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	<title>Comments on: DWP&#8217;s Water King: &#8220;You&#8217;re Harassing Me!&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Susie</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/city-government/2008/alan-mittelstaedt/nahai/comment-page-1/#comment-17743</link>
		<dc:creator>Susie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone ever thought about the effect of the plastic balls in the water? Recent research has shown that certain chemicals in plastic are bad for our health. They have suggested that plastic baby bottles are bad for babies because they release cancer causing chemicals. Plastic does break down, especially in the sun floating on water. Has there been any long term research on the decay of the balls and if chemicals are released into the water? My fear is that the balls may cause more harm than the alternative. 

Also, do the balls affect the plants or animals in and around the lake?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone ever thought about the effect of the plastic balls in the water? Recent research has shown that certain chemicals in plastic are bad for our health. They have suggested that plastic baby bottles are bad for babies because they release cancer causing chemicals. Plastic does break down, especially in the sun floating on water. Has there been any long term research on the decay of the balls and if chemicals are released into the water? My fear is that the balls may cause more harm than the alternative. </p>
<p>Also, do the balls affect the plants or animals in and around the lake?</p>
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		<title>By: WBC</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/city-government/2008/alan-mittelstaedt/nahai/comment-page-1/#comment-16942</link>
		<dc:creator>WBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Bode -- Christopher Goffard&#039;s article says, that after finding a spot on the freeway to view gridlock, &quot;We then tracked down as many drivers as we could -- running their plates through the Department of Motor Vehicles -- to find out what their stories might say...&quot;

So maybe it was just sloppy writing, because &quot;running through&quot; doesn&#039;t mean calling and getting a name.  &quot;What their stories might say&quot; is also awkward.  Maybe this is the result of Zell&#039;s brilliant new policy of axing experienced writers for cheaper inexperienced ones.

As for Montanez&#039; jobs, it&#039;s the DWP job (paying $12,500/ month or upto $150,000/yr) which is one day a week.  Guess the token job on the Unemployment Insurance Board (a traditional patronage position) is even better at one day a month for almost the same money.  So the woman works 5 days a week, for about $280,000/yr.  Why would anyone want to run for office or head a Dept., actually have to show up for work and take the crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Bode &#8212; Christopher Goffard&#8217;s article says, that after finding a spot on the freeway to view gridlock, &#8220;We then tracked down as many drivers as we could &#8212; running their plates through the Department of Motor Vehicles &#8212; to find out what their stories might say&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>So maybe it was just sloppy writing, because &#8220;running through&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean calling and getting a name.  &#8220;What their stories might say&#8221; is also awkward.  Maybe this is the result of Zell&#8217;s brilliant new policy of axing experienced writers for cheaper inexperienced ones.</p>
<p>As for Montanez&#8217; jobs, it&#8217;s the DWP job (paying $12,500/ month or upto $150,000/yr) which is one day a week.  Guess the token job on the Unemployment Insurance Board (a traditional patronage position) is even better at one day a month for almost the same money.  So the woman works 5 days a week, for about $280,000/yr.  Why would anyone want to run for office or head a Dept., actually have to show up for work and take the crap.</p>
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		<title>By: Bode</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/city-government/2008/alan-mittelstaedt/nahai/comment-page-1/#comment-16938</link>
		<dc:creator>Bode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case anyone is interested, the LA Times has a lengthy discussion on how they tracked down those drivers for their recent article:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/readers/2008/06/dmv-records.html

Short answer is, the DMV will give you a name if presented with a license plate number, and they looked up each name via directory assistance and other public records. They spent forty hours on the project, and got eight people to speak on the record.

Oh, and just for clarification, Montanez&#039; appointment to the unemployment appears insurance board is for one day of work a month, not one day of work a week. That&#039;s a nice job, even nicer than Nahai&#039;s!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case anyone is interested, the LA Times has a lengthy discussion on how they tracked down those drivers for their recent article:</p>
<p><a href="http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/readers/2008/06/dmv-records.html" rel="nofollow">http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/readers/2008/06/dmv-records.html</a></p>
<p>Short answer is, the DMV will give you a name if presented with a license plate number, and they looked up each name via directory assistance and other public records. They spent forty hours on the project, and got eight people to speak on the record.</p>
<p>Oh, and just for clarification, Montanez&#8217; appointment to the unemployment appears insurance board is for one day of work a month, not one day of work a week. That&#8217;s a nice job, even nicer than Nahai&#8217;s!</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/city-government/2008/alan-mittelstaedt/nahai/comment-page-1/#comment-16913</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This city has become so corrupt its pathetic.  Candidates can&#039;t even run anymore without the intrusion of the Mayor and all his croonies pulling out people and promising them other positions to get their people in.  Neighborhood Councils have become just as corrupt with council members having &quot;their&quot; people run to get on the boards and helping to campaign on our city dime.  LA has gone down the toliet and I agree with Alan that those records need to be posted for the taxpayers to see.  Its our money paying these fools their large salaries. Nahai has no experience to be in that position and his arrogant attitude needs to be put in check.  Go get him Alan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This city has become so corrupt its pathetic.  Candidates can&#8217;t even run anymore without the intrusion of the Mayor and all his croonies pulling out people and promising them other positions to get their people in.  Neighborhood Councils have become just as corrupt with council members having &#8220;their&#8221; people run to get on the boards and helping to campaign on our city dime.  LA has gone down the toliet and I agree with Alan that those records need to be posted for the taxpayers to see.  Its our money paying these fools their large salaries. Nahai has no experience to be in that position and his arrogant attitude needs to be put in check.  Go get him Alan.</p>
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		<title>By: Celeste Fremon</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/city-government/2008/alan-mittelstaedt/nahai/comment-page-1/#comment-16878</link>
		<dc:creator>Celeste Fremon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 02:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Janet, but it&#039;s not me.  It&#039;s my esteemed colleague, Alan Mittelstaed.  I&#039;m out of town.  So you&#039;ll be seeing a lot more great stuff from Alan up here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Janet, but it&#8217;s not me.  It&#8217;s my esteemed colleague, Alan Mittelstaed.  I&#8217;m out of town.  So you&#8217;ll be seeing a lot more great stuff from Alan up here.</p>
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		<title>By: WBC</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/city-government/2008/alan-mittelstaedt/nahai/comment-page-1/#comment-16875</link>
		<dc:creator>WBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 01:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judith and Member, it&#039;s natural for elected officials to want to protect their spouses and families from the kind of insults and crap they face regularly.  Even Obama was furious when some press criticized his wife, and that was for comments she made.  McCain seems to feel the same about his wife, and CNN has an online poll right now asking viewers if they feel  spouses are out of bounds.  Hillary and Bill were understandably upset when Chelsea was asked an intentionally upsetting question about her parents&#039; sex lives.  And these people were presidential candidates, whose spouses were apparently not subjected to this stuff even as Senators and Governors.

Nahai is new to this political game, and local bloggers get very personal and nasty, so I&#039;m a lot more sympathetic than some.  His personal water bill and habits, like Zine&#039;s and the rest, are arguably pertinent when these people are telling us to conserve, but I firmly feel family members and privacy of officials at this level are out of bounds.  I&#039;ll even argue that Nahai deserves his salary -- like the Times argued in an earlier editorial supporting Council salaries which are half his, these people take a lot of rude shit and the lawyers among them could be paid a lot more outside.  I&#039;ll agree with Janet that the dozens of managers making over $200,000 plus cars is way too high compared to elected officials who spend a fortune running for their jobs.  Although I&#039;d hate to see Celeste sink to posting those records &quot;for all to see,&quot; the deliberate embarrassing of public employees for prurient reasons.  That&#039;s for the lowbrow Daily News and gossip blogs.

Issues involving DWP are another matter, like Nahai&#039;s struggle against the powerful union head, his differences with volunteer Commission head and financial watchdog Nick Patsouris, or his agreeing to the patronage job of Cindy Montanez that&#039;s all the news -- how she got a $150,000/ one day a week gig with DWP, while she&#039;s allowed to keep another part-time Commission gig paying $130,000.  Patsouris argues that as our Sacramento lobbyist, seeing this as a p/t job shorts us of representation in getting our fair share.

All because she&#039;d agreed not to challenge Richard Alarcon for Council or Felipe Fuentes for Assembly (the seat Alarcon just vacated after barely swearing in), playing ball with the Padilla/ Alarcon/ Cardenas/ Nunez etc. Eastside Machine.  The same Felipe Fuentes who just pulled stealth bill AB212, designed to circumvent L A Councilmembers (especially Wendy Greuel) and communities opposed to mega-developments like Verdugo Hills and dense affordable housing schemes, after Greuel got wind of it and alerted her colleagues.  Other than the same Alarcon/ Cardenas and Reyes, that is, who&#039;d been secretly behind it and hoped Assembly would pass it before the City Council realized their powers over local development were stripped away.  Historically DWP&#039;s been used for patronage jobs, and I hope Patsouris makes headway in ending these salaries for part-time jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judith and Member, it&#8217;s natural for elected officials to want to protect their spouses and families from the kind of insults and crap they face regularly.  Even Obama was furious when some press criticized his wife, and that was for comments she made.  McCain seems to feel the same about his wife, and CNN has an online poll right now asking viewers if they feel  spouses are out of bounds.  Hillary and Bill were understandably upset when Chelsea was asked an intentionally upsetting question about her parents&#8217; sex lives.  And these people were presidential candidates, whose spouses were apparently not subjected to this stuff even as Senators and Governors.</p>
<p>Nahai is new to this political game, and local bloggers get very personal and nasty, so I&#8217;m a lot more sympathetic than some.  His personal water bill and habits, like Zine&#8217;s and the rest, are arguably pertinent when these people are telling us to conserve, but I firmly feel family members and privacy of officials at this level are out of bounds.  I&#8217;ll even argue that Nahai deserves his salary &#8212; like the Times argued in an earlier editorial supporting Council salaries which are half his, these people take a lot of rude shit and the lawyers among them could be paid a lot more outside.  I&#8217;ll agree with Janet that the dozens of managers making over $200,000 plus cars is way too high compared to elected officials who spend a fortune running for their jobs.  Although I&#8217;d hate to see Celeste sink to posting those records &#8220;for all to see,&#8221; the deliberate embarrassing of public employees for prurient reasons.  That&#8217;s for the lowbrow Daily News and gossip blogs.</p>
<p>Issues involving DWP are another matter, like Nahai&#8217;s struggle against the powerful union head, his differences with volunteer Commission head and financial watchdog Nick Patsouris, or his agreeing to the patronage job of Cindy Montanez that&#8217;s all the news &#8212; how she got a $150,000/ one day a week gig with DWP, while she&#8217;s allowed to keep another part-time Commission gig paying $130,000.  Patsouris argues that as our Sacramento lobbyist, seeing this as a p/t job shorts us of representation in getting our fair share.</p>
<p>All because she&#8217;d agreed not to challenge Richard Alarcon for Council or Felipe Fuentes for Assembly (the seat Alarcon just vacated after barely swearing in), playing ball with the Padilla/ Alarcon/ Cardenas/ Nunez etc. Eastside Machine.  The same Felipe Fuentes who just pulled stealth bill AB212, designed to circumvent L A Councilmembers (especially Wendy Greuel) and communities opposed to mega-developments like Verdugo Hills and dense affordable housing schemes, after Greuel got wind of it and alerted her colleagues.  Other than the same Alarcon/ Cardenas and Reyes, that is, who&#8217;d been secretly behind it and hoped Assembly would pass it before the City Council realized their powers over local development were stripped away.  Historically DWP&#8217;s been used for patronage jobs, and I hope Patsouris makes headway in ending these salaries for part-time jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 00:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YEAH!!!! FOR CELESTE.  THANKS FROM THE TAX PAYERS OF LOS ANGELES. THIS JERK MAKES OVER $300,000 AND KNOWS NOTHING. HIS TOP STAFF MAKE OVER $200,000 AND SOME AIDES MAKE OVER $100,000 YET THEY WANT TO RAISE OUR RATES.  GO GET HIM CELESTE AND PLS POST THOSE RECORDS FOR ALL TO SEE.  GOOD LUCK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YEAH!!!! FOR CELESTE.  THANKS FROM THE TAX PAYERS OF LOS ANGELES. THIS JERK MAKES OVER $300,000 AND KNOWS NOTHING. HIS TOP STAFF MAKE OVER $200,000 AND SOME AIDES MAKE OVER $100,000 YET THEY WANT TO RAISE OUR RATES.  GO GET HIM CELESTE AND PLS POST THOSE RECORDS FOR ALL TO SEE.  GOOD LUCK</p>
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		<title>By: Member of the Press</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/city-government/2008/alan-mittelstaedt/nahai/comment-page-1/#comment-16863</link>
		<dc:creator>Member of the Press</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nahai is such a goober. I&#039;m a member of the press, and several years back, when I wrote a blurb on some award he was getting by some organization, and I riffed a pun off of the title of Gina Nahai&#039;s first book as my hed, he got all upset. He wound up phoning my editor and whining about it after he saw it in print. Guess he couldn&#039;t take the reference to his then-more famous wife. A macho male ego thing and something cultural, I&#039;m guessing. That spoke worlds about him at the time. What a wuss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nahai is such a goober. I&#8217;m a member of the press, and several years back, when I wrote a blurb on some award he was getting by some organization, and I riffed a pun off of the title of Gina Nahai&#8217;s first book as my hed, he got all upset. He wound up phoning my editor and whining about it after he saw it in print. Guess he couldn&#8217;t take the reference to his then-more famous wife. A macho male ego thing and something cultural, I&#8217;m guessing. That spoke worlds about him at the time. What a wuss.</p>
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		<title>By: Judith Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judith Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t have to be a member of any anointed media outlet to file a public records act request, WBC. You only have to be a member of the public. Hence the word &quot;public&quot; in the title.

I&#039;ve admired Nahai&#039;s work in this city and he&#039;s always been a forthcoming source for me in the past. I&#039;ve learned a lot from him. But I think the DWP has secrecy embedded in its DNA. The people over there haven&#039;t responded to my PRA either, and it wasn&#039;t that complicated.

Hey Al, wanna go in on a lawyer? 

(You really should stay away from Nahai&#039;s house in the future, though. It&#039;s kind of creepy.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have to be a member of any anointed media outlet to file a public records act request, WBC. You only have to be a member of the public. Hence the word &#8220;public&#8221; in the title.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve admired Nahai&#8217;s work in this city and he&#8217;s always been a forthcoming source for me in the past. I&#8217;ve learned a lot from him. But I think the DWP has secrecy embedded in its DNA. The people over there haven&#8217;t responded to my PRA either, and it wasn&#8217;t that complicated.</p>
<p>Hey Al, wanna go in on a lawyer? </p>
<p>(You really should stay away from Nahai&#8217;s house in the future, though. It&#8217;s kind of creepy.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ruby Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruby Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, was a bit disturbed by the fact the LA Times was able to use the DMV database to track personal information from license plates. That just seems wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, was a bit disturbed by the fact the LA Times was able to use the DMV database to track personal information from license plates. That just seems wrong.</p>
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