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	<title>Comments on: David Nahai&#8217;s wild story about his water bills</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Harvey</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/city-government/2008/alan-mittelstaedt/water-king/comment-page-1/#comment-17420</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Harvey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for exposing another &quot;do as I say&quot; hypocrite. Nahai is a total fraud. He wants to exploit the rest of California for water and energy, when he can do the right thing by supporting safe, eco-friendly localized generation. All of these phonys need to be exposed for who they are. They want us to go without, but are unwilling to walk the same walk.

If LADWP had a genuine environmentalist for a G.M., it would already be surpassing the 20% renewables goal it has set for itself, through real rooftop solar incentives and not the half-hearted lip service designed only to make him look better than he is. Welcome back Mr. Mulholland!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for exposing another &#8220;do as I say&#8221; hypocrite. Nahai is a total fraud. He wants to exploit the rest of California for water and energy, when he can do the right thing by supporting safe, eco-friendly localized generation. All of these phonys need to be exposed for who they are. They want us to go without, but are unwilling to walk the same walk.</p>
<p>If LADWP had a genuine environmentalist for a G.M., it would already be surpassing the 20% renewables goal it has set for itself, through real rooftop solar incentives and not the half-hearted lip service designed only to make him look better than he is. Welcome back Mr. Mulholland!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeannine G</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/city-government/2008/alan-mittelstaedt/water-king/comment-page-1/#comment-17392</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeannine G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you done your Cobb salad? Can I have it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you done your Cobb salad? Can I have it?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 05:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You ought to ask for all of the Long Beach Water Department&#039;s executive management&#039;s personal water bills...I bet they&#039;re low...and that you would get them without any fuss.  That would be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You ought to ask for all of the Long Beach Water Department&#8217;s executive management&#8217;s personal water bills&#8230;I bet they&#8217;re low&#8230;and that you would get them without any fuss.  That would be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: anti</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/city-government/2008/alan-mittelstaedt/water-king/comment-page-1/#comment-17360</link>
		<dc:creator>anti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WBC, you are wrong.

First off: Any person has the right to knock on the door of any other person.

Second: Water King could have simply forked over the paperwork, thus preventing Alan to be required to pursue the matter further.

Alan was doing his job. For example if the wife of the water king would have called the cops on Alan, what would she tell them? that a man knocked on her door and asked her a question, and then went away? The cops would laugh.

Third, when you are a public official you are subjected to public scrutiny. That means you have to disclose certain things that would be private for any other citizen. If a person objects to being subjected to this, then they can choose to work elsewhere.

And woody, no that is stupid logic. If Obama took a private sector job, every American still has the right to criticize his wife. As we have the right to criticize anyone. Although if Obama was the general manager of a Starbucks instead of a presidential candidate its obvious that nobody would be interested enough to criticize her.

WBC pointed out that this man got the job about a year ago, and took a pay cut to take this job. He also took a cut in the level of privacy he ought to expect. 


Why not just disclose the documents when the reporter asked?
Why not work in the private sector if he wishes he records to stay private?

Now with all of this said, i don&#039;t believe that Alan truly thought that the wife would have the records he wanted. Maybe she would have a few of their water bills laying around, maybe not. I BELIEVE that he went there to send a message to the Water King. Sort of an F-U for not giving me the records i need to do my job. Like, i think Alan thought that when the Water King got home, he would be so angry that he would just hurry up and give the reporter what he wants to get him off his back. Too bad it didn&#039;t work out that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WBC, you are wrong.</p>
<p>First off: Any person has the right to knock on the door of any other person.</p>
<p>Second: Water King could have simply forked over the paperwork, thus preventing Alan to be required to pursue the matter further.</p>
<p>Alan was doing his job. For example if the wife of the water king would have called the cops on Alan, what would she tell them? that a man knocked on her door and asked her a question, and then went away? The cops would laugh.</p>
<p>Third, when you are a public official you are subjected to public scrutiny. That means you have to disclose certain things that would be private for any other citizen. If a person objects to being subjected to this, then they can choose to work elsewhere.</p>
<p>And woody, no that is stupid logic. If Obama took a private sector job, every American still has the right to criticize his wife. As we have the right to criticize anyone. Although if Obama was the general manager of a Starbucks instead of a presidential candidate its obvious that nobody would be interested enough to criticize her.</p>
<p>WBC pointed out that this man got the job about a year ago, and took a pay cut to take this job. He also took a cut in the level of privacy he ought to expect. </p>
<p>Why not just disclose the documents when the reporter asked?<br />
Why not work in the private sector if he wishes he records to stay private?</p>
<p>Now with all of this said, i don&#8217;t believe that Alan truly thought that the wife would have the records he wanted. Maybe she would have a few of their water bills laying around, maybe not. I BELIEVE that he went there to send a message to the Water King. Sort of an F-U for not giving me the records i need to do my job. Like, i think Alan thought that when the Water King got home, he would be so angry that he would just hurry up and give the reporter what he wants to get him off his back. Too bad it didn&#8217;t work out that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeannine G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeannine G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Cobb salad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Cobb salad.</p>
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		<title>By: WBC</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/city-government/2008/alan-mittelstaedt/water-king/comment-page-1/#comment-17249</link>
		<dc:creator>WBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 03:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pokey, so try showing up at Gore&#039;s house and harassing HIS wife Tipper.  First, you won&#039;t get near the massive gates, let alone the door -- if you snuck past, you&#039;d be arrested and there would be a major check on you to see if you were in the FBI/CIA/ Homeland Security database as a known terrorist or threat.  

GOOD LUCK, Pokey, pls. report back on your &quot;chasing down&quot; the Gores.  Alan&#039;s just lucky the Nahais haven&#039;t experienced this previously and didn&#039;t have their defenses up.  Next time. -- Guess jealousy of the rich and powerful gives people the thrill of the chase, cloaked under &quot;the public&#039;s right to know.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pokey, so try showing up at Gore&#8217;s house and harassing HIS wife Tipper.  First, you won&#8217;t get near the massive gates, let alone the door &#8212; if you snuck past, you&#8217;d be arrested and there would be a major check on you to see if you were in the FBI/CIA/ Homeland Security database as a known terrorist or threat.  </p>
<p>GOOD LUCK, Pokey, pls. report back on your &#8220;chasing down&#8221; the Gores.  Alan&#8217;s just lucky the Nahais haven&#8217;t experienced this previously and didn&#8217;t have their defenses up.  Next time. &#8212; Guess jealousy of the rich and powerful gives people the thrill of the chase, cloaked under &#8220;the public&#8217;s right to know.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Pokey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pokey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 02:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get personally irate at politicians or public officials who tell the public to do one thing, but do something entirely different in their personal lives.

Congratulations to Allen for chasing and his wife down.

&lt;i&gt;In the past year, Goreâ€™s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month.&lt;/i&gt;  

My home used only 10,225 kWh for a year.  -- Goreâ€™s house used 20 times what my home for the year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get personally irate at politicians or public officials who tell the public to do one thing, but do something entirely different in their personal lives.</p>
<p>Congratulations to Allen for chasing and his wife down.</p>
<p><i>In the past year, Goreâ€™s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month.</i>  </p>
<p>My home used only 10,225 kWh for a year.  &#8212; Goreâ€™s house used 20 times what my home for the year.</p>
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		<title>By: WBC</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/city-government/2008/alan-mittelstaedt/water-king/comment-page-1/#comment-17223</link>
		<dc:creator>WBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#9 creeps me out.  The sort of bitter person who believes any appointed or elected official is a &quot;public servant&quot; in the most literal sense, and enjoys the vicarious thrill of watching someone much wealthier and more powerful than them taunted and wants to force them to grovel for their approval -- the dark side of democracy.  Sharks circling in a tank, certainly not what you&#039;d want to invite for a swim in your private pool.  

Invariably, these people call themselves liberals and cloak their thirst for blood in the mantle of &quot;the people&#039;s right to know,&quot; especially posing as almighty &quot;journalists&quot; who have a self-appointed right to violate all bounds of privacy and decency in the interests of their &quot;higher calling.&quot;  

Guess what:  as anyone with a keyboard and a blog can claim equal status with a vetted writer for a major paper, the special status has disappeared, as well, unless you&#039;re Barbara Walters or Diane Sawyer with a film crew and an appointment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#9 creeps me out.  The sort of bitter person who believes any appointed or elected official is a &#8220;public servant&#8221; in the most literal sense, and enjoys the vicarious thrill of watching someone much wealthier and more powerful than them taunted and wants to force them to grovel for their approval &#8212; the dark side of democracy.  Sharks circling in a tank, certainly not what you&#8217;d want to invite for a swim in your private pool.  </p>
<p>Invariably, these people call themselves liberals and cloak their thirst for blood in the mantle of &#8220;the people&#8217;s right to know,&#8221; especially posing as almighty &#8220;journalists&#8221; who have a self-appointed right to violate all bounds of privacy and decency in the interests of their &#8220;higher calling.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Guess what:  as anyone with a keyboard and a blog can claim equal status with a vetted writer for a major paper, the special status has disappeared, as well, unless you&#8217;re Barbara Walters or Diane Sawyer with a film crew and an appointment.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/city-government/2008/alan-mittelstaedt/water-king/comment-page-1/#comment-17219</link>
		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Obama doesn&#039;t want people criticizing his wife, he should get a private-sector job.  See how this works?

I&#039;m all for Alan bringing light to this issue, but I would respect family boundaries.

Alan, don&#039;t go to Nahai&#039;s house for a swim.  We don&#039;t need any &quot;accidental&quot; drownings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Obama doesn&#8217;t want people criticizing his wife, he should get a private-sector job.  See how this works?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for Alan bringing light to this issue, but I would respect family boundaries.</p>
<p>Alan, don&#8217;t go to Nahai&#8217;s house for a swim.  We don&#8217;t need any &#8220;accidental&#8221; drownings.</p>
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		<title>By: I side with Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>I side with Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Public officials grow arrogant because not enough reporters ask the real, hard questions, like Alan has here. 

If the Water King was smart, he&#039;d invite Alan over for a swim, but his instinct is to turtle up and get all pissy. If he wants a private life, get a private-sector job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public officials grow arrogant because not enough reporters ask the real, hard questions, like Alan has here. </p>
<p>If the Water King was smart, he&#8217;d invite Alan over for a swim, but his instinct is to turtle up and get all pissy. If he wants a private life, get a private-sector job.</p>
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