Comments on: Cracked Logic http://witnessla.com/crime-and-punishment/2008/admin/cracked-logic/ street news, views and stories of justice and injustice Tue, 22 May 2012 19:12:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Randy Paul http://witnessla.com/crime-and-punishment/2008/admin/cracked-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-7760 Randy Paul Tue, 12 Feb 2008 16:14:18 +0000 http://witnessla.com/crime-and-punishment/2008/admin/cracked-logic/#comment-7760 Woody, you still can't address the substance of what I wrote. Nice try to divert the discussion, but again, Mukasey needs to put up or shut up. Woody, you still can’t address the substance of what I wrote. Nice try to divert the discussion, but again, Mukasey needs to put up or shut up.

]]> By: Woody http://witnessla.com/crime-and-punishment/2008/admin/cracked-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-7757 Woody Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:37:36 +0000 http://witnessla.com/crime-and-punishment/2008/admin/cracked-logic/#comment-7757 Public Speaking 101 - Do not ruin your talk or bore your audience with continuous footnotes, which can be provided if later asked, just for the sake of some liberal who whines for them and tries to divert the discussion. Public Speaking 101 – Do not ruin your talk or bore your audience with continuous footnotes, which can be provided if later asked, just for the sake of some liberal who whines for them and tries to divert the discussion.

]]> By: Randy Paul http://witnessla.com/crime-and-punishment/2008/admin/cracked-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-7743 Randy Paul Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:56:46 +0000 http://witnessla.com/crime-and-punishment/2008/admin/cracked-logic/#comment-7743 Once again, it comes down to Logic 101. Mukasey is making the claim. He is duty bound to provide evidence to prove his claim, including where he came up with those numbers. This comment underscores why Mukasey is fearmongering: <blockquote>Not every crack cocaine offender will be eligible for a lower sentence under the decision. A Federal sentencing judge will make the final determination of whether an offender is eligible for a lower sentence and how much that sentence should be lowered. That determination will be made only after consideration of many factors, including the Commission’s direction to consider whether lowering the offender’s sentence would pose a danger to public safety. In addition, the overall impact is anticipated to occur incrementally over approximately 30 years, due to the limited nature of the guideline amendment and the fact that many crack cocaine offenders will still be required under Federal law to serve mandatory five- or ten-year sentences because of the amount of crack involved in their offense.</blockquote> If Mukasey can't back upo his claims with proof and facts, then he is pulling numbers out of his ass. Allow me to quote Ronald Reagan: Put up or shut up. Once again, it comes down to Logic 101. Mukasey is making the claim. He is duty bound to provide evidence to prove his claim, including where he came up with those numbers.

This comment underscores why Mukasey is fearmongering:

Not every crack cocaine offender will be eligible for a lower sentence under the decision. A Federal sentencing judge will make the final determination of whether an offender is eligible for a lower sentence and how much that sentence should be lowered. That determination will be made only after consideration of many factors, including the Commission’s direction to consider whether lowering the offender’s sentence would pose a danger to public safety. In addition, the overall impact is anticipated to occur incrementally over approximately 30 years, due to the limited nature of the guideline amendment and the fact that many crack cocaine offenders will still be required under Federal law to serve mandatory five- or ten-year sentences because of the amount of crack involved in their offense.

If Mukasey can’t back upo his claims with proof and facts, then he is pulling numbers out of his ass. Allow me to quote Ronald Reagan: Put up or shut up.

]]> By: Woody http://witnessla.com/crime-and-punishment/2008/admin/cracked-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-7737 Woody Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:49:25 +0000 http://witnessla.com/crime-and-punishment/2008/admin/cracked-logic/#comment-7737 Celeste, the Sentencing Commission does not offer an estimate of how many dangerous felons would be released under the program. It doesn't know, but some slip through--with special thanks to liberal judges. I don't know where anyone gets such statistics, but their news release of one page does not contradict what the Atty. Gen. said. It's anyone's guess. Maybe it's like saying the Jena 6 should be released with no danger to society and then finding that one of them attacked another student last week. Celeste, the Sentencing Commission does not offer an estimate of how many dangerous felons would be released under the program. It doesn’t know, but some slip through–with special thanks to liberal judges. I don’t know where anyone gets such statistics, but their news release of one page does not contradict what the Atty. Gen. said. It’s anyone’s guess. Maybe it’s like saying the Jena 6 should be released with no danger to society and then finding that one of them attacked another student last week.

]]> By: Celeste Fremon http://witnessla.com/crime-and-punishment/2008/admin/cracked-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-7729 Celeste Fremon Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:34:30 +0000 http://witnessla.com/crime-and-punishment/2008/admin/cracked-logic/#comment-7729 Woody, I'm not taking anyone's word for it. I'm simply stating the facts as presented by the sentencing commission itself, which is the body that worked out the system. Here's the summary: http://www.ussc.gov/PRESS/rel121107.htm If it makes you feel better, it's not just Mukasey. Hillary Clinton (as I've written before here and at Huff Post), has also used the issue as a political football. Follow that link about the dems and you'll find the story. Woody, I’m not taking anyone’s word for it. I’m simply stating the facts as presented by the sentencing commission itself, which is the body that worked out the system. Here’s the summary:

http://www.ussc.gov/PRESS/rel121107.htm

If it makes you feel better, it’s not just Mukasey. Hillary Clinton (as I’ve written before here and at Huff Post), has also used the issue as a political football. Follow that link about the dems and you’ll find the story.

]]> By: Woody http://witnessla.com/crime-and-punishment/2008/admin/cracked-logic/comment-page-1/#comment-7716 Woody Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:36:09 +0000 http://witnessla.com/crime-and-punishment/2008/admin/cracked-logic/#comment-7716 Celeste: <i>Only one teensy weensy problem with Mukasey’s statement. It wasn’t true. Here’s what the NAACP had to say.... The New York Times weighed in as well this past weekend in an excellent editorial....</i> Wait. Let me get this straight. The U.S. Attorney General is a liar, but the NAACP and The NY Times are credible sources?! Oh, Celeste. If you want to call A.G. Maukasey a liar, you need better alternate sources and facts than those which have an ax to grind and have been found to come up with some pretty good lies of their own. Celeste: Only one teensy weensy problem with Mukasey’s statement. It wasn’t true.
Here’s what the NAACP had to say….
The New York Times weighed in as well this past weekend in an excellent editorial….

Wait. Let me get this straight. The U.S. Attorney General is a liar, but the NAACP and The NY Times are credible sources?! Oh, Celeste. If you want to call A.G. Maukasey a liar, you need better alternate sources and facts than those which have an ax to grind and have been found to come up with some pretty good lies of their own.

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