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		<title>By: Joe S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have some experience with being incarcerated in Ohio with sex offenders.  The country, states, and communities have put into effect residency restricions and online notification of where they live and work as well as their crime(s).
    Most legislators, no matter what level they are, lose track that the real problem is not treating individuals while they are incarcerated.  While legislators do not want to look soft on crime, they allocate little or no funding to help in the manner best described by psychological and psychiatric associations across America.
    Sex offenders have the second to lowest rate of recidivism at 7.2% (U.S. Department of Justice 2004 Study).  Yet right-wing conservative legislators put the fear into the public, which in turn causes 13 year olds to end up in juvenile detention for smacking butts at school.  This is what fear does.  Thank you for your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have some experience with being incarcerated in Ohio with sex offenders.  The country, states, and communities have put into effect residency restricions and online notification of where they live and work as well as their crime(s).<br />
    Most legislators, no matter what level they are, lose track that the real problem is not treating individuals while they are incarcerated.  While legislators do not want to look soft on crime, they allocate little or no funding to help in the manner best described by psychological and psychiatric associations across America.<br />
    Sex offenders have the second to lowest rate of recidivism at 7.2% (U.S. Department of Justice 2004 Study).  Yet right-wing conservative legislators put the fear into the public, which in turn causes 13 year olds to end up in juvenile detention for smacking butts at school.  This is what fear does.  Thank you for your time.</p>
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		<title>By: maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 04:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The L A Times added a Homicide Map to its Homicide Blog just yesterday -- see at a glance homicide patterns, new killings.
A grim pasttime, but worth checking out if visiting or thinking of moving to a new area, and to see how your area fares overall. Supposedly homicides are down in the city overall, but burglaries and other crimes are up. (?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The L A Times added a Homicide Map to its Homicide Blog just yesterday &#8212; see at a glance homicide patterns, new killings.<br />
A grim pasttime, but worth checking out if visiting or thinking of moving to a new area, and to see how your area fares overall. Supposedly homicides are down in the city overall, but burglaries and other crimes are up. (?)</p>
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		<title>By: poplock</title>
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		<dc:creator>poplock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 03:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The kidnapped victim should be in handcuffs too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The kidnapped victim should be in handcuffs too.</p>
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		<title>By: poplock</title>
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		<dc:creator>poplock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Aug 2007 03:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Pacoima - August 6 in the LA Times 

Los Angeles police are investigating the carjacking and kidnapping of a man that led to a short pursuit and ended with an officer shooting a man in Pacoima, officials said Monday.

Officers patrolling the Mission area in the northeast San Fernando Valley responded to a report of a stolen car being driven erratically around 10 p.m. Sunday, said LAPD Sgt. Lee Sands. When the car, with four men inside, failed to yield, officers began pursuing it.

Officials said the chase lasted several minutes, ending at Laurel Canyon Boulevard near the Ronald Reagan Freeway.

The driver and two occupants got out of the car and ran. At least one man stayed back, pointing a gun at officers, Sands said.

&#039;That&#039;s when the officer-involved shooting occurred,&#039; Sands said.

The gunman, who was not immediately identified, was listed in critical condition after being shot in the neck.

A second suspect was treated for a bite from a police dog after he was discovered hiding in an underground parking lot.

No officers were hurt. Police found that car had been carjacked and its owner kidnapped.

Two people were arrested on suspicion of carjacking and assault with a deadly weapon on a police officer.

Last week, there were three incidents within several hours in which officers were shot at or had to use their weapons to project themselves, Sands said. So far this year, 17 officers have been shot at.

andrew.blankstein@latimes.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Pacoima &#8211; August 6 in the LA Times </p>
<p>Los Angeles police are investigating the carjacking and kidnapping of a man that led to a short pursuit and ended with an officer shooting a man in Pacoima, officials said Monday.</p>
<p>Officers patrolling the Mission area in the northeast San Fernando Valley responded to a report of a stolen car being driven erratically around 10 p.m. Sunday, said LAPD Sgt. Lee Sands. When the car, with four men inside, failed to yield, officers began pursuing it.</p>
<p>Officials said the chase lasted several minutes, ending at Laurel Canyon Boulevard near the Ronald Reagan Freeway.</p>
<p>The driver and two occupants got out of the car and ran. At least one man stayed back, pointing a gun at officers, Sands said.</p>
<p>&#8216;That&#8217;s when the officer-involved shooting occurred,&#8217; Sands said.</p>
<p>The gunman, who was not immediately identified, was listed in critical condition after being shot in the neck.</p>
<p>A second suspect was treated for a bite from a police dog after he was discovered hiding in an underground parking lot.</p>
<p>No officers were hurt. Police found that car had been carjacked and its owner kidnapped.</p>
<p>Two people were arrested on suspicion of carjacking and assault with a deadly weapon on a police officer.</p>
<p>Last week, there were three incidents within several hours in which officers were shot at or had to use their weapons to project themselves, Sands said. So far this year, 17 officers have been shot at.</p>
<p><a href="mailto:andrew.blankstein@latimes.com">andrew.blankstein@latimes.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Celeste Fremon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celeste Fremon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard nothing about this incident, poplock.  Did this just happen in the last couple of days?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard nothing about this incident, poplock.  Did this just happen in the last couple of days?</p>
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		<title>By: poplock</title>
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		<dc:creator>poplock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember the concepts and rules - an innocent is left alone if he/she has no connection to a gang or participating (this includes relatives) in a criminal organization.  
How can a specific gang kidnap an innocent and not expect a green ball?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember the concepts and rules &#8211; an innocent is left alone if he/she has no connection to a gang or participating (this includes relatives) in a criminal organization.<br />
How can a specific gang kidnap an innocent and not expect a green ball?</p>
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		<title>By: poplock</title>
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		<dc:creator>poplock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You see Maggie, you statements continue to make an emphasis that I need sometype of writing program or I am sometype of naive uneducated neighgorhood kid that has no knowledge of global politics or world history. What is that all about? Aside from having my undergraduate degree in Political Science with an emphasis in International Relations and studying aboard , I already went through a successful writing program in my mid 20s with my works published. The only writing I do these days are legal court documents or a happy birthday card to a friend or a relative. Plus, I dont want to tell you my resume because then it defeats the purpose of staying anonymous. A lot of the things I will post are not for everyday viewing.  
I may have grown up in the worst parts of SouthEast Los Angeles but believe me that my education is not from some half ass Cal State College.
Now going back to the gang issues. Ms. Fremon, LA just had an attempted kidnapping in Pacoima by three MS gang members. As you have seen, they shot at LAPD with no regards to the potential consequences. The person that they tried to kidnap was a supermarket owner&#039;s son that has been VERY shady with his past business connections and mexican cartel associations -  very similar to the Numero Uno market guy.  How far will the digging go?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see Maggie, you statements continue to make an emphasis that I need sometype of writing program or I am sometype of naive uneducated neighgorhood kid that has no knowledge of global politics or world history. What is that all about? Aside from having my undergraduate degree in Political Science with an emphasis in International Relations and studying aboard , I already went through a successful writing program in my mid 20s with my works published. The only writing I do these days are legal court documents or a happy birthday card to a friend or a relative. Plus, I dont want to tell you my resume because then it defeats the purpose of staying anonymous. A lot of the things I will post are not for everyday viewing.<br />
I may have grown up in the worst parts of SouthEast Los Angeles but believe me that my education is not from some half ass Cal State College.<br />
Now going back to the gang issues. Ms. Fremon, LA just had an attempted kidnapping in Pacoima by three MS gang members. As you have seen, they shot at LAPD with no regards to the potential consequences. The person that they tried to kidnap was a supermarket owner&#8217;s son that has been VERY shady with his past business connections and mexican cartel associations &#8211;  very similar to the Numero Uno market guy.  How far will the digging go?</p>
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		<title>By: Celeste Fremon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Celeste Fremon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I really enjoy and value the comments of everybody here.    My mom thing just kicked it.  It was probably unnecessary.  

And, Maggie, I&#039;d never delete a comment---and certainly never yours. 

(Okay, there was that one time that WLA suddenly got on the radar of a white supremacist site and a couple of real, trash-spewing trolls showed up.  I spiked a couple of those loathsome creeps.)   

Once in a while my spam catcher holds a comment for moderation for no apparent reason, and I don&#039;t catch it right away. (Usually a bunch of links will trigger it, and it becomes convinced somebody&#039;s trying to sell Rolex replicas.) 

 If that ever happens to you, email me and I&#039;ll rectify it.  

And, Poplock, you too.  For heaven&#039;s sake keep commenting. You contribute a lot of great stuff.

Okay, over and out.  (Need sleep!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I really enjoy and value the comments of everybody here.    My mom thing just kicked it.  It was probably unnecessary.  </p>
<p>And, Maggie, I&#8217;d never delete a comment&#8212;and certainly never yours. </p>
<p>(Okay, there was that one time that WLA suddenly got on the radar of a white supremacist site and a couple of real, trash-spewing trolls showed up.  I spiked a couple of those loathsome creeps.)   </p>
<p>Once in a while my spam catcher holds a comment for moderation for no apparent reason, and I don&#8217;t catch it right away. (Usually a bunch of links will trigger it, and it becomes convinced somebody&#8217;s trying to sell Rolex replicas.) </p>
<p> If that ever happens to you, email me and I&#8217;ll rectify it.  </p>
<p>And, Poplock, you too.  For heaven&#8217;s sake keep commenting. You contribute a lot of great stuff.</p>
<p>Okay, over and out.  (Need sleep!)</p>
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		<title>By: maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apologies,Celeste -- it took so long for the previous to show up -- s/t it&#039;s just off, I guess. And poplock:  please keep writing, sharing your experiences. I really was trying to engage in a dialogue.  I should would rather have you share your feelings here or in one of Celeste&#039;s writing programs... She just has infinitely more understanding and patience with all this, than most of us.  Keep writing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apologies,Celeste &#8212; it took so long for the previous to show up &#8212; s/t it&#8217;s just off, I guess. And poplock:  please keep writing, sharing your experiences. I really was trying to engage in a dialogue.  I should would rather have you share your feelings here or in one of Celeste&#8217;s writing programs&#8230; She just has infinitely more understanding and patience with all this, than most of us.  Keep writing!</p>
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		<title>By: maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 07:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect, Celeste -- and this is your blog and all, and you&#039;re a nice lady -- telling &quot;everyone&quot; not to &quot;shoot to kill&quot; when it&#039;s just one poster, is the sort of liberal equivocation that passes for &quot;conflict resolution&quot; so that nothing is ever really resolved.  Not everyone is always equally wrong and illogical; taking a stand is sometimes the right thing to do.

Well, since you think this reply is worthy of &quot;deletion&quot; it proves the above point -- but it really is surprising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, Celeste &#8212; and this is your blog and all, and you&#8217;re a nice lady &#8212; telling &#8220;everyone&#8221; not to &#8220;shoot to kill&#8221; when it&#8217;s just one poster, is the sort of liberal equivocation that passes for &#8220;conflict resolution&#8221; so that nothing is ever really resolved.  Not everyone is always equally wrong and illogical; taking a stand is sometimes the right thing to do.</p>
<p>Well, since you think this reply is worthy of &#8220;deletion&#8221; it proves the above point &#8212; but it really is surprising.</p>
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