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	<title>Comments on: Bernie Goes to Jail:  It&#8217;s About Bloody Time!</title>
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		<title>By: Celeste Fremon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celeste Fremon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was a joke aimed at me because I have co-directed a poetry program for former gang members.  

And please find a way to comment without using &quot;fuck&quot; every fourth word.

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was a joke aimed at me because I have co-directed a poetry program for former gang members.  </p>
<p>And please find a way to comment without using &#8220;fuck&#8221; every fourth word.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Barack Obama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barack Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 21:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you a fucking dumbass, &quot;lost Poetry&quot;? How the fuck would Bernie fucking Madoff be different if he read poetry? You are the kind of person that is ruining the world. Your probably some gay ass fuck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you a fucking dumbass, &#8220;lost Poetry&#8221;? How the fuck would Bernie fucking Madoff be different if he read poetry? You are the kind of person that is ruining the world. Your probably some gay ass fuck</p>
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		<title>By: Celeste Fremon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celeste Fremon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LP....I like Slick Rick.  Okay, poetry AND cautionary children&#039;s stories.  That works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LP&#8230;.I like Slick Rick.  Okay, poetry AND cautionary children&#8217;s stories.  That works.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509018,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How Madoff would be punished in other nations rather than forced to survive in our prisons....&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Saudi Arabia - &quot;For stealing in Saudi Arabia they cut your hands off.&quot; 

China - &quot;In the U.S. you get the death penalty only for murder; in China you can get the death penalty for stealing money ... or doing anything considered a threat to the state.&quot;

Russia - &quot;...political problems also beset the Russian legal system, Madoff&#039;s sentence would be a stark one if he fell out of favor with the ruling majority.  &#039;They tend to send the most important prisoners to Siberia, to the far east in Russia, to prisons that are pretty awful.&#039;&quot;

In Japan - &quot;Sometimes in cases like this where there&#039;s a strong sense of a personal failure and betraying the group and the group&#039;s welfare, someone might commit suicide, having dishonored himself.&quot;

In progressive areas of California: 
&quot;Biker #1: I say, we kill him. 
Biker Gang: YEAH! 
Biker #2: I say we hang him, then we kill him. 
Biker Gang: YEAH! 
Biker #3: I say we stab him, then we hang him, then we kill him! 
Biker Gang: YEAH! 
Biker #4: I say we grab him... 
Biker gang: Yeah? 
Biker #4: Then we beat him, then we kick him, then we tattoo him, then we shoot him, then we stab him, and THEN we kill him! 
Biker Gang: Yeah! 
Biker Babe: And I say...you let ME have him first!! 
Biker Gang: OH YEAH!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,509018,00.html" rel="nofollow">How Madoff would be punished in other nations rather than forced to survive in our prisons&#8230;.</a></b></p>
<p>Saudi Arabia &#8211; &#8220;For stealing in Saudi Arabia they cut your hands off.&#8221; </p>
<p>China &#8211; &#8220;In the U.S. you get the death penalty only for murder; in China you can get the death penalty for stealing money &#8230; or doing anything considered a threat to the state.&#8221;</p>
<p>Russia &#8211; &#8220;&#8230;political problems also beset the Russian legal system, Madoff&#8217;s sentence would be a stark one if he fell out of favor with the ruling majority.  &#8216;They tend to send the most important prisoners to Siberia, to the far east in Russia, to prisons that are pretty awful.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>In Japan &#8211; &#8220;Sometimes in cases like this where there&#8217;s a strong sense of a personal failure and betraying the group and the group&#8217;s welfare, someone might commit suicide, having dishonored himself.&#8221;</p>
<p>In progressive areas of California:<br />
&#8220;Biker #1: I say, we kill him.<br />
Biker Gang: YEAH!<br />
Biker #2: I say we hang him, then we kill him.<br />
Biker Gang: YEAH!<br />
Biker #3: I say we stab him, then we hang him, then we kill him!<br />
Biker Gang: YEAH!<br />
Biker #4: I say we grab him&#8230;<br />
Biker gang: Yeah?<br />
Biker #4: Then we beat him, then we kick him, then we tattoo him, then we shoot him, then we stab him, and THEN we kill him!<br />
Biker Gang: Yeah!<br />
Biker Babe: And I say&#8230;you let ME have him first!!<br />
Biker Gang: OH YEAH!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, it&#039;s too late for Madoff to have his tattoos removed to get honest work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, it&#8217;s too late for Madoff to have his tattoos removed to get honest work.</p>
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		<title>By: lost poetry</title>
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		<dc:creator>lost poetry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 05:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a classic children&#039;s story about greed and it&#039;s adverse effects on a young man&#039;s life. Madoff and others should learn from Slick Rick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRC4ziQpb5I</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a classic children&#8217;s story about greed and it&#8217;s adverse effects on a young man&#8217;s life. Madoff and others should learn from Slick Rick.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRC4ziQpb5I" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRC4ziQpb5I</a></p>
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		<title>By: Celeste Fremon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celeste Fremon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 04:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LP, I think you&#039;re quite right. Had Bernie M. been exposed to the right poetry---all would have been different.  But that begs the question....WHICH POETRY?

I challenge you to come up with ta poem or two that Bernie &lt;em&gt; should &lt;/em&gt; have read to have avoided all this heartache.

I&#039;m happy to star the ball rolling with:

Rimbaud&#039;s &lt;em&gt; A Season in Hell &lt;/em&gt;

http://www.poets.org/m/dsp_poem.php?prmMID=19836

And then, randomly, &lt;em&gt; O Me! O Life!&lt;/em&gt; by Walt Whitman.  

http://www.poets.org/m/dsp_poem.php?prmMID=20247

Over to you.

I&#039;m sure there&#039;s better.  But those are my first two pitches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LP, I think you&#8217;re quite right. Had Bernie M. been exposed to the right poetry&#8212;all would have been different.  But that begs the question&#8230;.WHICH POETRY?</p>
<p>I challenge you to come up with ta poem or two that Bernie <em> should </em> have read to have avoided all this heartache.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy to star the ball rolling with:</p>
<p>Rimbaud&#8217;s <em> A Season in Hell </em></p>
<p><a href="http://www.poets.org/m/dsp_poem.php?prmMID=19836" rel="nofollow">http://www.poets.org/m/dsp_poem.php?prmMID=19836</a></p>
<p>And then, randomly, <em> O Me! O Life!</em> by Walt Whitman.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.poets.org/m/dsp_poem.php?prmMID=20247" rel="nofollow">http://www.poets.org/m/dsp_poem.php?prmMID=20247</a></p>
<p>Over to you.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s better.  But those are my first two pitches.</p>
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		<title>By: lost poetry</title>
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		<dc:creator>lost poetry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll have to agree with Woody on this one, Madoff is why we need more poetry programs. If Madoff had the oppurtunity to attend summer camp or poetry readings he would not have comitted any crimes. Madoff is going to be another victim of our draconian prison system, Madoff is also another example of our society failing it&#039;s best young minds.

I hope Obama will pardon Madoff and Madoff&#039;s skills in managing our national debt.  It is a real disgrace that our country would jail a non-violent peaceful person, free Madoff now !!!! 

Let&#039;s write to President Obama and not continue with the draconian ways of Bush &amp; Cheney !!!!



Free Madoff now !!!! 

Free Madoff now !!!! 

Si Se Puede now !!!! 

Free Madoff now !!!! 

Free Madoff now !!!! 

Si Se Puede now !!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to agree with Woody on this one, Madoff is why we need more poetry programs. If Madoff had the oppurtunity to attend summer camp or poetry readings he would not have comitted any crimes. Madoff is going to be another victim of our draconian prison system, Madoff is also another example of our society failing it&#8217;s best young minds.</p>
<p>I hope Obama will pardon Madoff and Madoff&#8217;s skills in managing our national debt.  It is a real disgrace that our country would jail a non-violent peaceful person, free Madoff now !!!! </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s write to President Obama and not continue with the draconian ways of Bush &amp; Cheney !!!!</p>
<p>Free Madoff now !!!! </p>
<p>Free Madoff now !!!! </p>
<p>Si Se Puede now !!!! </p>
<p>Free Madoff now !!!! </p>
<p>Free Madoff now !!!! </p>
<p>Si Se Puede now !!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only Madoff had gotten into poetry before he went bad.

Madoff could end up at the Club Fed prison camp at Maxwell AFB in Montgomery, unless the length of his term exceeds twenty-five years.  Maybe he&#039;ll end up at the Atlanta Pen!  I know a CPA/Attorney (Fred Tokars) there who had his wife murdered.  I never did like him, and that violated the ethics code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only Madoff had gotten into poetry before he went bad.</p>
<p>Madoff could end up at the Club Fed prison camp at Maxwell AFB in Montgomery, unless the length of his term exceeds twenty-five years.  Maybe he&#8217;ll end up at the Atlanta Pen!  I know a CPA/Attorney (Fred Tokars) there who had his wife murdered.  I never did like him, and that violated the ethics code.</p>
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		<title>By: Pokey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pokey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Super MAX prisons like ADMAX, where solitary confinement is the norm are a direct result of the elimination of capital punishment as a determent.

Now a prisoner who already has several life sentences has nothing to loose by killing a guard or another prisoner.

Sounds like a great place for Madoff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Super MAX prisons like ADMAX, where solitary confinement is the norm are a direct result of the elimination of capital punishment as a determent.</p>
<p>Now a prisoner who already has several life sentences has nothing to loose by killing a guard or another prisoner.</p>
<p>Sounds like a great place for Madoff.</p>
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