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	<title>Comments on: Media Propaganda: L.A. CityBeat vs. L.A. Weekly*</title>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No rap bands?  Is Obama racist?</description>
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		<title>By: "reg"</title>
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		<dc:creator>"reg"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic, but here&#039;s a link to Bettye Lavette dueting with Jon Bon Jovi at the Lincoln Memorial event.  I knew Obama was pretty hip, but picking Bettye Lavette for this concert really impressed me.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r2vjPrky60

Also Pete Seeger got to sing the &quot;censored&quot; verse of &quot;This Land&quot; about the &quot;Private Property&quot; sign.  That should drive the nerds over at National Review Online completely nutz.  This concert event was awesome - great performances, choirs, military bands - something for everyone.  The &quot;Lincoln Portrait&quot; motif of reprising words of great Presidents and other historical figures was wonderful.  You can still see the whole thing on HBO-dot-com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic, but here&#8217;s a link to Bettye Lavette dueting with Jon Bon Jovi at the Lincoln Memorial event.  I knew Obama was pretty hip, but picking Bettye Lavette for this concert really impressed me.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r2vjPrky60" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r2vjPrky60</a></p>
<p>Also Pete Seeger got to sing the &#8220;censored&#8221; verse of &#8220;This Land&#8221; about the &#8220;Private Property&#8221; sign.  That should drive the nerds over at National Review Online completely nutz.  This concert event was awesome &#8211; great performances, choirs, military bands &#8211; something for everyone.  The &#8220;Lincoln Portrait&#8221; motif of reprising words of great Presidents and other historical figures was wonderful.  You can still see the whole thing on HBO-dot-com.</p>
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		<title>By: WBC</title>
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		<dc:creator>WBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 23:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waiting to hear from Celeste in the trenches of DC -- what&#039;s it like freezing out there with millions of hoi polloi, or did you get some invites to some receptions where you get to chase around a platter or two of mini-egg rolls and shrimp?  Do tell.

As for the battle of the weeklies, I don&#039;t agree with Marc Cooper on much, but he seems correct in his take on what Jill Stewart&#039;s done to the Weekly, dumping real investigative reporting for &quot;fast and dirty hit pieces&quot; on city hall, even using people with no reporting or writing skills whatsoever like homeless blogger/ public comment gadly zumadogg, who disrupts meetings and then &quot;writes&quot; an expose on land use issues and is featured, more recently, on its story about the demise of public access in L A.  (The result of state, not local, legislation, by the way.)

I will miss Steven Leigh Morris especially, who did recent, very solid stories (definitely not butt-kissing officials but sans the biased vitriol favored by Jill Stewart and her current faves) about the CRA etc.  And yes, also Andy Klein, who like Alan did his time at both papers and is one of the best.  Guess it&#039;s an unfortunate byproduct of the mushrooming of so many online reviewing sites that people don&#039;t think the opinions of people trained to think critically, and who bring a wealth of years of viewing and writing about movies (or theatre or books) to the table, really matter much more than the opinion of anyone with access to a keyboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waiting to hear from Celeste in the trenches of DC &#8212; what&#8217;s it like freezing out there with millions of hoi polloi, or did you get some invites to some receptions where you get to chase around a platter or two of mini-egg rolls and shrimp?  Do tell.</p>
<p>As for the battle of the weeklies, I don&#8217;t agree with Marc Cooper on much, but he seems correct in his take on what Jill Stewart&#8217;s done to the Weekly, dumping real investigative reporting for &#8220;fast and dirty hit pieces&#8221; on city hall, even using people with no reporting or writing skills whatsoever like homeless blogger/ public comment gadly zumadogg, who disrupts meetings and then &#8220;writes&#8221; an expose on land use issues and is featured, more recently, on its story about the demise of public access in L A.  (The result of state, not local, legislation, by the way.)</p>
<p>I will miss Steven Leigh Morris especially, who did recent, very solid stories (definitely not butt-kissing officials but sans the biased vitriol favored by Jill Stewart and her current faves) about the CRA etc.  And yes, also Andy Klein, who like Alan did his time at both papers and is one of the best.  Guess it&#8217;s an unfortunate byproduct of the mushrooming of so many online reviewing sites that people don&#8217;t think the opinions of people trained to think critically, and who bring a wealth of years of viewing and writing about movies (or theatre or books) to the table, really matter much more than the opinion of anyone with access to a keyboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebel Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebel Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go, go go!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go, go go!</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to liberals, we could eliminate major problems if we doubled taxes, despite majority votes not to do so and the fact that we have doubled taxes over and over in the past, with still no end for the liberal feel of entitlement for others&#039; money and their lack of accomplishments with it.  The problem isn&#039;t with how much money is available but with the stewardship of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to liberals, we could eliminate major problems if we doubled taxes, despite majority votes not to do so and the fact that we have doubled taxes over and over in the past, with still no end for the liberal feel of entitlement for others&#8217; money and their lack of accomplishments with it.  The problem isn&#8217;t with how much money is available but with the stewardship of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 08:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When do we begin, boss?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When do we begin, boss?</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 02:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If as goes California, so eventually goes everyone else, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-budget17-2009jan17,0,4472460.story&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; is not good news.

&lt;blockquote&gt;John Chiang announces that his office will suspend $3.7 billion in payments owed to Californians starting Feb. 1, as a result of the state&#039;s cash crisis. Student grants are also affected.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If as goes California, so eventually goes everyone else, <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-budget17-2009jan17,0,4472460.story" rel="nofollow">this</a> is not good news.</p>
<blockquote><p>John Chiang announces that his office will suspend $3.7 billion in payments owed to Californians starting Feb. 1, as a result of the state&#8217;s cash crisis. Student grants are also affected.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Isaac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isaac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Straight to the jugular, Alan. I&#039;m proud to see somebody get it right, that is, about an online local news source that sits on no one&#039;s lap and informs. Let me know if you get the formula right before I do. This is only the beginning. Peace. J.I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Straight to the jugular, Alan. I&#8217;m proud to see somebody get it right, that is, about an online local news source that sits on no one&#8217;s lap and informs. Let me know if you get the formula right before I do. This is only the beginning. Peace. J.I.</p>
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		<title>By: Listener</title>
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		<dc:creator>Listener</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the category you assigned to this post, Alan.  However, you need to clarify between &lt;i&gt;City Beat&lt;/i&gt; and the &lt;i&gt;Weekly&lt;/i&gt; which is the alligator and which is the bear.

Gotta say, if you figure out that model, you want to trademark it, patent it, register it, or do &lt;i&gt;something&lt;/i&gt; which would pay you royalties.  Lots of folks would like that model.  Advertising is one route, of course.  Although some of the advertising I encounter online makes my experience of the site less than appealing.

So far, I&#039;ve appreciated most those sites I want to visit frequently (at least once a day) offering me a variable subscription rate which will get me out of &quot;some&quot; advertising, or &quot;all&quot; advertising.  If the site is worth its salt, I pay the higher rate and opt for no advertising every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the category you assigned to this post, Alan.  However, you need to clarify between <i>City Beat</i> and the <i>Weekly</i> which is the alligator and which is the bear.</p>
<p>Gotta say, if you figure out that model, you want to trademark it, patent it, register it, or do <i>something</i> which would pay you royalties.  Lots of folks would like that model.  Advertising is one route, of course.  Although some of the advertising I encounter online makes my experience of the site less than appealing.</p>
<p>So far, I&#8217;ve appreciated most those sites I want to visit frequently (at least once a day) offering me a variable subscription rate which will get me out of &#8220;some&#8221; advertising, or &#8220;all&#8221; advertising.  If the site is worth its salt, I pay the higher rate and opt for no advertising every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A tear just trickled down my cheek imagining this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A tear just trickled down my cheek imagining this.</p>
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