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		<title>By: robato</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/city-government/2008/alan-mittelstaedt/my-wayward-servant/comment-page-1/#comment-17831</link>
		<dc:creator>robato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am happy to see the defense for Beth amounts to only a couple of people who are not very smart. It would bother me if the editors didn&#039;t bus chuck her, as it would indicate they are crooked, too.  WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am happy to see the defense for Beth amounts to only a couple of people who are not very smart. It would bother me if the editors didn&#8217;t bus chuck her, as it would indicate they are crooked, too.  WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?</p>
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		<title>By: flip</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/city-government/2008/alan-mittelstaedt/my-wayward-servant/comment-page-1/#comment-17830</link>
		<dc:creator>flip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flop, 

You&#039;re mixing things. Big AL called her a queen based on one incident. He does cite any other example on this blog. He does not mention the Pierce case. 

You are taking Big Al&#039;s example, and Jill&#039;s, to say that it makes a pattern (based on what I wrote.) 

I read Pelisek&#039;s and Barrett&#039;s piece, and I think it&#039;s fair to question Barrett, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s the same as Big Al&#039;s gripe. 

And I don&#039;t see Jill Stewart agreeing (or disagreeing) with Big Al&#039;s decision to crown Barrett the queen. (Maybe Big Al has a few more coronations up his sleeve.) 

But from what I&#039;ve read by Jill Stewart, and from what I used to hear on KPCC, she&#039;s not the shy and subtle type. So if she agreed with Big Al, she should have come out and said it - unless that was not her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flop, </p>
<p>You&#8217;re mixing things. Big AL called her a queen based on one incident. He does cite any other example on this blog. He does not mention the Pierce case. </p>
<p>You are taking Big Al&#8217;s example, and Jill&#8217;s, to say that it makes a pattern (based on what I wrote.) </p>
<p>I read Pelisek&#8217;s and Barrett&#8217;s piece, and I think it&#8217;s fair to question Barrett, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s the same as Big Al&#8217;s gripe. </p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t see Jill Stewart agreeing (or disagreeing) with Big Al&#8217;s decision to crown Barrett the queen. (Maybe Big Al has a few more coronations up his sleeve.) </p>
<p>But from what I&#8217;ve read by Jill Stewart, and from what I used to hear on KPCC, she&#8217;s not the shy and subtle type. So if she agreed with Big Al, she should have come out and said it &#8211; unless that was not her.</p>
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		<title>By: Flop</title>
		<link>http://witnessla.com/city-government/2008/alan-mittelstaedt/my-wayward-servant/comment-page-1/#comment-17826</link>
		<dc:creator>Flop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flip, the story referenced by Jill Stewart in Comment 1 above (LA Daily News Sucks Up to Tennie Pierce) also ran under Barrett&#039;s byline. 

Clicking on the link in Stewart&#039;s comment, you&#039;ll find the following analysis: &lt;i&gt;But Barrett&#039;s softball interview leaves out most of the key controversies swirling around Tennie Pierce, and some of those controversies helped discredit Pierce in the eyes of the public.&lt;/i&gt;

It may not be enough to declare a trend, but it&#039;s enough to meet your &quot;more than one example&quot; test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flip, the story referenced by Jill Stewart in Comment 1 above (LA Daily News Sucks Up to Tennie Pierce) also ran under Barrett&#8217;s byline. </p>
<p>Clicking on the link in Stewart&#8217;s comment, you&#8217;ll find the following analysis: <i>But Barrett&#8217;s softball interview leaves out most of the key controversies swirling around Tennie Pierce, and some of those controversies helped discredit Pierce in the eyes of the public.</i></p>
<p>It may not be enough to declare a trend, but it&#8217;s enough to meet your &#8220;more than one example&#8221; test.</p>
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		<title>By: flip</title>
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		<dc:creator>flip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before you bless someone with a name, I think it&#039;s only fair to have more than one example. I did a brief search on this web site, and I see Beth&#039;s name pops up twice - in this post and the other mentioned her getting the story about Tony V&#039;s lady on the side. 

So Big Al, if you&#039;re gonna proclaim Beth the queen for one apparent mistake, then god knows how much fucking royalty we have in the journalism world. 

It really looks lik Beth got hosed. Maybe she should have done a better job of handling it. Maybe HER EDITOR should have done a better job of handling it than suggesting/implying that Beth was wrong while beth is on vacation. That is bullshit. I guess when you become an editor, you leave your balls and spine at home. Why not say &quot;let me talk to beth so I can get her side of the story and I&#039;ll get back to you.&quot; In this day, it&#039;s not hard to track her down.  

And I do hope that before the DN wrote the editorial (which is fair) they checked in with Beth. I would hate to think there&#039;s more to the story than what&#039;s been mentioned here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before you bless someone with a name, I think it&#8217;s only fair to have more than one example. I did a brief search on this web site, and I see Beth&#8217;s name pops up twice &#8211; in this post and the other mentioned her getting the story about Tony V&#8217;s lady on the side. </p>
<p>So Big Al, if you&#8217;re gonna proclaim Beth the queen for one apparent mistake, then god knows how much fucking royalty we have in the journalism world. </p>
<p>It really looks lik Beth got hosed. Maybe she should have done a better job of handling it. Maybe HER EDITOR should have done a better job of handling it than suggesting/implying that Beth was wrong while beth is on vacation. That is bullshit. I guess when you become an editor, you leave your balls and spine at home. Why not say &#8220;let me talk to beth so I can get her side of the story and I&#8217;ll get back to you.&#8221; In this day, it&#8217;s not hard to track her down.  </p>
<p>And I do hope that before the DN wrote the editorial (which is fair) they checked in with Beth. I would hate to think there&#8217;s more to the story than what&#8217;s been mentioned here.</p>
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		<title>By: Newspeg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Newspeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Daily News editorial page acknowledges the spoon-feeding in an editorial today, and implies that either the reporter or the paper made a deal with Nahai to spin it positively for him and omit the relevant back story. 

From the the editorial: &lt;i&gt; Politicians, celebrities and other powerful people have been playing games like this ever since there was a press to play with. It&#039;s unfortunate, &lt;b&gt;and the public likely has little idea of the manipulation that goes on behind the scenes every day just to get public officials to grudgingly provide important information.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

Pathetic and amateurish if that&#039;s what they did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Daily News editorial page acknowledges the spoon-feeding in an editorial today, and implies that either the reporter or the paper made a deal with Nahai to spin it positively for him and omit the relevant back story. </p>
<p>From the the editorial: <i> Politicians, celebrities and other powerful people have been playing games like this ever since there was a press to play with. It&#8217;s unfortunate, <b>and the public likely has little idea of the manipulation that goes on behind the scenes every day just to get public officials to grudgingly provide important information.</b></i></p>
<p>Pathetic and amateurish if that&#8217;s what they did.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mariel:

The Nahai story wasn&#039;t journalism, it was a DWP press release with Beth&#039;s byline on it. And you don&#039;t do her any favors by admitting that she knew the back story and chose to leave it out. That makes her worse than a spoon-fed toady -- it makes her a hack. The bigger question now is whether her editors know, and left it out on purpose. Between this story and the Tennie Pierce puff piece, the Daily News under new leadership appears to be tacking on a feckless new course. Is that purposeful direction, or just the aimless wandering of a rudderless ship?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mariel:</p>
<p>The Nahai story wasn&#8217;t journalism, it was a DWP press release with Beth&#8217;s byline on it. And you don&#8217;t do her any favors by admitting that she knew the back story and chose to leave it out. That makes her worse than a spoon-fed toady &#8212; it makes her a hack. The bigger question now is whether her editors know, and left it out on purpose. Between this story and the Tennie Pierce puff piece, the Daily News under new leadership appears to be tacking on a feckless new course. Is that purposeful direction, or just the aimless wandering of a rudderless ship?</p>
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		<title>By: robato</title>
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		<dc:creator>robato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mariel, I think you are missing the point. If Beth knew she was benefiting from Alan&#039;s work and she made a deal with Nahai not to mention the back story then she is a dirty journalist. Sorry if she is your friend, but she messed up. She owes the Daily News readers an apology.  Alan did what he had to do to get the real truth out.  Beth allowed herself to be used like a tool.  Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mariel, I think you are missing the point. If Beth knew she was benefiting from Alan&#8217;s work and she made a deal with Nahai not to mention the back story then she is a dirty journalist. Sorry if she is your friend, but she messed up. She owes the Daily News readers an apology.  Alan did what he had to do to get the real truth out.  Beth allowed herself to be used like a tool.  Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: lilian</title>
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		<dc:creator>lilian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s wrong with being a toady?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s wrong with being a toady?</p>
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		<title>By: Mariel Garza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariel Garza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan,

I&#039;ve always respected your work, which is why I&#039;m disappointed by this juvenile attack on Beth. Yes, it&#039;s shitty that Nahai took his story to someone else to get back at you for annoying his sensibilities. But I know you know that this kind of thing happens all the time in journalism. And believe me it happened to Beth enough times after she filed public record requests with the city only to have the information leaked to the Times. It&#039;s the game, and calling Beth names is beneath you, particularly when she&#039;s away and can&#039;t defend herself. Besides, Beth would better be know as the Queen of Public Records because I don&#039;t know anyone who has filed more of them at City Hall. 

Also, she wasn&#039;t snookered. She knew she was benefiting from your spat with Nahai. Should she have reported that? Yeah, probably, if for no other reason than it makes a better story. Working journalists these days have to suffer enough unfair attacks by people not in the business, why must we savage each other?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always respected your work, which is why I&#8217;m disappointed by this juvenile attack on Beth. Yes, it&#8217;s shitty that Nahai took his story to someone else to get back at you for annoying his sensibilities. But I know you know that this kind of thing happens all the time in journalism. And believe me it happened to Beth enough times after she filed public record requests with the city only to have the information leaked to the Times. It&#8217;s the game, and calling Beth names is beneath you, particularly when she&#8217;s away and can&#8217;t defend herself. Besides, Beth would better be know as the Queen of Public Records because I don&#8217;t know anyone who has filed more of them at City Hall. </p>
<p>Also, she wasn&#8217;t snookered. She knew she was benefiting from your spat with Nahai. Should she have reported that? Yeah, probably, if for no other reason than it makes a better story. Working journalists these days have to suffer enough unfair attacks by people not in the business, why must we savage each other?</p>
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