Comments on: California’s $252,000 Kids

By: Chip Warren

Chip Warren — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:06:39 +0000

A lot of politicians may find it politically inexpedient to follow the money in cases of juvenile justice, but I doubt taxpayers will. Those of us who work for reform see that it’s actually with compassion that we consider the problem from that angle. People with only media-deep experience with juvenile issues should be banned from legislating on the matter.

Nice work,

Chip

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By: WBC

WBC — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:38:43 +0000

I meant, no one’s preventing illegals from attending college (not preventing college)… Their real problem seems to be that many linger ON in college and grad school as long as they can, living off grants etc., since they lack work permits.

By: WBC

WBC — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:37:07 +0000

Yeah, notice how McCain’s following Obama around to LaRaza and NAACP conferences, and saying whatever the audience wants to hear, moving left of his own position on immigratin to agreeing to no-consequences legalization, “but first securing the borders” in perfect contradictin to himself. Supporting The Dream Act, too. But if he wins, he’ll have to bow to the majority of the public, which doesn’t think giving foreign nationals preference over Americans from NV or AZ makes sense — no one’s preventing illegals from preventing college, contrary to the misldeading hype Cedillo and his backers are putting out there, it’s just a matter of not subsidizing them more than a kid of any race from out of state. He’s just trying to scoop up some of those Hillary votes right now. but he’ll waffle and swing like a pendulum, just like Obama has.

Roscoe’s House of Chicken and Waffles right here in LA, with an original in Hollywood and another on the edge of the hood, are about as Southern as you can get — the first location is “hip” with clubbers and rockers, the other, real down-home. == As for the waffler McCain, he’s probably not conservative enough for Woody’s taste, or his Party’s, and will shift again just before the Convention, I betcha.

By: richard locicero

richard locicero — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 00:24:45 +0000

WBC wanna bet on changing that part of the 14th? John McCain waffled real good at LULAC theother day on that – now he supports the “American Dream” Act (College help for students here in “undocumented” status – and, no, most of them had no say in the matter and have lived here since infancy.

(Reference to st john for Woody’s benefit – waffle houses being so big where he lives!)

By: WBC

WBC — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 20:48:50 +0000

There are in fact plans afoot to amend the 14th to include only those here legally — it was intended to cover slaves who had no choice about living here. We’re the only country which grants automatic citizenship to babies born of illegals, who often come here just to have their babies for that reason to “anchor” them and their whole families against deportation, i.e., obeying the law. Like that Arellano woman tried to do (but it backfired), they intentionally use having babies here (at our expense, almost always) to garner lib sympathy against “breaking up the family” and the cruelties of ICE. People are seeing through it and have had enough. Virtualy every one of Celeste’s sob stories falls under this category. Funny, how the parents who are nationals of Mexico or C. America, still demand and receive protection from their own embassies — they want to have it both ways.

You’re well aware that in Europe the kids born to “guest workers” don’t attain citizenship, nor do they anywhere else in the world. (Yeah, this breeds a different set of problems, but you don’t see anyone there seeking to emulate US.) In every Asian country, even the children born to a citizen male and a non- citizen female don’t achieve automatic citizenship — that’s arguably truly xeonophobic, but our system is suicidal AND as #7 says, can be amended BACK TO THE ORIGINAL INTENT.

By: Woody

Woody — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:41:30 +0000

Send these kids for a few months to that crazy sheriff in Arizona who makes inmates live in tents in the desert and wear pink underwear. The kids will change, there isn’t a union, and the cost will be minimal.

By: Adam C.

Adam C. — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:04:35 +0000

As fun as it is for me to read Compassionate Conservatives fantasize about amending the constitution to deny children citizenship, I think we may be ignoring the biggest problem: namely the Prison Guard Union. I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t see them taking too kindly to an audit, and I certainly donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t see any politician standing up to them in the near future

By: Lost the Money

Lost the Money — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:35:27 +0000

The numbers above are the reason most taxpayers agree with a “Woody” type, we don’t need to spend more money on social programs. For that amount of money each kid’s entire family can live in a nice home and afford to pay for medical insurance. But anybody who has worked on any large government run project knows how money is wasted.

And in the L.A. area I’m sure a very high percentage of these kids are kids of illegal aliens, and as far as the 14th amendment is concerned it’s an “Amendment” which can be “Re-Amended”, to only include slaves. The 14th amendment was not originally intended to protect everybody who sneaks into the country illegally, and many people have come to the U.S., just for the free pre-natal health care, and having an “anchor” baby, as a path to citizenship. Just because it’s not politically correct to say this, does not mean it doesn’t happen on a regular basis.

By: Celeste Fremon

Celeste Fremon — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:33:47 +0000

For the record, Harvard’s endowments help it with scholarships.

Stanford’s tuition and room and board are, $36,030 and $11,182 respectively.

Yale is $45,000 for tuition plus room and board.

And the California Youth Authority is $89,430 “tuition” plus $43,180 “room and board”…and $37, 490 for “campus security,” shall we say.

Welcome to the prison industrial complex.

These numbers aren’t excessive. They’re psychotic.

By: Woody

Woody — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 18:23:04 +0000

C: We definitely need an audit.

Don’t count on an audit telling you the complete story. One time we audited a government funded social services agency. Because we discovered so many questioned costs, missing funds, waste, and luxury retreats, the agency got upset, fired us, and hired a minority firm. Their results looked better in the paper than did ours.

The $250,000 per prison kid per year is typical of government. In Atlanta, the per student costs to not educate kids in public schools are enough to send each one to the finest private local schools. Now, Harvard may be an exception to make a comparison, as it has a giant endowment fund that pays some of its expenses.

Such waste in government is common and should be enough to make most people become conservatives–compassionate ones, of course. Good job, Celeste.