real statements, everyone in the L.A. judiciary that&#8217;s ever seen him in action knows he&#8217;s way out there. The 9th Circuit is known for its own high reversal rate so their take on just about anything can be pretty much tossed.</p>
<p>Bottom line is Cameron has a conversation with Sanchez, sounds to me like Sanchez is pissed about what Cameron has been putting out about him (probably with good cause) and Cameron is murdered a week later.</p>
<p>Haydens little take on the Chicago 7 Trial, even the mentioning of that idiot Weinglass was self serving and people should read up on the trial themselves rather than listen to Hayden. The actions of Weinglass in the Mumia trial are enough to show what he&#8217;s all about.</p>
<p>The trial should be quite the show.</p>
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