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		<title>By: van</title>
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		<dc:creator>van</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guns dont kill people - people kill people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guns dont kill people &#8211; people kill people.</p>
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		<title>By: maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just today, Newt Gingrich picked up on this story as &quot;Americans being murdered by illegal alien gangsters.&quot;  One of the guys is an illegal from Peru, the other from Nicaragua, and both were convicted of violent crimes.  Why were they out on the streets?  Political correctness in Newark even worse than SP40 here in L. A., it seems.

This is not a matter of politics, but common sense.  Deport illegals who commit a crime (and any who can&#039;t show a strong reason to be allowed to remain), and this repeat crime would not have happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just today, Newt Gingrich picked up on this story as &#8220;Americans being murdered by illegal alien gangsters.&#8221;  One of the guys is an illegal from Peru, the other from Nicaragua, and both were convicted of violent crimes.  Why were they out on the streets?  Political correctness in Newark even worse than SP40 here in L. A., it seems.</p>
<p>This is not a matter of politics, but common sense.  Deport illegals who commit a crime (and any who can&#8217;t show a strong reason to be allowed to remain), and this repeat crime would not have happened.</p>
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		<title>By: listener_on_the_sidelines</title>
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		<dc:creator>listener_on_the_sidelines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Herbert has a column up on the NYTimes today : &lt;em&gt;A Bloodbath in Newark, and Beyond &lt;/em&gt; which is behind the Times paywall.  Some takeaway quotes that Pokey is sure to love...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Cory Booker seemed tired, beleaguered, bewildered.

The young mayor had been on the run with very little sleep for several days. Now, during a break in a private room at City Hall here, he leaned forward in his chair and said, Ã¢â‚¬Å“There is something going on in our country that people are not, for some reason, awake to.Ã¢â‚¬Â

He then mentioned what he described as a Ã¢â‚¬Å“poignantÃ¢â‚¬Â meeting heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d had with a top official of the F.B.I. Ã¢â‚¬Å“I asked him, Ã¢â‚¬ËœWhat is the solution to this problem?Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ Ã¢â‚¬Â said Mr. Booker. Ã¢â‚¬Å“And he said to me, Ã¢â‚¬ËœItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s not law enforcement.Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ Ã¢â‚¬Â&lt;/blockquote&gt;

[snip]


&lt;blockquote&gt;The communities hardest hit are those in which too many parents have failed their children. The most effective anti-crime effort begins at home with parents (fathers, are you listening?) who raise their kids to know better than to point a gun at another human being and blow that person away for no good reason.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Somehow, I&#039;m not at all sure that reminding fathers to &lt;strong&gt;be&lt;/strong&gt; fathers is going to work.  The piece that I find as worrisome as anything else in the column is this.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Forty years after the riots that wrecked this city, Newark is once again unnerved. People are calling for the resignation of a mayor who has been in office only a year. Others want the National Guard to start patrolling the streets, a stomach-turning suggestion to many who remember the riots.

The sheriff of Essex County, Armando Fontoura, lost it completely on Tuesday, loudly declaring, Ã¢â‚¬Å“IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m on the verge of telling my guys to suspend civil liberties and start frisking everybody.Ã¢â‚¬Â

ThereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a fever in the city. But the biggest mistake one could make in looking at the gratuitous slaughter of these young people (three arrests have been made and more are expected) is to view it as a problem peculiar to Newark.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The riot in Watts began on August 11, 1965.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Herbert has a column up on the NYTimes today : <em>A Bloodbath in Newark, and Beyond </em> which is behind the Times paywall.  Some takeaway quotes that Pokey is sure to love&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Cory Booker seemed tired, beleaguered, bewildered.</p>
<p>The young mayor had been on the run with very little sleep for several days. Now, during a break in a private room at City Hall here, he leaned forward in his chair and said, Ã¢â‚¬Å“There is something going on in our country that people are not, for some reason, awake to.Ã¢â‚¬Â</p>
<p>He then mentioned what he described as a Ã¢â‚¬Å“poignantÃ¢â‚¬Â meeting heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d had with a top official of the F.B.I. Ã¢â‚¬Å“I asked him, Ã¢â‚¬ËœWhat is the solution to this problem?Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ Ã¢â‚¬Â said Mr. Booker. Ã¢â‚¬Å“And he said to me, Ã¢â‚¬ËœItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s not law enforcement.Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ Ã¢â‚¬Â</p></blockquote>
<p>[snip]</p>
<blockquote><p>The communities hardest hit are those in which too many parents have failed their children. The most effective anti-crime effort begins at home with parents (fathers, are you listening?) who raise their kids to know better than to point a gun at another human being and blow that person away for no good reason.</p></blockquote>
<p>Somehow, I&#8217;m not at all sure that reminding fathers to <strong>be</strong> fathers is going to work.  The piece that I find as worrisome as anything else in the column is this.</p>
<blockquote><p>Forty years after the riots that wrecked this city, Newark is once again unnerved. People are calling for the resignation of a mayor who has been in office only a year. Others want the National Guard to start patrolling the streets, a stomach-turning suggestion to many who remember the riots.</p>
<p>The sheriff of Essex County, Armando Fontoura, lost it completely on Tuesday, loudly declaring, Ã¢â‚¬Å“IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢m on the verge of telling my guys to suspend civil liberties and start frisking everybody.Ã¢â‚¬Â</p>
<p>ThereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s a fever in the city. But the biggest mistake one could make in looking at the gratuitous slaughter of these young people (three arrests have been made and more are expected) is to view it as a problem peculiar to Newark.</p></blockquote>
<p>The riot in Watts began on August 11, 1965.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 15:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LINK: &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_travel/20070810/ap_tr_ge/travel_brief_passenger_s_t_shirt;_ylt=Al.PFr2kZ_AlZ2TfhJ0oEiA8sM0F&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Idiots&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

&quot;Racial profiling is illegal and ineffective and has no place in a democratic society,&quot; said Reginald Shuford, an ACLU senior staff attorney.

See.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LINK: <b><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap_travel/20070810/ap_tr_ge/travel_brief_passenger_s_t_shirt;_ylt=Al.PFr2kZ_AlZ2TfhJ0oEiA8sM0F" rel="nofollow">Idiots</a></b></p>
<p>&#8220;Racial profiling is illegal and ineffective and has no place in a democratic society,&#8221; said Reginald Shuford, an ACLU senior staff attorney.</p>
<p>See.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 15:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, well all of the terrorists are young Islamic men, but the liberals don&#039;t believe in profiling. Ana, you&#039;re stating the statistics backwards.  Rather than admitting that many crimes are done by illegals (of which most are Mexican), you state that most illegals don&#039;t commit crimes.  Well, so what?  Most Islamic people don&#039;t commit crimes, but that shouldn&#039;t stop us from targeting that segment when they do so repeatedly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, well all of the terrorists are young Islamic men, but the liberals don&#8217;t believe in profiling. Ana, you&#8217;re stating the statistics backwards.  Rather than admitting that many crimes are done by illegals (of which most are Mexican), you state that most illegals don&#8217;t commit crimes.  Well, so what?  Most Islamic people don&#8217;t commit crimes, but that shouldn&#8217;t stop us from targeting that segment when they do so repeatedly.</p>
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		<title>By: Ana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 00:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am SO freakin tired of peeps agains &quot;prejudice&quot; being hypocrites. Why do you think all illegal people are from Mexico? News flash : NOT ALL ILLEGALS ARE MEXICAN! 2nd News Flash: NOT ALL ILLEGALS ARE CRIMINALS!! 

That&#039;s like saying all black ppl are ghetto or all Italian&#039;s are mafia. Or to the notes of some bloggers here, that all gun owners are killers! 

Seriously, can we just talk about how people in general, not any specific TYPE of humans, but just as a society in general we are rotting from the inside out. Think about that for a change! And try and find how you can make a difference. Maybe start with recycling. Yeah, that&#039;s a good start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am SO freakin tired of peeps agains &#8220;prejudice&#8221; being hypocrites. Why do you think all illegal people are from Mexico? News flash : NOT ALL ILLEGALS ARE MEXICAN! 2nd News Flash: NOT ALL ILLEGALS ARE CRIMINALS!! </p>
<p>That&#8217;s like saying all black ppl are ghetto or all Italian&#8217;s are mafia. Or to the notes of some bloggers here, that all gun owners are killers! </p>
<p>Seriously, can we just talk about how people in general, not any specific TYPE of humans, but just as a society in general we are rotting from the inside out. Think about that for a change! And try and find how you can make a difference. Maybe start with recycling. Yeah, that&#8217;s a good start.</p>
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		<title>By: Celeste Fremon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celeste Fremon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt; &quot;Looks like Carranza just figured he would get a quick release to Mexico since he is an illegal.&quot; &lt;/em&gt;

Pokey, you know the law better than that.  You can&#039;t fool me.

(For the record,  he&#039;s Peruvian.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> &#8220;Looks like Carranza just figured he would get a quick release to Mexico since he is an illegal.&#8221; </em></p>
<p>Pokey, you know the law better than that.  You can&#8217;t fool me.</p>
<p>(For the record,  he&#8217;s Peruvian.)</p>
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		<title>By: Pokey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pokey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Officials said fingerprints on a bottle found at the shooting scene and ballistics evidence tied Carranza to the crime. Carranza and the teen were charged with three counts of first degree murder, one count of attempted murder, and other charges.&quot;

Looks like Carranza just figured he would get a quick release to Mexico since he is an illegal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Officials said fingerprints on a bottle found at the shooting scene and ballistics evidence tied Carranza to the crime. Carranza and the teen were charged with three counts of first degree murder, one count of attempted murder, and other charges.&#8221;</p>
<p>Looks like Carranza just figured he would get a quick release to Mexico since he is an illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, oh.  The murderer appears to be an illegal immigrant.  I expect liberals to quote vague statistics about how little crime is committed by illegals, as if that would appease the families of the murdered children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, oh.  The murderer appears to be an illegal immigrant.  I expect liberals to quote vague statistics about how little crime is committed by illegals, as if that would appease the families of the murdered children.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first thing that I thought was that Jose Carranza was involved but wasn&#039;t the trigger man.  He&#039;s young, can get a plea bargain to cooperate with the police, may be sentenced as a youthful offender if convicted, and then have some life left to enjoy by doing the right thing now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first thing that I thought was that Jose Carranza was involved but wasn&#8217;t the trigger man.  He&#8217;s young, can get a plea bargain to cooperate with the police, may be sentenced as a youthful offender if convicted, and then have some life left to enjoy by doing the right thing now.</p>
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